The second iteration of 2v8 is now LIVE - find out more information here: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/480-2v8-developer-update

Let us not buy the new DLC - More info inside

Sleepy
Sleepy Member Posts: 107
in General Discussions

I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


This guy must be high.

So, since the devs clearly do not give one single ######### about our opinion, let's also not give a single ######### about their DLC.

Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

«134

Comments

  • Snapshot
    Snapshot Member Posts: 914

    1) If you don't like the new DLC, don't buy it. I have not bought a single DLC and have no plans for doing so in the future. It's ok to have a different opinion, just don't encourage others to not buy something because you don't see any value in doing so.
    2) What do you not understand when the Dev says they already tried it and it was too OP? You think you know better, when you didn't even do the same?
    3) The Spirit is mid to high-tier IF PLAYED RIGHT. This is the opinion of two very popular DBD YouTubers and I think so too. Her power pretty much is a mind-game and getting a hit depends on your skill in mindgames. The Spirit has a much higher skill cap than nurse in my opinion, that's why she will be hard to play in the first few weeks. So I agree with Janick on that after 2 hours it was nonsense from you to already have your opinion set.
    4) Keep in mind it is PTB and her variables are still subject to change. As is EVERYTHING new in the PTB.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    You can still buy the DLC, then make a review base on that to express your feelings

  • Shadoureon
    Shadoureon Member Posts: 493

    @Sleepy said:
    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Buy the DLC then complain as a customer its totally not how you expected it eventhough theres been a PTB for you to access and try out for free.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    you got to understand there will still be people buying the DLC, more than you lot

    hence you should buy the DLC, then make a review about it

    you not buying the DLC nothing will happen, people will always replace you

  • AmorePrincess
    AmorePrincess Member Posts: 220
    I already put money in my ps4 wallet, dlc cant come soon enough.

    I dont agree with everything the devs do, but it is my choice to love the game as it is. My life wont end over it, and if I need to start a riot, it will be over something far more meaningful than a game.
  • VESSEL
    VESSEL Member Posts: 1,068

    You understand that it's a ######### terrible situation to be in when You as a dev have an opinion and see other opinions as not knowing what they're talking about and you're expected to take these opinions and change the game to be better but sometimes the majority can be wrong as they only play one side of the game but then you try and figure if you're biased too but you definitely know better as you play both and ERGIBER GHTIEWUGIOVQEHRGIER3QUHGIOEGHQRIBHT

    tl:dr - I feel sorry for any Developer with an opinion right now

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

  • akbays35
    akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Devs are making content on a timely schedule, the are releasing patches on a regular basis and keeping their game fresh and entertaining and very cost effective. Issues pop up, but they are working on it.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    I like how you take the comments from the Dev out of context. They were made merely a few hours after the PTB went live. The time that is the most hectic because people have only had time to give their first impressions and not had a chance to try the Killer out properly.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    It is true that you can't master a killer within two hours but you can have an opinion as a veteran player whether a power is good or not. Also, for some reason, people including me was expecting a top tier killer and considering how difficult the new killer is, we can say that she is not going to be played in low ranks and if she is gonna be played at high ranks, she should be viable.

    I am sure you played the game a lot and know what killers need in order to be a top tier killer.
    1.Mobility
    2.Ending chases quickly
    3.Being able to slug and prolong the game

    Nurse and hillbilly have 3 of these while huntress have the last 2 of these.

    The new killer is more difficult to play than nurse but I don't think she has any of these.

    The mobility her power provides without addons is very limited. Not to mention if you use her power, you will be naked in chases with %110 movement speed for 20 secs which is %20-25 generator progression.

    Her power provides almost %50 chance for both sides. She doesn't have massive advantages when she is in the spirit world. Even though lets say that it allows her to end chases quickly, the clown can do that easily while wasting a lot of pallets and plus he is easy to use.

    Her power doesn't give people any kind of advantage to slug. If you can slug with her then you can slug with any other killer.

    I admit that some killers want easy and deadly killers but at this point saying that she is okay is just being dishonest. I have watched a lot of streamers and they always use purple green addons. Her base power is really really weak imo.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258
    edited September 2018

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

    Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.

    At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.

    Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Delfador said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    It is true that you can't master a killer within two hours but you can have an opinion as a veteran player whether a power is good or not. Also, for some reason, people including me was expecting a top tier killer and considering how difficult the new killer is, we can say that she is not going to be played in low ranks and if she is gonna be played at high ranks, she should be viable.

    I am sure you played the game a lot and know what killers need in order to be a top tier killer.
    1.Mobility
    2.Ending chases quickly
    3.Being able to slug and prolong the game

    Nurse and hillbilly have 3 of these while huntress have the last 2 of these.

    The new killer is more difficult to play than nurse but I don't think she has any of these.

    The mobility her power provides without addons is very limited. Not to mention if you use her power, you will be naked in chases with %110 movement speed for 20 secs which is %20-25 generator progression.

    Her power provides almost %50 chance for both sides. She doesn't have massive advantages when she is in the spirit world. Even though lets say that it allows her to end chases quickly, the clown can do that easily while wasting a lot of pallets and plus he is easy to use.

    Her power doesn't give people any kind of advantage to slug. If you can slug with her then you can slug with any other killer.

    I admit that some killers want easy and deadly killers but at this point saying that she is okay is just being dishonest. I have watched a lot of streamers and they always use purple green addons. Her base power is really really weak imo.

    Again, beta. This is time to suggest things, not make a list of your "I wants" for the killer. They've already said they're changing some things for her - so we can all stop whining and wait for those to be pushed and test her some more.

    This comes back to me "you're not always going to be good with every killer" - just because the vocal minority are terrible at playing her and come here wanting the instant 4Ks theres plenty of other people getting 4Ks with minimal effort.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Delfador said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    It is true that you can't master a killer within two hours but you can have an opinion as a veteran player whether a power is good or not. Also, for some reason, people including me was expecting a top tier killer and considering how difficult the new killer is, we can say that she is not going to be played in low ranks and if she is gonna be played at high ranks, she should be viable.

    I am sure you played the game a lot and know what killers need in order to be a top tier killer.
    1.Mobility
    2.Ending chases quickly
    3.Being able to slug and prolong the game

    Nurse and hillbilly have 3 of these while huntress have the last 2 of these.

    The new killer is more difficult to play than nurse but I don't think she has any of these.

    The mobility her power provides without addons is very limited. Not to mention if you use her power, you will be naked in chases with %110 movement speed for 20 secs which is %20-25 generator progression.

    Her power provides almost %50 chance for both sides. She doesn't have massive advantages when she is in the spirit world. Even though lets say that it allows her to end chases quickly, the clown can do that easily while wasting a lot of pallets and plus he is easy to use.

    Her power doesn't give people any kind of advantage to slug. If you can slug with her then you can slug with any other killer.

    I admit that some killers want easy and deadly killers but at this point saying that she is okay is just being dishonest. I have watched a lot of streamers and they always use purple green addons. Her base power is really really weak imo.

    Again, beta. This is time to suggest things, not make a list of your "I wants" for the killer. They've already said they're changing some things for her - so we can all stop whining and wait for those to be pushed and test her some more.

    This comes back to me "you're not always going to be good with every killer" - just because the vocal minority are terrible at playing her and come here wanting the instant 4Ks theres plenty of other people getting 4Ks with minimal effort.

    Go to this thread and scavange for SSs of me getting 4k with her constantly. The fact that I, or other experienced player can get 4k with her in the PTB WHEN SURVIVORS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY AGAINST HER, does not mean she is good. Survivors are already "evolving" their tactics agains her, and she becomes useless, as surv can just WALK AWAY UNNOTICED when you are trying to catch him on pallet spot. And using her power ONCE for 24s does not makes her any better. Her power has many drawbacks, and her power does not rewards them.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

    Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.

    At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.

    Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"

    I 4K constantly with the nurse and feel shes pretty overpowered. I play both sides, always have, always will. I have 2200 hours in the game and every achievement. I like to think, as someone who plays both sides, I'm very unbiased.

    What even is "strawboi argument". Nah, not really a whiner, I think both sides need to stop crying constantly and just get better at the game - like I said, people spend too much time on these forums hours at a time whinging and moaning instead of actually playing the game and getting better at it.

    I didn't twist an words - and I absolutely have the intention of learning how to play her because I thought she was fun with the time I had with her. I'm certainly not going to sit here and demand buffs that'll make her 4K every game like all those bad killers do when they fail to grasp her abilities unique traits and crumple under a 4man swf. lul.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Delfador said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    It is true that you can't master a killer within two hours but you can have an opinion as a veteran player whether a power is good or not. Also, for some reason, people including me was expecting a top tier killer and considering how difficult the new killer is, we can say that she is not going to be played in low ranks and if she is gonna be played at high ranks, she should be viable.

    I am sure you played the game a lot and know what killers need in order to be a top tier killer.
    1.Mobility
    2.Ending chases quickly
    3.Being able to slug and prolong the game

    Nurse and hillbilly have 3 of these while huntress have the last 2 of these.

    The new killer is more difficult to play than nurse but I don't think she has any of these.

    The mobility her power provides without addons is very limited. Not to mention if you use her power, you will be naked in chases with %110 movement speed for 20 secs which is %20-25 generator progression.

    Her power provides almost %50 chance for both sides. She doesn't have massive advantages when she is in the spirit world. Even though lets say that it allows her to end chases quickly, the clown can do that easily while wasting a lot of pallets and plus he is easy to use.

    Her power doesn't give people any kind of advantage to slug. If you can slug with her then you can slug with any other killer.

    I admit that some killers want easy and deadly killers but at this point saying that she is okay is just being dishonest. I have watched a lot of streamers and they always use purple green addons. Her base power is really really weak imo.

    Again, beta. This is time to suggest things, not make a list of your "I wants" for the killer. They've already said they're changing some things for her - so we can all stop whining and wait for those to be pushed and test her some more.

    This comes back to me "you're not always going to be good with every killer" - just because the vocal minority are terrible at playing her and come here wanting the instant 4Ks theres plenty of other people getting 4Ks with minimal effort.

    Go to this thread and scavange for SSs of me getting 4k with her constantly. The fact that I, or other experienced player can get 4k with her in the PTB WHEN SURVIVORS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY AGAINST HER, does not mean she is good. Survivors are already "evolving" their tactics agains her, and she becomes useless, as surv can just WALK AWAY UNNOTICED when you are trying to catch him on pallet spot. And using her power ONCE for 24s does not makes her any better. Her power has many drawbacks, and her power does not rewards them.

    Would you like me to hold your hand and help you get some kills? Maybe you're not as good as you think you should be? lol

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    Sleepy said:

    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    @Janick ..... there u go @Sleepy.....wanna talk crap about people, have the balls to tag them. 
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Delfador said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    It is true that you can't master a killer within two hours but you can have an opinion as a veteran player whether a power is good or not. Also, for some reason, people including me was expecting a top tier killer and considering how difficult the new killer is, we can say that she is not going to be played in low ranks and if she is gonna be played at high ranks, she should be viable.

    I am sure you played the game a lot and know what killers need in order to be a top tier killer.
    1.Mobility
    2.Ending chases quickly
    3.Being able to slug and prolong the game

    Nurse and hillbilly have 3 of these while huntress have the last 2 of these.

    The new killer is more difficult to play than nurse but I don't think she has any of these.

    The mobility her power provides without addons is very limited. Not to mention if you use her power, you will be naked in chases with %110 movement speed for 20 secs which is %20-25 generator progression.

    Her power provides almost %50 chance for both sides. She doesn't have massive advantages when she is in the spirit world. Even though lets say that it allows her to end chases quickly, the clown can do that easily while wasting a lot of pallets and plus he is easy to use.

    Her power doesn't give people any kind of advantage to slug. If you can slug with her then you can slug with any other killer.

    I admit that some killers want easy and deadly killers but at this point saying that she is okay is just being dishonest. I have watched a lot of streamers and they always use purple green addons. Her base power is really really weak imo.

    Again, beta. This is time to suggest things, not make a list of your "I wants" for the killer. They've already said they're changing some things for her - so we can all stop whining and wait for those to be pushed and test her some more.

    This comes back to me "you're not always going to be good with every killer" - just because the vocal minority are terrible at playing her and come here wanting the instant 4Ks theres plenty of other people getting 4Ks with minimal effort.

    Go to this thread and scavange for SSs of me getting 4k with her constantly. The fact that I, or other experienced player can get 4k with her in the PTB WHEN SURVIVORS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY AGAINST HER, does not mean she is good. Survivors are already "evolving" their tactics agains her, and she becomes useless, as surv can just WALK AWAY UNNOTICED when you are trying to catch him on pallet spot. And using her power ONCE for 24s does not makes her any better. Her power has many drawbacks, and her power does not rewards them.

    Would you like me to hold your hand and help you get some kills? Maybe you're not as good as you think you should be? lol

    I would say something unpleasant, or even #########, but I'm afraid, you could beat me with your experience in such behaviour, so I will pass, thanks.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526
    edited September 2018

    @RSB said:
    I would say something unpleasant, or even #########, but I'm afraid, you could beat me with your experience in such behaviour, so I will pass, thanks.

    It's a good thing words on the internet are just words on the internet and you can either ignore them or let them consume you. (hint, unpleasant things on the internet don't bother me because you know, just pixels)

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    I agree that the new killer is garbage and that people will stop playing her shortly after her release. I won´t buy the DLC but i´ll buy her with shards for the perks.
    But insulting the devs is a no go.
    If you are not happy, then just don´t buy the DLC.

  • Unknown
    Unknown
    This content has been removed.
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @brokedownpalace said:
    I keep seeing "I GUESS YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE BILLY NURSE AND HUNTRESS AT HIGH RANKS" and yet I see plenty of variety. I see plenty of Michaels, Hags, Trappers, and a decent amount of Clowns, Pigs, Doctors, and Wraiths. Oh and a good chunk of time these killers are 3 or 4king, at rank 1, against rank 1 survivors.

    If you seriously can't 3-4k in high ranks a decent amount with anyone but the top 3, then you are just bad at the other killers. No need to beat around the bush. 

    Who are you trying to fool? Wraiths, Trappers on high rank, sure, getting 4k. As if anybody saw a Clown after month after PTB lol

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    Ah now you admit it. It depends whether the survivors tryhard or not and this is exactly what I am talking about.
    WHen I start a game with a certain killer then I expect to stand a chance EVEN against tryharding survivor and that it isnt an auto loss no matter how hard I try or how good I am.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

    Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.

    At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.

    Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"

    I 4K constantly with the nurse and feel shes pretty overpowered. I play both sides, always have, always will. I have 2200 hours in the game and every achievement. I like to think, as someone who plays both sides, I'm very unbiased.

    What even is "strawboi argument". Nah, not really a whiner, I think both sides need to stop crying constantly and just get better at the game - like I said, people spend too much time on these forums hours at a time whinging and moaning instead of actually playing the game and getting better at it.

    I didn't twist an words - and I absolutely have the intention of learning how to play her because I thought she was fun with the time I had with her. I'm certainly not going to sit here and demand buffs that'll make her 4K every game like all those bad killers do when they fail to grasp her abilities unique traits and crumple under a 4man swf. lul.

    Aha so you have 2200 hours. Of course you will do very well against some 500 hour average survivors who made it to rank 1 because of the broken ranking system. Btw, I got rank 1 in my first month ranking up my survivor, I bet I wouldnt have stand a chance against your nurse but that doesnt mean that she is OP :wink:
    But once you verse a SWF of equal skill, things will look differently, we have seen that in the official tournament :wink:

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

    Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.

    At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.

    Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"

    I 4K constantly with the nurse and feel shes pretty overpowered. I play both sides, always have, always will. I have 2200 hours in the game and every achievement. I like to think, as someone who plays both sides, I'm very unbiased.

    What even is "strawboi argument". Nah, not really a whiner, I think both sides need to stop crying constantly and just get better at the game - like I said, people spend too much time on these forums hours at a time whinging and moaning instead of actually playing the game and getting better at it.

    I didn't twist an words - and I absolutely have the intention of learning how to play her because I thought she was fun with the time I had with her. I'm certainly not going to sit here and demand buffs that'll make her 4K every game like all those bad killers do when they fail to grasp her abilities unique traits and crumple under a 4man swf. lul.

    Aha so you have 2200 hours. Of course you will do very well against some 500 hour average survivors who made it to rank 1 because of the broken ranking system. Btw, I got rank 1 in my first month ranking up my survivor, I bet I wouldnt have stand a chance against your nurse but that doesnt mean that she is OP :wink:
    But once you verse a SWF of equal skill, things will look differently, we have seen that in the official tournament :wink:

    Well every survivor in rank one must be a 500 hour player that everyone can beat then, so why is everyone complaining killer is so hard when it's just noobs in rank one? Should be 4King every match... or killers that whine aren't as good as they think they are?

  • Unknown
    Unknown
    This content has been removed.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

    Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.

    At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.

    Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"

    I 4K constantly with the nurse and feel shes pretty overpowered. I play both sides, always have, always will. I have 2200 hours in the game and every achievement. I like to think, as someone who plays both sides, I'm very unbiased.

    What even is "strawboi argument". Nah, not really a whiner, I think both sides need to stop crying constantly and just get better at the game - like I said, people spend too much time on these forums hours at a time whinging and moaning instead of actually playing the game and getting better at it.

    I didn't twist an words - and I absolutely have the intention of learning how to play her because I thought she was fun with the time I had with her. I'm certainly not going to sit here and demand buffs that'll make her 4K every game like all those bad killers do when they fail to grasp her abilities unique traits and crumple under a 4man swf. lul.

    Aha so you have 2200 hours. Of course you will do very well against some 500 hour average survivors who made it to rank 1 because of the broken ranking system. Btw, I got rank 1 in my first month ranking up my survivor, I bet I wouldnt have stand a chance against your nurse but that doesnt mean that she is OP :wink:
    But once you verse a SWF of equal skill, things will look differently, we have seen that in the official tournament :wink:

    Well every survivor in rank one must be a 500 hour player that everyone can beat then, so why is everyone complaining killer is so hard when it's just noobs in rank one? Should be 4King every match... or killers that whine aren't as good as they think they are?

    A single game where you are bullied is enough to make playing killer a completely turn off.
    As I said, you depend on the survivors skill to win the game and that is ridiculous design.
    After being bullied by a SWF I usually take a break and think about what I could have done better.

    I have a nice comparison here. I started playing Dirt rally because DBD got so frustrating and I realized that dirt rally is even more frustrating. But the difference is, in dirt rally I know thats it my fault that I crashed into that tree. I can improve and next time I will crash into a wall 100 meter further on the track :wink:

    In DBD however, there are scenarios where you simply cant do anything (excluding nurse btw).
    This is the difference between a game that is just frustrating to play and a game that is frustrating to play in a good way, i.e. it gives you room to improve.

    The official tournament how reliant non-nurse killers are on survivors mistakes and that is indeed a problem in this game. Sure, in lower ranks and even at rank 1 (thx for meaningless matchmaking btw) you sometimes face survivors that have absolutely no clue about the game and you 4k.

    I even had a rank 1 survivor blaming me for speedhacking as wraith because I used windstorm addons he didnt even know about. This is how easy it is to reach the highest rank in DBD. (imagine reachign grand master in another competitive game, its a joke)

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    Given the amount of toxic ######### they take from entitled gamers every day, somebody is going to snap from time to time, so it will be forgiven from me.

    I'll likely buy it. I've gotten so many hours into the game I can justify the buy.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MinusTheBillie said:
     Sleepy said:

    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".

    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    I can encourage people not to stick it in your mom, because I vote she's a terrible lay... But my opinion doesn't matter and they're going to do her anyways, because it's fun. 

    If you don't want to buy it, don't, but I'm gonna screw your mo--.. ugh, I mean buy the new chapter .

    Insulting someone's mother just makes you look like a #########, 12 year old, just saying.

  • Sleepy
    Sleepy Member Posts: 107
    edited September 2018

    My take on this is that a lot of people will keep on supporting developers no matter how bad or good they are - Fine then, keep doing it, one day when something won't go your way you'll find yourself in a same position complaining, for the record, I have all DLCs even though I don't play most of the characters. Which means I've supported the devs enough and I won't be supporting them with "The First Cut" DLC.

    To the guy who tagged the dev, do you really think I'm afraid of something? If I "had no balls" as you claim I wouldn't have posted the pictures in the first place, this is an open forum where you don't need an "invitation" to view a post by tagging someone. Nice try, though!

    Special thanks to @RSB, @Master and everyone else who doesn't have their heads stuck up the dev's asses.

    If a dev can't handle criticism for something they made and label it as "insults" and cry about it, then maybe they shouldn't be a dev. Expect criticism when making something like this, and c'mon, was my post really "insulting"? If you find that insulting then maybe just maybe the internet is not for you.

    Also to the fella saying by me making this post I'm going to get banned - LOL, just LOL. If the devs will want to ban me because I made a thread against their DLC then so be it, it'll be a sad pathetic ban instead of making something good out of this situation by having an actual discussion with the members of the community who are unhappy with the state of this killer.

    Oh well.

    Happy weekend to you all.

    Edit: @MinusTheBillie - Good to know your parents dropped you on your head as a child.

    Edit 2: Fair enough, I can see how it can be insulting towards @Janick by saying "he must be high", my apologies for that!

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258
    edited September 2018

    @MinusTheBillie said:
    RSB said:

    @MinusTheBillie said: 

    I Can encourage people not to stick it in your mom, because I vote she's a terrible lay... But my opinion doesn't matter and they're going to do her anyways, because it's fun. 

    If you don't want to buy it, don't, but I'm gonna screw your mo--.. ugh, I mean buy the new chapter .

    Insulting someone's mother just makes you look like a #########, 12 year old, just saying.

    Just an analogy and some fun. For the record, not doing anyone's mom. ######### is also used in bad taste, but you don't see me fking your mom over it, do you?

    My mom is dead.

    //EDIT: Nope, she is alive. Just wanted to see how he behave, and he behaved like himself. Lowest of the lows.

  • MinusTheBillie
    MinusTheBillie Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2018
    RSB said:

    @MinusTheBillie said:
    RSB said:

    @MinusTheBillie said: 

    I Can encourage people not to stick it in your mom, because I vote she's a terrible lay... But my opinion doesn't matter and they're going to do her anyways, because it's fun. 

    If you don't want to buy it, don't, but I'm gonna screw your mo--.. ugh, I mean buy the new chapter .

    Insulting someone's mother just makes you look like a #########, 12 year old, just saying.

    Just an analogy and some fun. For the record, not doing anyone's mom. ######### is also used in bad taste, but you don't see me fking your mom over it, do you?

    My mom is dead.

    TMI. My nephew has down syndrome. You don't see me bitching about you calling me #########. 
  • MinusTheBillie
    MinusTheBillie Member Posts: 349
    Let's kiss and and make up.
  • Sleepy
    Sleepy Member Posts: 107

    @MinusTheBillie said:
    RSB said:

    @MinusTheBillie said:

    RSB said:

    @MinusTheBillie said: 

I Can encourage people not to stick it in your mom, because I vote she's a terrible lay... But my opinion doesn't matter and they're going to do her anyways, because it's fun. 

If you don't want to buy it, don't, but I'm gonna screw your mo--.. ugh, I mean buy the new chapter .



Insulting someone's mother just makes you look like a #########, 12 year old, just saying.

    Just an analogy and some fun. For the record, not doing anyone's mom. ######### is also used in bad taste, but you don't see me fking your mom over it, do you?

    My mom is dead.

    TMI. My nephew has down syndrome. You don't see me bitching about you calling me #########. 

    Kindly stop intoxicating my thread with your existance.

This discussion has been closed.