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Should nurse have a nerf?

Angelicus23
Angelicus23 Member Posts: 2,547
edited September 2018 in General Discussions
I have all killers, and with difference I think nurse is the most powerful. I started a match in rank 8 with her, and with almost 3 minutes of match, all survivors were down. I think she should have just one blink and after she has a long chase with a survivor or getting bloodlust, then gets the second blink.
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  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    Only her add ons.

  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462

    I'd concur with one of the users above and just remove extra blinks. No killers need nerfs, if anything I'd love to see a patch where every killer gets a buff to make them as useful as Billy/Nurse so people aren't funneled into playing those two killers.

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  • popoles
    popoles Member Posts: 831
    edited September 2018
    Why are some people so obsessed with 1 blink Nurse? Yes, I can hit them with only 1 blink, but it has to be a short distance. It's really hard to hit someone that is far away with 1 teleport.
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited September 2018

    If a killer is balanced without running any add-ons, then what happens when they do decide to use them?

    She obviously needs a nerf. And the majority of killers needs buff.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Sure but only once every other killer is viable or there is no meme pick killer
  • serabeth90
    serabeth90 Member Posts: 100

    Any game I play whenever discussing issues of balance, I feel like before nerfing any particular class, spec, whatever that seems OP, you should first bring anything that is underpowered up to speed, then watch and observe for a while, then carefully tune down or nerf one thing at a time that might be overpowered.

    In other words, buff the killers that need it before touching nurse. Also, look into the reasons for why nurse is overpowered -- because pallet looping is a huge part of the game, and she counters it. Either change the game or give other killers better ways to counter looping.

    I get what you're saying and I agree nurse is too strong compared to the other killers, but I think that's more because the other killers are too weak than that she is too strong.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    She has had nothing but nerfs let the poor girl live

  • shadowsfall42
    shadowsfall42 Member Posts: 201

    The only thing that should happen to her is to rework some of her addons. Specifically the ones that gives her more than 3 blinks. She should never have more than 3. But she needs 2 blinks base. The first to cover distance and the second to readjust. Third blink is training wheels then you once you get good with her you use other addons.

    The Nurse is the only killer that is only as good as the player. Her victory is completely on her own skill. Every other killer need to capitalize on survivor mistakes.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Master said:
    Take that logic and apply it to survivors who dont need items at all :wink:

    We're not talking about survivors in this thread now are we?

    Just Nurse last I checked.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    Master said:

    Yes, I just wanted to take the precious moment where a survivor realizes that the same logic he uses to get nurse nerfed actually applies to all survivors.

    Right, because only survivors agree that Nurse is too strong.

    Of course ;)
  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146

    The nurse needs no nerfs. She received plenty of nerfs since her introduction. Where she sits now is fine. The only nerfs i would ever consider for her is some of her addons. The 4 and 5 blink addons should be removed or reworked completely and her no down side 3 blink addon should be an ultra rare. With regards to her base form she is golden.

  • Killmaster
    Killmaster Member Posts: 429

    Only balanced nerf I would give her is to make her blind while she blinks, this way she cannot anticipate whether a survivor runs left or right around an object.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    Oh she definitely needs nerf.

    Some people can say that she is the only killer that can get 2 kills in competitive matches but those matches are being played without perks and addons. Survivor perks like selfcare, sprint burst, etc. are not powerful against her but bbq, nurse's calling etc. is really really good for her.

    She shouldn't have infinite amount of blinks I think. Survivors should be given a chance to go and hide after a nurse fck's up a couple of her blinks. Then, just like huntress or clown, she should need a little bit time to refill her power.

    Experienced and good nurses will still dominate but mediocre nurses will not be able to get 4k every game anymore.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Computer says no.

  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146

    @DocOctober said:
    The only nerf she needs is to cap blinks at 3 maximum. Bad Nurses need to git gud, not rely on a 4th or 5th Blink.

    Agreed 100% Good nurses do just fine with 2 blinks and the 3rd blink should be reserved as an ultra rare.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Nurse does need to be toned down a bit. It's one thing that her power helps her for chases and map pressure, it's another thing that she can entirely subvert core mechanics of the game (pallets/windows) and at the same time just ignore walls altogether. The Game is generally a good killer map, but against a good Nurse it just becomes an instant loss for survivors. The fact she can go up and down without using drop downs/stairs (which no other killer can do, bar the Hag but even she can't do it willingly) and go through the blocked doors (which again no other killer can do) makes it just impossible to get away from her. The fact she ignores basic map geometry is what makes her so strong. No other killer can just cut out a ton of time by phasing through a wall. I get she is hard to play but there comes a tipping point where the difficulty of using her is surpassed purely by her ability to just ignore everything in the game.

    I think that they should tweak the Nurse. I don't want her to be "nerfed" but she does need to abide by some of the same rules as normal killers, namely that she should have to respect map geometry and not just fly around at will. I'd suggest giving her 3 blinks BUT only allowing her to blink to a point that is in line of sight. Then she can't just ignore walls/floors and has to play the pallet/window game a bit more, but she'd still be quite powerful in a chase and would still be able to maintain high map pressure.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @DocOctober said:
    The only nerf she needs is to cap blinks at 3 maximum. Bad Nurses need to git gud, not rely on a 4th or 5th Blink.

    Agreed, I think she should have a 2 base blink and perhaps make the 3rd a Rare or Ultra Rare addon. A 4-5 blink Nurse in an experienced players hands is pretty much a down within 15 seconds or so. Most of the time that is and especially on any wide open map where you can't los juke her.

    By the time you prestige her you should have a pretty good idea of how to play her, especially if you play her a lot.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770
    edited September 2018

    @Mc_Harty said:
    Master said:

    Yes, I just wanted to take the precious moment where a survivor realizes that the same logic he uses to get nurse nerfed actually applies to all survivors.

    Right, because only survivors agree that Nurse is too strong.

    Of course ;)

    The only reason why nurse is powerful is because all survivors do is loop and in case you havent noticed she was made for countering looping. You cant call her too strong if you are doing what she was made to destroy you in.

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  • kimukipi
    kimukipi Member Posts: 137
    edited September 2018

    step 1 : killer profile pic
    step 2 : "PS; I play both survivor killer equally"
    step 3 : create BS killer nerf thread
    step 4 : profit?

    On a serious note, nurse as in her base kit is fine and balanced. Her add-on(s) need a rework tho. 2+ blinks shouldn't be in game or atleast not as common as it is today. Period.

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  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @DocOctober said:

    @Global said:

    @Mc_Harty said:
    Master said:

    Yes, I just wanted to take the precious moment where a survivor realizes that the same logic he uses to get nurse nerfed actually applies to all survivors.

    Right, because only survivors agree that Nurse is too strong.

    Of course ;)

    The only reason why nurse is powerful is because all survivors do is loop and in case you havent noticed she was made for countering looping. You cant call her too strong if you are doing what she was made to destroy you in.

    Looping wasn't a thing for several more months when the Nurse released, so that statement is inherently wrong.

    Infinites were a thing and infinites could be looped. git gud at the game and maybe she wont destroy you :)

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,913

    @Tsulan said:
    If survivors would use an equal amount of time to learn how to play against a nurse, as that nurse player did to master her. Then NO ONE would ask for a nerf.
    When i was learning nurse, survivors ran around me, clicking their flashlights and teabagging me. Telling me after the match, that i need to git gud. That i´m not on their skill level. That i´m a baby nurse.
    But when i do a 4k with her, she´s suddenly OP and needs a nerf.

    No one spends 200+ hours looking for pennies on the ground, because the floor tiles are so interesting. People spend so much time to master her, so they could finally beat survivors on high ranks.
    Git Gud? That´s exactly what people did.
    Don´t like it? Stop saying it then!

    Oh God...I’m still a baby Nurse with teabagging and flashlight clicking survivors. I’m getting a little better at the blinks but I play on PS4 and those blinks are brutal. The only time I like being Nurse is on The Game map. She needs NO nerf.

  • rokuassasain
    rokuassasain Member Posts: 3

    In my opinion I feel that her lunge should be smaller I get hit by her lunge and most of the time I disagree that it actually hit me other than that the nurse is skill I would just like to see a small lunge for better blink accurcy skill.

  • Frockz551
    Frockz551 Member Posts: 45

    Nice b8 m8 I r8 8/8

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,173
    Lol nah she has a high skill cap so good luck with the pro nurses
  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    @Global said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @Global said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @Global said:

    @Mc_Harty said:
    Master said:

    Yes, I just wanted to take the precious moment where a survivor realizes that the same logic he uses to get nurse nerfed actually applies to all survivors.

    Right, because only survivors agree that Nurse is too strong.

    Of course ;)

    The only reason why nurse is powerful is because all survivors do is loop and in case you havent noticed she was made for countering looping. You cant call her too strong if you are doing what she was made to destroy you in.

    Looping wasn't a thing for several more months when the Nurse released, so that statement is inherently wrong.

    Infinites were a thing and infinites could be looped. git gud at the game and maybe she wont destroy you :)

    Infinites and loops are inherently different, hence the different names.

    And fu too, I have no trouble facing Nurses.

    infinites waste the killers time and prevent them from hitting you...sounds the same to me

    thats nice you can play against her.

    Know what? Not gonna bother with you, just wasting my time.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @DocOctober said:

    @Global said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @Global said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @Global said:

    @Mc_Harty said:
    Master said:

    Yes, I just wanted to take the precious moment where a survivor realizes that the same logic he uses to get nurse nerfed actually applies to all survivors.

    Right, because only survivors agree that Nurse is too strong.

    Of course ;)

    The only reason why nurse is powerful is because all survivors do is loop and in case you havent noticed she was made for countering looping. You cant call her too strong if you are doing what she was made to destroy you in.

    Looping wasn't a thing for several more months when the Nurse released, so that statement is inherently wrong.

    Infinites were a thing and infinites could be looped. git gud at the game and maybe she wont destroy you :)

    Infinites and loops are inherently different, hence the different names.

    And fu too, I have no trouble facing Nurses.

    infinites waste the killers time and prevent them from hitting you...sounds the same to me

    thats nice you can play against her.

    Know what? Not gonna bother with you, just wasting my time.

    looks like someone couldnt find anything to counter what i said. To afraid to emit i was right huh?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Killmaster said:
    Only balanced nerf I would give her is to make her blind while she blinks, this way she cannot anticipate whether a survivor runs left or right around an object.

  • Star99er
    Star99er Member Posts: 1,457
    No but your opinion needs a nerf
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  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    I can see taking away the extra blinks. But until the looping game is put into balance, leave her alone.