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The weakest killer
What is the weakest killer in your opinion and why?
I personally think it's Deathslinger. Although he has little counterplay, whenever i play against him, I feel that he has little pressure on the map.
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I respect your opinion but Deathslinger is at least mid-high, in my opinion. Super strong 1v1.
For me the weakest is probably Pig, althought Legion and Wraith are not far away from her.
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Still clown. Has no map pressure.
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Pig is perhaps the weakest killer but that being said she is not bad just worse than the others
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Clown, even after his chase shutting buff he fails to apply pressure immensely.
Pig has the stealth factor at least to back her up, wraith has mobility with windstorm and a bit of stealth factor. And deathslinger as he said is mid-high once you become a good shot.
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Considering the two weakest killers recently have gotten buffed, this is genuinely a really good debatable topic.
If I had to choose, it would probably be Trapper, although with early game slowdown coming soon, that could also change.
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Without addons -> Clown
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Clown
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If you ask the head of the balance team he'll tell you clown is strong and people dont know how to use him. If you ask virtually every killer main in the game, they'll tell you clown is the weakest.
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It's a toss up between Clown and Legion for me.
Clown has no map pressure and Legion is just a basic M1 killer with no lethality.
Either way they both get destroyed by decent teams and each of them needs significant buffs.
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Objectively, it's Clown. Then probably Wraith.
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Hm, clown or trapper I would say
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The Clown is the worst.
Deathslinger is actually A tier, far from beeing a weak killer let alone the worst killer in the game.
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Pig has to use perks to even benefit from her stealth. Otherwise, you are crouching around wasting a ton of time. Her traps can be total RNG, sometimes with 2-3 people getting them off on the first or second try.
She needs 2 add-ons to really be able to her dash effectively, which means you are using stock bear traps which usually have minimal effect on the game.
At least clown is a monster if you get caught between tiles or don't have too much to work with. If he struggles in a pallet town, pig would be massacred at the same area because she is almost pure M1 at all but the shortest loops.
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If we're talking addonless, it is definitely Wraith.
With add ons, I think it is Clown. There's a lot of killers who also who do the whole "Good in chase, bad map pressure" schtick and do it better than Clown.
Despite me liking them a lot, Legion is also kinda bad. Good Survivors won't let him get much out of his power... but they win out vs Clown because at least he doesn't have 3-4 other killers who do their thing better than them. If you're looking for a Killer who's GOTTA GO FAST! while stabbing all the things, Legion is your only option. That and them being great for farming Emblems and BP gives them way more play time than their raw strength probably should.
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Clown. No map pressure, no chase pressure, no lethality. Somehow, to this day, remains the only m1 killer with a chasing power. No killer even comes close to that level of bad, even Legion has good points and perk synergy.
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Honestly, i'd actually go with Plague. Don't get me wrong, she is a strong killer, but her momentum potential is very temperamental. Not to mention her Purge is very 'hit or miss', literally, due to it being such a slow projectile as well as the hit boxes being highly suspect.
I don't think it's easy to outright call who the weakest killer is now. It was clearly Bubba before, but now he's a monster, I do think it falls on a killer like Plague due to her unreliability.
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I would rather say legion,because his power doesn't help him at downing survivors at all
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Legion. It takes so much to do stuff with little effects afterward. You still can achieve a lot with his power and get the full team injured but you will most likely have this chance only if survivors aren't playing spread out. His power is overall really situational, doesn't help on chases, and is pretty much counter-productive most of the time.
I would have said Clown, but his buff is quite enough to at least catch up to survivors in chases now. His power is more consistant than Legion's power now in my opinion, but he is still probably the second weakest killer.
Also I really disagree with people saying it's the Pig, she has a huge pressure with her reverse bear traps and her dash attack is effective on a lot of situations.
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Pig can be played effectively without crouching all the time. You can just use crouch to deny loops. Yes traps are RNG but they do still stall the game. On a very very rare occasion does people get traps off on first try.
Using something like timer + sketch has very little benefit compared to running syringe + straps or in my opinion the best combo tape + straps. So stock traps are much better than trying to hope RNG god is in your favor.
With that said, I'd say Clown is the worst killer.
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Legion
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Are we talking with or without add-ons? Because Wraith with add-ons is easily mid-tier and possibly low high-tier (he can add nearly any kind of utility to his power).
Without add-ons, it's Clown. His base power isn't very strong on its own and he has almost no inherent utility. He has anti-loop/loop shortening and some extremely slight tracking through the screams of people in the gas. The only killer who arguably had less base utility than Clown was Leatherface (only a mediocre insta-down and pallet breaker), and he finally got a rework.
If add-ons are taken into account, probably Pig. She has an okay set of add-ons (with a couple really interesting ones thrown in), but her Reverse Bear Traps are very RNG dependent (making her stall/pressure power situationally worthless or oppressive) and Ambush isn't very effective outside of relatively short loops. Her stealth is decent, but generally weaker than that of Wraith or Ghost Face (though she can exit and re-enter it faster than them). This isn't to say that Pig is a horrible killer, but rather that she requires both more effort and more luck to play well than pretty much anyone else.
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I know the stats don’t reflect it but I would say Pig.
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Wraith, Trapper, or Pig. They're all pretty outdated.
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Trapper is rendered useless by.. pretty much everything now. Oh....
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What stats ? I hope you don't meant that 2 weeks sample was it, stats that people used as justification on their "this killer is OP" opinions.
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THERES ONLY 1 KILLER RIGHT NOW and that´s the Clown. The other Killers are fine atm.
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Don´t hate for this, the wraith.
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I would say either Clown or Pig.
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Without add-ons and perks, it has to be clown. There have been good points about other killers above, but clown is extremely weak and his power does not compare to the other killers. While he can slow survivors down and cause them not to see clearly for a tiny bit, good survivors can still work around this. His power does not guarantee a hit. Does it help... yes. Is it the best mechanic... no.
I know that other people are saying legion and I agree with the limitations Legion has. However, Legion's power is way more versatile then clown. It is a tracking, speed, and forced healing power all in one. Is it lethal... no. Does it stall the game and give the killer options... yes.
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Sorry, till someone proves otherwise with tutorials/videos (😉) I can only go by my own experience 🤷♂️
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People saying Legion and Wraith need to get good lmao
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LeatherFace used to be my answer had you asked me before the latest update. However, now, I think deathslinger is the weakest. He has zero map pressure even if you try your best. However, if good at sniping with the hook, one can end games pretty quickly.
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Clown or Pyramid Head. PH has an ez dodge power with a gimmick, and Clown has just really underwhelming anti-loop.
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If you are playing pig without her stealth, she is a pure M1 killer; with a tiny bit of slowdown and anti-loop built in. That's literally as bad as it can get in this game. Good survivors just run off the tile if you try to use ambush at loops, and unless you have combat straps you can't fake it.
"Very very rare" first attempt removal is 25% of the time.
Timer + sketch or timer + gears turns the traps into RNG mori's. And you may as well use that, because it's about all pig is good for.
It's sad that the most famous pig in the game uses monitor + whispers just to get stealth hits sometimes. Think that someone like wraith get's consistent stealth hits with no perks needed, can use those two perk slots for like pop + sloppy instead, and also gets to run around at potentially up to ~170% movespeed speed with double windstorm (a bit of a waste, but it's possible). Meanwhile pig is instead of going at 90% speed while simultaneously having her vision obstructed to boot.
At least clown forces pallet drops very, very quickly if he closes the gap on you and is good with the bottles.
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Nurse technically. Without putting skill into evaluation, she is the easiest killer to loop and mind game and actually provides weakest map pressure. Sure she can teleport around quickly, but thing is, precisely due to being the slowest killer and being easily escaped from, she cannot quickly down survivors and move onto another gen quickly.
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Seeing a lot of people say that Pig is a weak killer. While she is certainly not top tier in terms of killers, her power without add ons and perks is not the worse and has much utility.
Her crouching gives you stealth and undetectable status, This allows you to get close to other and get hits and downs without alerting them.
In her crouch she has ambush which a good pig can use to close distance and shut down loops better than clown. You potentially even get some pallet drops here and there.
If you are evaluating her RBT by how effective they are in killing people, then they are not. I get a couple every now and then. However, evaluating it as a stall mechanic it is pretty good. You have one person who is trying to get it off their head, they are out of the game at the moment. Down someone else and then they are out of the game at the moment. This requires someone else to come and unhook which takes them out of the game too. That leaves 1 person doing gens.
With the bear traps, you also know that there are 4 places a survivor is heading, which you can patrol when patrolling generators.
At its best, it is an anti-looping, stall, detection, stealth, and killing power.
There are some obvious work around to it, but even if the trap comes off fast, you still stalled the game.
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The stats, developer forum posts, and devs on stream have all said she is doing really well statistically.
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No...?
Nurse's power ignores pallets, windows, even walls and gives her some pretty nice map mobility. That saves her so much time compared to most other killers. Because of that Nurse is theoretically the strongest killer in the game. In practice maybe not because she's really hard to play, but the potential is 100% there.
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He is only good in chases, but in pressure he is weak. In matches he can barely manage to do 1k or 2k.
Why would a low pressure killer be at such a high tier?
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Thank you 👏
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He is excellent in a chase and therefore his pressure is also good. There is no better way to create pressure like downing and hooking people. But you are right, his mobility is low so he is not that good in forcing survivors off gens. Still, a killer that can kill people in seconds? Cant be that bad, right?
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Clown, hes okay in a chase but others do it better, he also has nothing out of chase.
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That's why I said Clown is the worst Killer. Yeah he's good in chase, but new Bubba, PH, Slinger, and Huntress all arguably do the whole no mobility but strong chase thing better than he does.
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Yeah, perhaps the devs should consider giving him a secondary ability.
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Clown isint it for sure, his ability to quickly end chases is pretty good. He's by no means top tier but I'm consistently playing him since the mini buff and the games are going better than ever. Always liked him, but barely played him. He's not the worst, but probably the most boring killer.
It's hard to say, all killers feel somewhat solid right now. I'd have to say Wraith, but that's because he's pretty addon dependent. Trapper possibly if you count for the fact that survivors could just end up avoiding every trap; addon dependent as well because 1 trap at base is garbage.
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