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We Need More Killers Like Billy and Nurse

NMCKE
NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
edited September 2018 in General Discussions
As the title says, more strong killers would be nice. I never seen killers like the nurse that strikes the fear of God on survivors! Now, I'm not asking for another nurse but maybe a Billy level killer, where survivors actually have to work together and a single survivor can't 1 versus 1 a killer. After, isn't this a asymmetrical horror game where teamwork is needed to overwhelm the killer? Not just a single survivor being half decent?
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  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457
    I would like to see a mad scientist killer.who is good with technology. Goes around the map placing a device. And survivors who moves in this area moves super slow. And the killer had a increase in speed. (Maybe I should create a character and put this in fan creation lol) 

    Anywho yes more strong killers, it starting to get boring as survivor. It is already bad enough that Xbox does not have too many games that I can enjoy at the moment. 
  • sergantuss
    sergantuss Member Posts: 43

    they just need to buff the old ones rly hard
    cuz even super tryhard nurse loos 3-4 gens and most of the time loos all 5 gens
    survivors hate her cuz they wana win the game without die but let be honest 90% of the players who loos to nurse still have safepip
    the longer game have a safepip is totaly fine to buff killers(on TTS first for sure) to be super powerfull
    and all what ne to be done for nurse to make her balanced its just place a reload for her blinks(like a power for spirit)
    so if she used her TP and hit you(or missed) she will need some time before do 1 TP and more time to do 2
    so it will like a sniper shot with long reload
    its kinda easy to do and she still will be strong

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    we don't need strong killers. we already have enough we just need good players
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Global said:

    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

    I actually love playing against the nurse because stealth is my number one thing when I play as a survivor! I actually stream snipe nurses so I can have an actual challenge when I play survivor! :)
  • IronWolf115
    IronWolf115 Member Posts: 672
    edited September 2018

    I think part of the problem with may killers is that the devs are kind of afraid to have a killer commit to their desired playstyle.

    What I mean by that is like for example, the whole point of the Wraith is to sneak up on survivors, uncloak and get the surprise attack. But he doesn't do that very well because he take forever to uncloak and it is still pretty easy to see him even when he is invisible.

    Leatherface is another example, DESIGNED to be a close range punisher but fails in almost every way because he is clunky and slow, so most people just resort to camping with him.

    Definitely buff old killers a lot and then create new, powerful killers.

    Good post @Nickenzie

    P.S Forgot to say lol, my point about Wraith, Leatherface etc is that they are very stubborn about buffing them to any high lengths which is why I say they are afraid to commit.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Global said:
    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

    We dont need killers stronger than nurse, we need killers at the nurse-level. Sadly the devs explained that its intentional that they produce killers that are not viable at all ranks

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Master said:

    @Global said:
    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

    We dont need killers stronger than nurse, we need killers at the nurse-level. Sadly the devs explained that its intentional that they produce killers that are not viable at all ranks

    No, we don´t need killers at nurse level, but more killers like Billy.
    Nurse has a absurd steep learning curve. People shouldn´t spend 200+ hours to master her.
    Billy is just fine, he has a nice learning curve.

  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    The Nurse is strong because she ignores basic mechanics of the game.

    It's not the Killers, it's the mechanics.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Global said:
    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

    We dont need killers stronger than nurse, we need killers at the nurse-level. Sadly the devs explained that its intentional that they produce killers that are not viable at all ranks

    No, we don´t need killers at nurse level, but more killers like Billy.
    Nurse has a absurd steep learning curve. People shouldn´t spend 200+ hours to master her.
    Billy is just fine, he has a nice learning curve.

    I love killers where your skill is rewarded. Feels kinda cheesy when you reached the skillcap after 50 hours and are dependent on survivor mistakes now....

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Global said:
    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

    We dont need killers stronger than nurse, we need killers at the nurse-level. Sadly the devs explained that its intentional that they produce killers that are not viable at all ranks

    No, we don´t need killers at nurse level, but more killers like Billy.
    Nurse has a absurd steep learning curve. People shouldn´t spend 200+ hours to master her.
    Billy is just fine, he has a nice learning curve.

    I love killers where your skill is rewarded. Feels kinda cheesy when you reached the skillcap after 50 hours and are dependent on survivor mistakes now....

    But learning the nurse feels masochistic...

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Global said:
    Yea it would be nice but how much stronger can you get than nurse? She is amazing to play as if you know how to play as her and ######### to play against. There isnt much better xD

    We dont need killers stronger than nurse, we need killers at the nurse-level. Sadly the devs explained that its intentional that they produce killers that are not viable at all ranks

    No, we don´t need killers at nurse level, but more killers like Billy.
    Nurse has a absurd steep learning curve. People shouldn´t spend 200+ hours to master her.
    Billy is just fine, he has a nice learning curve.

    I love killers where your skill is rewarded. Feels kinda cheesy when you reached the skillcap after 50 hours and are dependent on survivor mistakes now....

    But learning the nurse feels masochistic...

    I know, I never liked the self stun and im still waiting for a nurse-comparable killer that I can enjoy such that I can start playing competitively =(

  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    @Master said:

    @Brady said:
    The Nurse is strong because she ignores basic mechanics of the game.

    It's not the Killers, it's the mechanics.

    You mean because you cant run circles against her?
    Sad that this has become a "mechanic" :wink:

    Loops are broken and everybody knows that

  • laKUKA
    laKUKA Member Posts: 406

    i just only play nurse...if i choose other killer...they bullying me... this is so sad.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    laKUKA said:

    i just only play nurse...if i choose other killer...they bullying me... this is so sad.

    You shouldn't have to play nurse just to have a chance against survivors. In my opinion, most killers should be Billy's level.
  • deadbydaylightfan
    deadbydaylightfan Member Posts: 262
    Nickenzie said:
    As the title says, more strong killers would be nice. I never seen killers like the nurse that strikes the fear of God on survivors! Now, I'm not asking for another nurse but maybe a Billy level killer, where survivors actually have to work together and a single survivor can't 1 versus 1 a killer. After, isn't this a asymmetrical horror game where teamwork is needed to overwhelm the killer? Not just a single survivor being half decent?
    I agree with your opinion on killer hoping spirit is good but whenever survivors do work together like swf people get triggered because they either lose to them or meet a toxic bunch and moan that it’s op so idk 
  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    @SovererignKing said:
    Brady said:

    The Nurse is strong because she ignores basic mechanics of the game.

    It's not the Killers, it's the mechanics.

    She doesn’t ignore any other mechanic other than Looping. Survivors just don’t bother to use Pallets and Windows in unconventional ways. They don’t want to fake window vaults. They don’t want to fake Pallet Drops, run through, double back, drop it, slide if necessary. 

    Saying Nurse ignores mechanics is just a lie. You just have to use them completely differently than you usually do. 

    I'm not complaining about the nerfs. Quite frankly I find the Nurse easy to go against. But yeah, Killers would be fine if there weren't broken loops. I'm not wrong.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Dudddd said:
    We need more better players instead of cry babies also
    Lol, nice one, I'll write that one down on my salty survivor quotes! However seriously, a survivor shouldn't be able to 1 versus 1 a killer, like NEVER! Now 4 survivors should be able to 1 versus 1 a killer if they have great teamwork but currently that's not the case and that won't be for awhile sadly.
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  • CornChip
    CornChip Member Posts: 540

    What infinite loops? where can you run a killer for infinity?

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    I play both and tbh the most fun I have is against billy nurse and hag because they male me work for it in one game (minus a instant dc from a survivor) I got 2-3 gens done alone after 2 slugs and hooks and 2 bleeding out moments before I finally got killed and afterwards I congratulated the killer on catching me with a GG and you finally got me and they admitted they got a got scared at how fast I was doing gens when i told them who I was it was a great game against a good billy who didn't just insta down people nut chased them properly (sorry just felt like sharing a good game against a high tier killer)
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Nickenzie said:
    laKUKA said:

    i just only play nurse...if i choose other killer...they bullying me... this is so sad.

    You shouldn't have to play nurse just to have a chance against survivors. In my opinion, most killers should be Billy's level.

    Nurse is the only killer that reaches the 2 kill average in an competitive setting.
    The devs consider a 2k average balanced

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    Frankly, I think it would be better if they fixed the core game in such a way that all the weaker killers were viable, then all you'd need to do is dial back the few top killers.

    It's getting there....

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    they just need to buff the old ones rly hard
    cuz even super tryhard nurse loos 3-4 gens and most of the time loos all 5 gens
    survivors hate her cuz they wana win the game without die but let be honest 90% of the players who loos to nurse still have safepip
    the longer game have a safepip is totaly fine to buff killers(on TTS first for sure) to be super powerfull
    and all what ne to be done for nurse to make her balanced its just place a reload for her blinks(like a power for spirit)
    so if she used her TP and hit you(or missed) she will need some time before do 1 TP and more time to do 2
    so it will like a sniper shot with long reload
    its kinda easy to do and she still will be strong

    If anything like what you stated for the nerf to nurse were to happen... .1 a lot of people would be pissed because .2 she would be next to not viable -----> shes the slowest base movement speed at 96% this is slower then survivors which requires her to use her power in order to catch them... now really good nurses may seem unfair but this is only because survivors lost their way of stealth because looping is meta and everyone wants to do it.. if they would just stealth theyd be fine  
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    CornChip said:

    What infinite loops? where can you run a killer for infinity?

    There is only one infinite in the game, that's Solo Survivor and Object of Obsession. These perks, if used correctly, can prevent the killer from ever finding the survivor and thus, prevent the killer from catching you.
  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467
    I would freaking love it if Doctor was buffed to Billy’s level. 
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    I would freaking love it if Doctor was buffed to Billy’s level. 
    @SnakeSound222 Oh yes! That would be awesome to see more killers at higher ranks! Hey send me your ideas of buffing the Doctor in my profile wall!
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  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Mycroft said:
    I love how they spent the whole stream today talking about how Spirit looks. Nothing on how effective she's supposed to be or what's unique about her in this everlasting NASCAR insta heal meta that's gone on since 2016.

    Everybody knows why.

  • swenpai
    swenpai Member Posts: 259
    edited September 2018

    @RSB said:

    @Mycroft said:
    I love how they spent the whole stream today talking about how Spirit looks. Nothing on how effective she's supposed to be or what's unique about her in this everlasting NASCAR insta heal meta that's gone on since 2016.

    Everybody knows why.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @swenpai said:

    @RSB said:

    @Mycroft said:
    I love how they spent the whole stream today talking about how Spirit looks. Nothing on how effective she's supposed to be or what's unique about her in this everlasting NASCAR insta heal meta that's gone on since 2016.

    Everybody knows why.

    No, Ron

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    More killers like Billy and Nurse?

    xD That's a laugh

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  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    More killers like Billy and Nurse?

    xD That's a laugh

    I should probably put that on the wishlist discussions because after all, it's probably not gonna happen! :(