Do you commit suicide if your team lets you hit struggle state?
Im just curious as to what other players think about this topic.
I see this happening alot as well as it happens to me alot. You get hooked and see that no one is coming to get you, you wave your arms frantically in the air trying to get someones attention but no one comes and you hit struggle phase.
Do you just give up and go to the next game?
For me i just let go if i hit struggle. I feel like if my team doesnt care enough to come grab me off hook before struggle then im out.
Now this is assuming your not playing a killer whos camping, or like your team is trying to bust out last gen while your on hook.
Im talking about Like you see one team mate looping the killer across the map and you see your other 2 team mates just doing gens or doing nothing ect and theres still multiple gens left.
For me when i play i prioritize my team mates over the gens. For me DBD isnt about just rushing gens and then escaping to save my own ass. For me the main objective is to try and make sure all my other team mates escape, so me personally i never let my team hit struggle state cause as a rank 1 survivor i know how important that extra hook state is.
To me getting a gen done isnt worth letting one of my team mates losing a whole hook state only to be tunneled soon as we do save them and then their out of the game.
Now its a 3v1 and the game is dramatically harder for us to escape.
So just wondering what everybody's thoughts are on this.
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yes, sometimes
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Care to explain why you let go?
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I always run Kindred, so yes. If three survivors can’t figure out how to coordinate a save with wallhacks handed to them, then I’m not surviving that match anyway.
The exception is if I’m being camped, in which case I’ll make the killer waste as much time camping me as possible.
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Sorry for not explaining. Garbage teammates
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Well I use Kindred so sometimes. It depends though. If they're all working on gens then no. If they're all crouching around the map and looking through chests then I probably will yeah.
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sometimes, depended on how many points I had and how many cakes were used to determine whether a struggle would have beenw orth my time. now that I hardly see even a single cake any more (which isn't enough if I'm first down since I know I'll be tunneled and won't be getting wglf stacks most likely more than maybe 1) and the mmr update is all over the place I'll probably just not struggle and will jump straight into a match where I could do something more fun than sit on a hook or hurt my wrist more than chaturbate. I would also get a chance to get off to a better start and get a lot more bloodpoints, as well as hopefully not go up in mmr too quickly to the point where every single match is sweaty af and teammates are toxic.
It just seems the logical choice to either first hook suicide if killed right away by an unlucky spawn and map, or to not struggle on second hook if it seems I'm being tunneled or the team is a 3 man swf that couldn't care less about me. And unlike a dc, you still get your bloodpoints so long as they're enough to encourage doing it on the hook though if I have few points and it looks like I'll be slugged until I've bleed out most of my slug meter I'll probably just dc since it'll be less boring and I shouldn't need to do that often enough to get a ban.
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Depends on what those auras are doing. Being chased and everyone getting hurt? Showing at least some attempt at trying to help? Nah, I’ll hang on. Starting gens, searching chests, and otherwise crouching around the edge? Cya!
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Depends, if they are unable to get the save because camping, or proxy camping, or finishing thet last gen or some other valid reason I dont.
If they ignore me on the hook then I let go, they are not interested on saving me? im not interested on helping them escape.
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When I’m stuck with illiterate individuals as teammates you bet your butt cheeks I’ll do it.
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If I get put into struggle, but my team was finishing gens and then coming for the rescue. I'm usually fine with it.
What really gets me is when my teammates aren't currently doing anything and I'm just sitting on the hook with no rescue underway.
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If I got to second stage 'cause three of them were crouching in the other side of the map or two were doing it while one is being chased, YES.
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Yes. I literally would rather get farmed than struggle on first hook.
The only exception I make is if it's the end of the game and the killer is face camping me OR if it's a camping Bubba who will just down both of us.
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Trash team mates, hello Entity, hello next game. If I'm being camped and my team is actively on gens, I'll tap it out for their benefit. If they are all just standing there waiting for an opportunity to hook save with me being 100% camped, I'm not gonna wear out my spacebar for that.
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Depends on what I see them doing. For instance, if all three are doing gens? No.
If two are doing gens and one being chased? No.
Is one doing a gen, one crouching on the other side of the map, and one popping in and out of a locker? You better believe it.
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the locker made me lol
I stopped mid struggle the other night because of somebody doing that
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To me, like many others, it all depends on several factors.
Sometimes i run kindred, sometimes i don´t. If i don´t, i don´t know if someone is coming to save you, so i stay on my gen, since there is plenty of time. And thus, i don´t expect you to come if you have no information.
Second, if the killer is camping, well, i hold on, even if they dont come for me. Because i occupy the killer, he looses big, and if that happens often enough, camping won´t work anymore, so many killer will go after other people instead of camping.
Otherwise, i had games where i was hooked, one was on a gen (i was fine with him) one was crouching around, doing totems (that one i would expect to come for me, instead of doing bones and let me die), while the last one was in the basement running in circles the whole time, doing nothing.(i think no comment is needed here). Yes, i let go then. Because the game would go nowhere anyway.
I also hooksuicide, but its always about crappy teammates. Bodyblocking (purposly, accidents happen), running the killler to you again and again (while you are injured and they are not, and they know you are there because of aftercare)fastvaulting to get the killer to get you of the hex totem so he can get the points for it, throwing a pallet in your face while you shield them from the killer because they are injured, stuff like that.
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Yes, if i get chased for 5 minutes and i then see the auras of my teammates crouching and doing jack #########, then i hook suicide, waiting in queues is a better use of my time
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If my team is all sitting on gens instead of trying to save, then yes. Otherwise, sometimes the way the killer plays can force an awkward save or positioning that I understand, especially if the killer is proxying or camping and you don't have BT. Sometimes someone without BT won't save you because they might be afraid you'll see them as farming you and the killer will actually hit you.
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If it's early game and they let me hit second stage knowing the killer isnt there and they aren't being chased either (I use kindred), I do suicide.
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If I am on a hook and it's obvious the killer is nowhere near me (you can see the aura a long way away) and no one bothers to come unhook me before I reach second stage there is a chance I will die on the hook. Even then it depends. If it's late in the match and there is only a 1 generator left or something I may hang on realizing my chances of escape are greatly increased. If it's early in the match though and the other survivors are willing to let me reach second stage when they could have safely unhooked me then I will likely just die and move on.
The way I have always looked at that situation is this:
The objective of this game as a survivor is to escape. By removing another survivor from a hook during first phase if it presents no risk to do so you are buying the whole team more time. The more time each survivor has the more likely the objectives get done and you escape. If my team doesn't remove me in that situation it likely means one of two things:
1) They lack the ability to play strategically.
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2) Escape is not their primary objective
If it's #1 the chances of escape are slim as you have a team that isn't playing in a manner that maximizes that possibility.
If it's #2 my absence isn't going to matter as escape wasn't their objective anyway
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Sometimes, depends on situation.
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