Have you had someone be terribly offended you don't respect their style of play
I was talking to an acquaintance yesterday that also loves this game. When he plays killer he exclusively uses Myers and his strategy is to slug from the start. He tends to slug one person, stay somewhere close, and slug other survivors as they come to help. He doesn't hang anyone until he has all 4 survivors slugged unless it gets down to 1 gen.
He told me he didn't understand why he gets so many hateful messages after games saying he's a trash killer when he's using a legit strategy and really good at killer. He asked me if I thought playing that way made him a trash killer. I gave him my honest opinion.
I told him since he is playing within the rules of the game I don't think it makes him a trash killer, and he has every right to play that way. However, I also told him that I think he gets called that for 2 reasons.
- That style of play doesn't take a lot of skill because he basically just downs one survivor and then waits for the rest to come throw themselves at his feet.
- It's kind of a jerk way to play
He was offended at both statements. He told me I simply couldn't understand since I'm a survivor main.
Maybe he has a point. I'm curious to get some opinions from those that play killer. Remember I am not debating whether or not it's a legit strategy. I want to know if others that play killer see his strategy as taking much skill, and is not at least a bit of a jerk strategy?
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I think as Meyers is it ok, since he is not a strong killer anways (not like spirit or so).
Still I can also understand the survivors. While they are slugged, they can not much do, besides watching an YouTube video or so.
I would not do it, but I understand why some killers tend to do it.
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I’m a Killer main and your opinion seemed legit. It is completely an allowable play style and also the easiest way the killer can win. Nor is it an enjoyable experience for the survivors. If he enjoys doing it, then he should continue to do so but it’s ridiculous to be expected to be respected or praised for such a lackluster play style.
We all feel differently about the different styles, going both ways. I particularly hate sabo squads.
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So a person who plays nurse or spirit
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I don't slug as much as that, although I rarely play Myers because he's bad (I have a lot of cakes left on him though and dailies sometimes too). But really it's BHVR that incentivizes people play a certain way.
There is simply not enough time to be getting 12 hook sacrifices without slugging, you will lose and probably not get any kills at all, this is what leads to "tunneling" most of the time - it's desperation or time constraints. Add to that things like DS and Adrenaline with the bullshit Hatch Mechanic and you have no choice.
When there are 2 people left you are 100% forced to slug or you are 97% guaranteed to lose because the second you put one on the hook if the other guy is up he's going to get that hatch. Chances are he already knows where it is and you don't. Killers don't have time to scour the map looking for a hatch but survivors do and even have perks and consumables for doing it.
Left someone slugged while the 2nd to last guy died on hook? Go back to find that slug and he's gone? Now it's a race to the hatch again because for some reason he can use it while down.
If you find it first, don't close it though because there's a very good chance he has Adrenaline and will free-up and get away. All of these scenarios are things I've seen first hand, some of them within the last 24 hours even.
Survivors have far too many second chances and easy outs compared to killers. Your friend doesn't get as many points for slugging as hooking but I completely understand why he does it.
I hope he doesn't use Totems, though, or he's in for a world of soul-guard hurt. UB and its prevalence means all 4 of those are very likely going to get up at least once but that's less than the hooks it requires.
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I am not implying at all that slugging is bad, or there aren't legitimate reasons to do it. I don't even think the guy I am talking about is wrong for using it as his whole strategy. My question is more about whether or not it's actually skillful.
He literally slugs someone and stands close. When another survivor comes to help that person he slugs them. Unfortunately most survivors seem to be more than happy to come sacrifice themselves when another survivor is slugged. He does this until he has all 4 slugged, and doesn't even attempt to hang anyone until then. This is his strategy every single game from the start. I don't see it as requiring nearly the level of skill as a killer that doesn't make slugging their whole strategy.
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I'm guessing this is low rank. As far as skill, not really, it revolves around altruism of survivors for each other. It takes 4 minutes for someone to bleed to death, that's a long time, 3 other survivors x 80 seconds each could do 3 gens separately before they even go near the slug and they'd still have plenty of life left.
Also if they have soul-guard, totems or not, they get the BT Endurance effect when healed making it much easier for them to get away, and the guy going for the save could take a protection hit. I honestly don't see this working unless it's all solo-queue and they're all bad. Like, this doesn't take in to account baits, flash lights, ######### no one uses like Diversion, For the People, etc.
But, I'm red ranks, and the concept of abusing altruisim works. Basement Hag is my current favorite, although I still love Trapper. These aren't perfect and coordinated SWFs can and will still ######### all over you, but randoms? It eats them alive and makes for some excellent Benny Hill episodes.
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played with a streamer yesterday.
when i went to his channel afterwards and rewatched the game it became very obvious that, in his eyes, i was a "disgusting sweaty tryhard" for not letting him and his 3 man SWF win (which is ridiculous, considering its perfectly fine if they play to win, however when i do it its suddenly a bad thing. Quote (in a sarcastic tone): "on no it would be a shame if he were to lose his rank 1..." implying that i should depip and let them win, for literally no reason at all other than him not enjoying losing)
the level of entitlement he showed was quite astounding, ngl.
funnily enough though i legitimately went out of my way to go as easy as i could on them - no camps, no tunneling, wasted tone of time in earlygame with someone i tried my hardest to snipe as PH even though Discordance screamed at me they were doing gens, and yet all i got was salt.
like, i ignored multiple people who i just had hooked just to not tunnel them - no comment on that.
i return to an unhook, follow a random scratchmark trail and happen to find the guy i hooked previously - suddenly im a hardcore tunneler who hates fun.
dunno if that story made much sense, but i feel like it can kinda fit the topic? after all he very openly disrespected my playstyle and got quite, i dont wanna say offended, but annoyed at me for it.
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Survivor or killer if you choose to play the game in a way that is considered "toxic" by most you have to be able to take the hate you get for it.
That being said everyone is free to play however they choose to play
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This sums up what I think.
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I totally agree, and told him as much. I just didn't agree that it was a style that required a whole lot of skill.
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The thing is just because it is ok to you, doesn't mean others will see it that way.
With that being said play how you want, but either have your chat box turned off or be prepared for some criticism.
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There is nothing wrong with that strategy but it doesn't take a lot of skill or planning or prediction to use guess you could call it "slug camping"
The point here is the loaded question. Your friend likely didn't want an honest opinion, they wanted you to agree that they were good and that anyone who sent them a nasty message as a result of how they play was in the wrong somehow.
When you didn't do that... they, rather than look at how someone else may have a different opinion of that playstyle, instead just dismissed your view with the "you don't understand" motif.
How viable Myers is etc etc are all irrelevant points, play the way you want to play but don't be surprised if some people find a style of play annoying and have a go at you for it.
Also echo chamber people often make for tedious friends, as usually they have their one view and dismiss all others making any real discussion impossible. Find better friends.
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I'm not sure what rank he is. We work together and sometimes talk DBD over lunch since we both play. I've never played against him unless it's been recently as we play on different platforms. All the things you mentioned.... he hates them and thinks they should all be done away with. Anything that is detrimental to his slugging strategy is unfair in his eyes.
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I completely agree with you. This guy is someone I work with. We just happened to discover we both play DBD and sometimes discuss it over lunch. Outside of work we don't see each other, and I'm perfectly content to keep it that way.
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I like to focus on people with TV or TTV in their name. You want attention? You got it. They usually have a an army of simps with them too, making them all the more repugnant and toxic to deal with. Nothing makes me switch my cake/BP offering to a mori faster.
BONUS: Here's one from a month ago from my scrap book. I don't really remember this guy other than the name was funny.
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Sometimes I use a slugging perk combo (Knockout, Deerstalker, Infectious Fright) on Spirit/Huntress/Nurse and never hook a survivor until I have all 4 in the ground. I don't see any problem on that. Slugging is very risky for the killer and slugging survivors is not a trivial thing to pull off and most of the time not achievable unless they make plenty of mistakes.
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Had a streamer message me before a match several months ago. Told me he was a streamer and told me he needed me not to do any totems as he was doing a video about NOED. I do mean instructed. He didn't ask. I immediately equipped small game and detectives hunch. His video on NOED didn't go as planned.
After the match he saw that I had both of those equipped and messaged to tell me I messed up his stream. I told him next time he should try asking people to participate instead of telling them what he "needs" them to do.
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It's not being a jerk, survivors might not like it but he just found a strategy he is comfortable with and has the right to use it, especially if he does it without malice. It's also not true that it doesn't take skill, slugging so early in the match is an all-or-nothing strategy, with a high risk of backfiring.
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LOL, can't say I blame you.
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