Buff Demogorgon
As you can tell by the title, I believe demoboy should be reworked or revisited. First off as a stranger things fan he’s extremely fun to play as but I feel like his add-ons and perks need to be reworked. Half of his add-ons are for his portal effects such as traversing faster, undetectable status effect longer, and the amount of time it takes to seal a portal. However, his best add-ons (IMO) are his brown add-one that effect his shred ability which is his most powerful ability in a 1V1 chase. To start, he should have a longer undetectable status for his base kit when emerging from a portal, the reason for this is because he’s also very loud if he’s close by while undetectable. 2nd, his portals should take longer to close at base kit because even with add-ons to prevent it from being sealed quicker it actually gets closed super quick. I don’t wanna make this to long of a post but just please help him out.
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Idk, the Killer itself is fine. it's only his add-ons that needed to be retouched.
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Agreed, our boy needs some TLC.
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My opinion:
-Make his footsteps and other noises quieter, he is loud as heck currently which makes running a stealth portal attack build on him largely ineffective since survivors can still hear him even though he has the undetectable status effect.
-Increase base undetectable effect when emerging from a portal from 2 seconds to 2.5 seconds
-Make the effects of Rat Liver (reduced slow down while preparing a shred attack) part of his base kit and change the effect of Rat Liver to something new.
-Increase the base portal destruction time from 12 seconds to 16 seconds.
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I'd say Demos a pretty strong killer. 2 problems for me.
His noises are incredibly loud especially when playing him. Ambushing with the portal is useless due to how loud the local noises he makes are. This is the main reason I dislike playing him. Can't hear ######### captain.
Also I think the global teleport soundeffect is unnecessary.
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Demo is one of the weakest killers in the game and i dont really understand why because on paper he has so much going for him. I kind of look at him as a jack of all trades master of none
But like @gibblywibblywoo said i think making him less loud would be a start, or maybe keep him loud but give him more offensive power. Maybe make it so add ons can let you switch between the two style but he has to be able to take after one. At least he's more to play than Clown
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I feel like Demo is only a decent and consistent killer if you're running STBFL, feels mandatory on him.
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I feel like most of my hits come from his shred. Though despite its insane travel speed I do get juked out of it quite often.
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Ok hear me out, makes his 2 red addons base kit, The demogorgon in ST is very stealthy and is attracted to blood so why no of this is base kit is beyond me
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Trappers mostly guess based system, and the fact that a single player seeing him lay his traps from behind a rock decimates him completely, AND the fact that set-up killers are weaker than ever right now. Means he'll probably suck forever.
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"demo is one of the weakest killers" doesnt mean demo is #########. Also by that logic, every killer is amazing because as you said he requires a lot of time to learn (Adapt Demo btw). so there is no weakest killer ig?
Also you said you liked someones ideas for changes so.......what are you even getting mad at me for lol. Im not personally attacking your or even demo just that he needs to be buffed which you apparently agree with!
How do you fix that though, unlike Demo, Clown, and Legion there isn't a clear path because his problem isn't with his power but with SWF. I think everyone agrees the killer should get some kind of buff against SWF but it still wouldn't help Trapper. He was made when SWF wasn't a thing so i think his flaw might be unfixable, instead of catching people by survive his traps basically now restricted to closing of loops and pathways which isn't useless but you know. It is what it is I just want him to have a mori where he smashes someone's head into one of his bear traps
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I don't really know. Trapper is just outdated. That's all there is to it. He's a relic of old dbd with its super long gens and ruin. Other killers have similar powers that are much more flexible, fun and just better.
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Yeah he’s unplayable on Lery’s on Xbox. 10FPS
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He's pretty underrated tbh. He has the best synergy with Save the Best for Last. His shred is a great zoning tool and can cut down many loops if used properly, not to mention he has mapwide pressure with his portals. His basekit looks fine, but his addons could use a revisit.
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They just need to take a look at his sound design and addons really. Rat Liver is his only addon worth running with both of his iridescent addons just straight up garbage. He only gets like what, 3 addons that have anything to do with his shred while everything else is with his portals. And his sound needs overhauls, I get the idea that BHVR wanted to give solo survivors more information in regards to what he's doing but you can literally hear demogoron break pallets across the map. That's just taking it too far really. I know there's this crusade going on right about how there's killer with too little counterplay but demogorgon has way, way too much. He's the most telegraphed killer in the game and it really hurts him.
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his addons need looking into since the only ones worth using are the ones that affect shred and the rat tail to speed up portal placement. The best buff would be to make rat liver base kit since good demos usually use it anyway. shred btw is actually a great chase tool and i really hope that they leave it alone for the most part and demo's who say shred sucks or is meh they suck at demo especially if they are missing most of their shreds.
edit: another really good buff would to be to fix his loud ass footsteps and maybe getting ride of the map wide sound when he uses the portals.
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Other than rat liver base kit his main issues are his portals and the fact that he gives too much information to survivors. His Undetectable is near pointless because he's so loud and tells the survivors he's using it.
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Yeah his add ons are doo doo. It’s sad that his most powerful add ons are all common ones.
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I used to think Mindbreaker was a terrible perk until I experimented with exhaustion builds, and it’s actually not too bad when you consider it pauses any existing exhaustion timers on the survivor.
It’s not a great perk by any means, but it’s actually ok when you catch survivors out that have already used their Sprint Burst previously that hasn’t even remotely recovered.
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Pretty much exactly what I was gonna say.
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Quite simple.
He must obey pallets
His portals can be removed
Survivors control his power.
No add-ons that do anything.
He wastes too much time in set up and must walk to a portal to use a portal.
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He needs add-on tweaks and that's it. Also imo he doesn't *need* rat liver or stbfl to be good in a chase. I usually go addonless with Demo, and I try and refrain from using stbfl because it makes me want to not use his power in a chase as much. But nah, his sounds are fine, his power is great. Still the best-designed killer they've ever made and I have a feeling the Blight is gonna finally be another good killer release.
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-Increase the Undetectable duration when leaving a portal to 3 seconds
-Increase portal sealing time to 15 seconds
-Make his footsteps quieter
And that's it. That's literally all he needs. Make his portals a little easier to defend with a byproduct of increased stall and let him get more use out of Undetectable. Aside from that, Demo is totally fine. Shred is an incredibly powerful and versatile chase tool and portals are some of the best mobility you can have in the game when used correctly. People don't seem to understand that Demo can't just run tiles like a normal M1 Killer if you want to maximize his Shred's effectiveness, and they don't try that hard to defend their portals. Demo does everything he does well and anyone who says otherwise just doesn't know how to play him.
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On paper he should be one of the best killers in the game because he has everything going for him. Imo hes got everything but he's not great at them. His is map pressure is a set up which wastes time. His portals can also just be destoryed within 12 seconds and it doesn't help that he's giving a global notification once he does travel. His shred is not bad, in fact i think it's good as it is but it can use a littlw quality of life which is why i think rat liver should be base. And to top it off he is the most noisy killer literally giving every info on everything he does.
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All I ask for best boy demoboi is rat liver base and an add-on rework, that alone would make him much much better.
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In the series, the demobois hunt their prey quietly and sneakily, whih leads me to saying I agree with most others here that he needs to be quieter when moving, as well as his portal sealing times needs to be increased
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Not really entirely on topic but it is a demo perk after all.
What killer and build do you run when you run with mindbreaker cause ive never been able to make use of it.
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As I've said before, Demo is honestly fine. These are my usual games. I get consistent 4k's and when I meet a pretty good team if not the most toxic SWF's group there is, 9/10 times I'm walking away with 2k. I don't use add-ons at all for Demo and I am by no means a Demo using expert. But I've been maining him heavily compared to other Killers I used to play in recent months. If you want to tweak his add-ons, by all means do so. But he's in a pretty good spot with more potential I've yet to unlock when it comes to proper portal placement.
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Clown with Mindbreaker, Blood Echo, Coulrophobia, and either Sloppy or Forced Penance, with Solvent Jug.
Basically for any survivor that relies on their exhaustion perks this is a nightmare. They’re either without their exhaustion perk anytime they’re on a gen under 50%, or they contribute to game stall by waiting till their exhaustion is recovered before jumping on a gen less than 50%.
I started using this build mostly because of how much I hate the way coordinated SWF constantly use Head On to interrupt the chase of a teammate to help them get away. Oh and the obnoxious “wait till the last second then use my Sprint Burst” nonsense.
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I wrote a whole list of changes I’d make to his add-ons and perks. His base kit is perfect, so I made all of his add-ons support different types of gimmicky builds, as well as some generic ones you use if you just wanna have fun.
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All that's needed is an add on buff and OTA base speed should be 100%.
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I feel like he should have a ambush attack where he chills inside his portal and does something
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Sounds evil. Ima try it out myself. Thanks for your time buddy! Have a good day.
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