Do you console players out there feel like you are at a disadvantage to pc players?
Im on Ps4, and I've heard PC is the better platform, and It totally understand why. But now with cross play and getting the oppertunity to play with PC players, I dont feel at any disadvantage or even really any change when versing PC players. So my question to you guys is: If you are a console player do you feel at any particular disadvantage when going against PC survivors/killers, and to PC players do you feel like you're at an advantage when going against console survivor/killers. Thank you for any feedback
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Yes due to lack of frames only... Gameplaywise it's okay
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As a killer on Xbox absolutely. Turning with a controller is slower (even with the sensitivity adjustments a few patches ago) and apparently there is a thing called "flick" that I have yet to master.
But the huge gap is in machine performance, where I rarely get 30 fps consistently and far lower than that on the indoor maps (lookin accusantly at you Lery's). The Blight update actually smoothed out frames somewhat on many of the newest maps some, but the older maps (and indoor) all have the frame drops console has been dealing with for going on 2yrs now.
Any status effect triggering like Bloodlust, Exposed, Sloppy, etc. drops frames hard, as does Myers teiring up, searching a chest, breaking a pallet, being near a gen when it pops, and several others. And Entity help you if you are in struggle phase when one of these causes a frame drop, because it can be fatal. It is less noticable as a survivor but there nonetheless.
This lack of full optimization is the main reason why I turned off Crossplay, as I cannot consider it a fair chance to include PC players yet.
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As a console Killer there's just a couple things, like I'm easier to 360 than a PC killer would be and I can't hide my light while chasing. Generally not a big deal with the killers I play. Framerate is worse but since it's always been bad I'm kind of used to it.
As a survivor there's very little except I get more questionable hits on me if the killer is from another platform. Like I'm falling out a second floor window and get hit partway through the fall. I think that's happening to everyone, though.
I also don't have enough experience facing a Nurse as a survivor, haha those were almost a myth on PS4 until now.
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As a PC player I can't really speak to the difficulties of playing with a controller, except to say that it seems like it would be way harder as killer.
As far as playing against console players, I feel pretty good about it. I've gone against some really good console survivors. I respect that a lot. I've also gone against plenty of console potatoes, but root vegetable players are pretty prevalent on PC as well. No major issues there.
I will say that when I see a full lobby of console players I relax a little internally. This is less to do with their overall skill level and more to do with the fact that console teams play a bit more chill most of the time.
My only major complaint would be that console SWFs have some bad habits that have been carried over from the console meta. They're WAY more reliant on 360s, as they seem to believe they're a reliable strat against all killers. They're not. They also never seem to realize that I'm wearing headphones and can actually hear them following me around everywhere.
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yeah that about sums it up
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Yeah, I turned crossplay off because of it. As a killer, you will frequently end up missing an attack because you just don't have the frames needed to see where a survivor is going
As a survivor, things run much more smoothly but skill checks are weirdly "jumpy" and there is some input lag as well. Not much of an issue for good skill checks but great skill checks can be borderline impossible sometimes just because you can't tell where the little cursor is at. Can be kind of annoying
But yeah... it's purely performance for me. If console and PC had equal FPS, I'd turn crossplay back on
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As someone who plays extensively on both; the differences are small, but there. Things like frames and movement are honestly the only major differences, and even then. I do way better as killer on Xbox and can generally wipe the floor with other platform players, whereas on PC i manage survivor way better. These "issues" only become major, depending on how sweaty you are
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Due to difference in optimization definitely. Console issues are bad on their own but when I had crossplay on they seemed to be even worse. Losing frames v someone that doesn't have that issue puts you at a disadvantage.
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OR I can go with the cheaper option that is consistently good, and be able to put petrol in my car so I can go to my JOB that pays for my HOBBY that I don't feel the need to absolutely try hard in because games are just that. Games. For fun.
Consoles aren't exactly cheap either. My Xbox One X cost me $596 with a few games attached. Granted it was the Gears of War limited edition one with a 2TB hard drive, but that is money I could have used to pay for something like insurance and registration for a full year.
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Yes absolutely.
On both sides, the frame issues cause a lot of problems imo. Survivors vanish in the frames sometimes, and killers can jerk around as survivor.
As a killer though? Oof. Landing a normal hit is harder because joystick limitations, not to mention any killer that has to aim. Something overlooked a lot is its a lot harder to mind game with controller because you cannot flick/turn your camera anywhere near as fast as pc. Your red stain will most likely give you away because of the turning speed that comes with controller. Its not impossible, just harder and less effective.
Can'd do much about the controller issues, but the frames should not be this bad and it should not have taken cross-play coming out just to get it acknowledged. I'm most likely keeping cross-play off, but fixing the frames would help a lot of people and maybe make me reconsider.
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I don’t feel disadvantaged on survivor I just realize I’m boosted due to the bad rank reset. I only solo Q but as a killer main I just play enough survivor to maintain red rank and do daily/rift.
personally I think that a lot of players have a hard time admitting that due to swf/rank reset they really aren’t that good and lash out at platforms and killers.
just my opinion
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Nope
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Being that I can barely hook Survivors or break Pallets and Generators, yes. I never had this problem before the update on PS4. Survivors, as a whole, have a major advantage right now. It's insane how unresponsive R1 is while trying to perform an action! Surely I can't be the only one having this problem on PlayStation? What's going on?
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You are most definitely not the only one. I am not playing killer for a while until it’s fixed. Gives me a headache atm.
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As a killer you are at a disadvantage, as a survivor it depends. Theres a handful of killers that are much better on PC than console (Nurse, Deathslinger, Huntress and to a lesser extent all the other precision killers like PH, Plauge, probably blight ect ect) But Nurse and Deathslinger really suck on console so i never see them, and even with crossplay I've only met one good nurse. I mean year it was a slaughter and would never happen with a console nurse so in that respect i was at a disadvantage but like i said it was only one in like 100 matches and most the huntresses aren't THAT good. Way better than console huntress but i've still escaped from them plenty.
The reason that you are at a disadvantage as console killer vs PC survivor is the ease of 360ing and juking and ig the higher frames. I noticed against PC players my hits seem to miss a lot more even when im at their back. Also PC survivors are a lot more toxic and optimal, Ive been gen rushed before but on PC they've gone in like less than 5 minutes. It might be because its easier to hit great skill checks plus having 100s of brand new parts.
I keep crossplay on survivor, turn it off as killer if i remember. Its not unwinnable because if you down them fast enough they DC 80% of the time but its not fun.
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This is just game-breaking. A patch needs to be released ASAP.
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Depends on the killer
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On Switch, yes, since we lack of many stuff that pc has and it sucks to play, I just want my data on xbox 😞
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I turned off crossplay for killer on PS4 and i still get instant queues. Frame drops are even worse when playing a crossplay match. I played a crossplay match on Lery's with PH and i legit couldn't see where people were going around corners because of 10 FPS. Turned that off immediately. I turn it on for playing survivor for the faster queues though. Killers on PC are much better than PS4 killers obviously
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Gameplay wise it's completely fine. I've gone against a few really good PC Nurse's already and was able to have decent chases. So, in terms of gameplay difficulty, it's pretty similar and if you're already skilled at the game, then you'll do good against any platform.
But, like others have mentioned, the framerate is the biggest killer. Maps like Midwich, Lery's, Hawkins, etc, lag frames insanely. They need to fix the framerate of this game on console. Then it would be much better.
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Besides fps, I've noticed PC survivors are more twitchy. So I try not to move the camera as much. Killers are the same besides some sharpshooter deathslingers or huntresses
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Yeah Im learning framerate do be a killer tho. Thx for the feedback!
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Yes, because of frames and against a few certain killers I feel at such a disadvantage.
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I definitely notice a disadvantage as killer. Frame rate drops aside, killers on Xbox have quite the disadvantage against PC survivors, due to how much better controls are on PC. I've noticed that PC killers have a MUCH easier time playing mind games and hitting survivors that juke well.
Before crossplay, I was able to consistently get 2-3k on any SwF team... But I can tell right away if a SwF is on PC. They can dodge and move in ways that no console player can. Plus, you have the fact that their PC probably runs circles over my Xbox performance wise, every time.
Having said that, I'm not turning crossplay off, as I prefer the shorter wait times, and I still have fun.
The one thing I wish they would do, is provide a checklist, allowing you to specify who you can connect to. It just seems reasonable to allow us to have crossplay. AND the ability to choose not to face this tryhard SwF squads... And let's not mention how much more sweaty PC killers are. Lol
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lol no.
There were god Nurses or whatever before the update hit. People just remember the ones that were trying to get the hang of her after unfortunately being in red ranks.
There used to be a lot more Myers. That was a PS4 thing I guess. And red ranks were just Billys and Huntresses.
Survivor experience barely changed. Post crossplay update its the usual "I hope my teammates are actually doing something" solo experience.
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One thing I disliked about xplay are the PC streamers.. Idk if they play dirty due to public request or so but most of them play very scummy... I'm starting to prefer longer queue times than shorter ones with garbage gameplay.
But that's not a pc X console thing... It's just human beings being trash. There are a lot of dirty killers on console too, but in a much lower ratio than on xplay.
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Console Killers have a hard time with Nurse / huntress etc but there should be no reason why a console survivor is worse then a pc survivor...
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Maybe you understand the "killer sees twitch.tv names - thats a mori" memes now :3
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As killer, a bit but not enough where I'd complain about it. It's mostly just frame issues really, I don't play Huntress or Nurse and a lot of survivors are still potato. I've also run into more good teams but no tournament squads where I felt it was impossible to win or anything.
As survivor, not even a little. I don't notice any difference in killer skill outside of Nurse and Huntress and in solo queue and duos I'm still normally the only one doing most of the gens but not always. So, not much has changed really. That said, when I do get people that actually know how to play, that is a lot more noticeable then when it was only PS4. As in I've had a lot more "let's not heal in a corner and instead work on them gens" which has been fantastic.
I'm also super happy that crossplay even became a thing since I've been able to go against some streamers as well, even ones I don't watch just because it's fun to see things from another perspective. Hell, last weak was a ride, went against a hacker, Zubat and Ralph pretty much back to back. That was great.
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Honestly, I feel nothing.
Oh, wait, DbD... Yeah, no, I don't feel like I have an advantage on PC except performance-wise, and even then it's an advantage I have over other PC players as well because not everyone can run DBD at 60fps.
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There is some differences and disadvantages for console killers, most of then could be fixed with a K&M support. Additionally would allow console players to play with any killer.
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I have faced a few before and one was just as supprised as I was to grab me mid pallet vault when they was aiming for a different guy lol nurse takes some skill to use on pc but alot on console I wonder how pc player's fair against a god their console nurse that's had to work twice as hard to be the best their they can be
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No not really
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good points, and I agree Im really lovin crossplay too its been a blast so far. Thanks for the feedback!
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I play on Xbox, the lack of optimization is a huge disadvantage. Getting hit buy sloppy butcher (or any status) do the first time causes your game to hitch for a solid second, and that can easily get you killed. As a killer when blood lust activates the same thing happens and the easily causes you to lose track of a survivor. Both are super frustrating to deal with
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yeah like I said im on ps4, and those small hitches to tend to effect my gameplay from time to time, it sucks. Thx for the feedback!
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lol fair enough, thx for the feedback!
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Honestly, no. I play PS4 as well, and while I've run into more skilled players, I think it's only because I'm getting lobbies with players close to my level. Before cross play, I got lobbies that took for *ever*, and I got really mismatched levels on my team.
Now, the matchmaking time and accuracy has improved, and I feel like I'm getting a chance to get better.
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Good point, I feel the same, its definetly a good oppertunity to get better . Thx for your feedback!
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Pc will always have an advantage and I turned it off after a week. Games are more enjoyable again. Between pc survivors just being absolutely toxic on your team and the killers movements that they can't do on Xbox. Nurse is probably the only exception, if I could ensure I always got a pc nurse ide turn it back on, they're so easy to run because I guess they're used to chasing a certain way. Can run them the entire match.
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Yeah, I played a few years ago on PS4 and could 360 almost every killer every match all the time. Now, in crossplay the frame rate makes that a lot tougher. I'm sure there's advantages like aiming with ranged killers that are close to negligible but an advantage is an advantage. End of story.
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Yeah. As someone who mains Nurse on console I think pc survivors are considerably harder to play against than console survivors. Pc players are very used to playing against Nurse because pc is pretty much the only place you'd find Nurse players. Console survivors, however, would only play against her once in a blue moon and the majority of those times the killer would have no idea what they're doing so when they'd play against me they'd just have to wing it because they weren't used to playing against a competent Nurse. That in tandem with the massive frame drops I get and with the smoother movement and flow of gameplay pc survivors have can make it very hard to play against them.
I imagine it's a similar case with the Huntress but to a lesser extent but I don't play Huntress so I can't really say for sure on that.
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Ever since they increased the tick rate, things have been pretty good. Frames tho...
Oh and teammates... their usually potatoes with crossplay activated
Edit: I play on Xbox
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umm you can 100% hide your red light mid chase on controller, i do it literally every game
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yeah u gotta know them strats, but I think u can agree its pretty effective
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Tbf, I feel like I've been getting pretty potatoe teammates even before cross play lol
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Buddy if you switch to a pc that gets over 60fps steady and doesn't drop into the 30s during a chase, and you lunge at someone doing a 360, believe me you are gonna find out real quick what the advantage of pc is. You console guys got a lot to learn with all these posts that display your ignorance to what it means to be a pc gamer. I mean that with respect.
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As a killer, there seems to be an increase in lag against PC survivors. Like, your weapon goes RIGHT through them, and they don't get hurt. So I turn off crossplay as killer. Not my fault they can't get this game working right.
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Not really. PC players really aren't that much better than console players except maybe for Nurse and Huntress.
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i switched a while back but i can say survivor is the exact same on both platforms but killer is waaaaaaay diffrent
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