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DBD has no reason.....

Not to do dedicated servers. F13th the game is doing them and that's a dead game. Don't get shown up devs.....
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  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    fcc2014 said:
    Fyi we need a sad button response :(
    The "insightful" one as well @fcc2014
  • Might_Oakk
    Might_Oakk Member Posts: 1,243

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    The reason is that they dont want to recode their spaghetti code to make it viable for dedicated servers.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    Even Soul at stake gonna have a dedicated servers lol

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 
    You are talking about assigning a team to work on dedicated servers. It’s either they are going to need to get more employees or remove one of their current team members to a new assignment. 

    I rather them finishing up releasing things now then go 1month- to however long it will take for them to recode things for dedicated servers.

    I personally am satisfied with the things that they are releasing to us as of now. 
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Iceman said:

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 
    You are talking about assigning a team to work on dedicated servers. It’s either they are going to need to get more employees or remove one of their current team members to a new assignment. 

    I rather them finishing up releasing things now then go 1month- to however long it will take for them to recode things for dedicated servers.

    I personally am satisfied with the things that they are releasing to us as of now. 
    Local servers have never been a good feature
  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    Iceman said:

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 
    You are talking about assigning a team to work on dedicated servers. It’s either they are going to need to get more employees or remove one of their current team members to a new assignment. 

    I rather them finishing up releasing things now then go 1month- to however long it will take for them to recode things for dedicated servers.

    I personally am satisfied with the things that they are releasing to us as of now. 
    They have made plenty of money off the cosmetic store to hire a few people to work on dedicated servers. There's this thing called multitasking that means that one team could be working on new content while another could be doing dedicated servers 
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    Yeah, the internet is very complicated! This means new IP addresses and everything for the programmers!
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  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457
    Iceman said:

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 
    You are talking about assigning a team to work on dedicated servers. It’s either they are going to need to get more employees or remove one of their current team members to a new assignment. 

    I rather them finishing up releasing things now then go 1month- to however long it will take for them to recode things for dedicated servers.

    I personally am satisfied with the things that they are releasing to us as of now. 
    They have made plenty of money off the cosmetic store to hire a few people to work on dedicated servers. There's this thing called multitasking that means that one team could be working on new content while another could be doing dedicated servers 
    It easy to write it out that way but I am pretty sure it is more complicated then that. I am not a game designer so I am not able to say what actually is possible but I do know that money goes to places that you may not even think about such as employee, lights, water, programs and etc. Vietfox said:
    Iceman said:

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 
    You are talking about assigning a team to work on dedicated servers. It’s either they are going to need to get more employees or remove one of their current team members to a new assignment. 

    I rather them finishing up releasing things now then go 1month- to however long it will take for them to recode things for dedicated servers.

    I personally am satisfied with the things that they are releasing to us as of now. 
    Local servers have never been a good feature
    Yeah I heard, but maybe one day they will have it. It just they probably do not see it as a necessity at the moment since the game still able to function with out it just not the best as one would wish. 
  • Mesme
    Mesme Member Posts: 177

    I'd love a dedicated server I'm not joking it be so amazing and I'd probably be less frustrated now with that said I actually bought F13 as of TODAY because of my friends who got tired of lagging and it's a shame that F13 has this a game that is pretty much DEAD because of a lawsuit. STEP UP BEHAVIOR!

  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    I'm surprised nobody's said the obvious truth here. Dedicated servers are going to be easy to get going, and sustain, when your player base is dead. The F13 team even said since they can't produce new content they would focus on fixing the game and doing things like this.

    I'm absolutely for DBD getting them too, but this game has always been P2P. Going to dedicated servers isn't as simple as plugging something in and flipping a switch. Then I think about how many more players DBD has and how easily the login server gets overloaded during something like 2.0 or the free Plus month... I hope they do it, but I'm not going to act like Behavior is some evil stepmother locking us in the attic. B-but she took our cosmetic monies!
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    <font color=#33FFC1> Nobody is saying it is easy or cheap but for a community that screams about balance, it isn't and while never be balanced with latency. If i hit you on my screen and it didn't connect or vice versa that is an issue. Balance is not even close if i'm subjected to someones dial up connection while they download 5gb of porn in the background.
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    fcc2014 said:
    <font color=#33FFC1> Nobody is saying it is easy or cheap but for a community that screams about balance, it isn't and while never be balanced with latency. If i hit you on my screen and it didn't connect or vice versa that is an issue. Balance is not even close if i'm subjected to someones dial up connection while they download 5gb of porn in the background.
    What kind of porn are we talking about @fcc2014
  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    I'm surprised nobody's said the obvious truth here. Dedicated servers are going to be easy to get going, and sustain, when your player base is dead. The F13 team even said since they can't produce new content they would focus on fixing the game and doing things like this.

    I'm absolutely for DBD getting them too, but this game has always been P2P. Going to dedicated servers isn't as simple as plugging something in and flipping a switch. Then I think about how many more players DBD has and how easily the login server gets overloaded during something like 2.0 or the free Plus month... I hope they do it, but I'm not going to act like Behavior is some evil stepmother locking us in the attic. B-but she took our cosmetic monies!
    No one here is acting like behavior is mistreating it's fan base. But this game should have never been P2P to begin with. 
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Vietfox said:
    fcc2014 said:

    Nobody is saying it is easy or cheap but for a community that screams about balance, it isn't and while never be balanced with latency. If i hit you on my screen and it didn't connect or vice versa that is an issue. Balance is not even close if i'm subjected to someones dial up connection while they download 5gb of porn in the background.

    What kind of porn are we talking about @fcc2014

    From this community it could be anything! Nothing would shock or surprise me. I have already seen ladyboy mentioned before as have i heard tentacle so......

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:
    fcc2014 said:

    Nobody is saying it is easy or cheap but for a community that screams about balance, it isn't and while never be balanced with latency. If i hit you on my screen and it didn't connect or vice versa that is an issue. Balance is not even close if i'm subjected to someones dial up connection while they download 5gb of porn in the background.

    What kind of porn are we talking about @fcc2014

    From this community it could be anything! Nothing would shock or surprise me. I have already seen ladyboy mentioned before as have i heard tentacle so......

    Lol starting the timer....let's so how long before u get a ban XD
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @chemical_reject said:
    Iceman said:


    chemical_reject said:


    Might_Oakk said:

    To be fair it's not as easy as plugging something in. The game needs to be recoded.

    They have nothing else todo at F13th.

    To be fair I never said it was gonna be easy BUT if a dead game is gonna do it, whether they have anything else to do or not, then DBD can get their ######### together and assign a team to only work on dedicated servers 

    You are talking about assigning a team to work on dedicated servers. It’s either they are going to need to get more employees or remove one of their current team members to a new assignment. 

    I rather them finishing up releasing things now then go 1month- to however long it will take for them to recode things for dedicated servers.

    I personally am satisfied with the things that they are releasing to us as of now. 

    They have made plenty of money off the cosmetic store to hire a few people to work on dedicated servers. There's this thing called multitasking that means that one team could be working on new content while another could be doing dedicated servers 

    Its not that easy. Not all things can be done parallel in development, especialyl if we are talking about the netcode.

    During that rework of their original game, I guess they wouldnt be able to pull off any DLCs in that time and currently every 3 month a DLC is planned, so.....

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:
    fcc2014 said:

    Nobody is saying it is easy or cheap but for a community that screams about balance, it isn't and while never be balanced with latency. If i hit you on my screen and it didn't connect or vice versa that is an issue. Balance is not even close if i'm subjected to someones dial up connection while they download 5gb of porn in the background.

    What kind of porn are we talking about @fcc2014

    From this community it could be anything! Nothing would shock or surprise me. I have already seen ladyboy mentioned before as have i heard tentacle so......

    Lol starting the timer....let's so how long before u get a ban XD
    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    edited September 2018

    @chemical_reject I think the king of console is more likely to report me for hurting his feelings.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Vietfox said:
    chemical_reject said:


    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:

    fcc2014 said:

     Nobody is saying it is easy or cheap but for a community that screams about balance, it isn't and while never be balanced with latency. If i hit you on my screen and it didn't connect or vice versa that is an issue. Balance is not even close if i'm subjected to someones dial up connection while they download 5gb of porn in the background.
    

    What kind of porn are we talking about @fcc2014

    From this community it could be anything! Nothing would shock or surprise me. I have already seen ladyboy mentioned before as have i heard tentacle so......

    Lol starting the timer....let's so how long before u get a ban XD

    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014

    Will be worth it though :smile:

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Vietfox said:

    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014


    for the little kids who don't understand they are standing up saying they are Spartacus.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    edited September 2018
    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:

    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014


    for the little kids who don't understand they are standing up saying they are Spartacus.

    Exactly @fcc2014 @chemical_reject
    We are a team.
  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    Vietfox said:
    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:

    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014


    for the little kids who don't understand they are standing up saying they are Spartacus.

    Exactly @fcc2014 @chemical_reject
    We are a team.
    And they say console and pc don't get along 
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @chemical_reject said:
    Vietfox said:


    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:

    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014

    for the little kids who don't understand they are standing up saying they are Spartacus.

    Exactly @fcc2014 @chemical_reject
    We are a team.

    And they say console and pc don't get along 

    It isn't a console vs pc/survivor vs killer. It is a practicality vs insanity divide on this forum.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Vietfox iit is a real shame you don't play with us. When we play together on the weekends the game is the background noise as we drink and talk about the most ridiculous things.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @chemical_reject said:

    They have made plenty of money off the cosmetic store to hire a few people to work on dedicated servers. There's this thing called multitasking that means that one team could be working on new content while another could be doing dedicated servers 

    As I've said repeatedly they have to not only rewrite the code from the ground up but hire a lot more people. You don't know exactly how much money they've made from the store and if you look at their job listings.

    https://www.bhvr.com/job-opportunities/

    Now look at all the job listings they've got open right now and you don't just hire anyone for the position. You have to go through the interview progress to make sure you get the right person which takes time.

    Once they hire them it takes them time to get them up to speed on how things work and some of that has already been done.

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    They have made plenty of money off the cosmetic store to hire a few people to work on dedicated servers. There's this thing called multitasking that means that one team could be working on new content while another could be doing dedicated servers 

    As I've said repeatedly they have to not only rewrite the code from the ground up but hire a lot more people. You don't know exactly how much money they've made from the store and if you look at their job listings.

    https://www.bhvr.com/job-opportunities/

    Now look at all the job listings they've got open right now and you don't just hire anyone for the position. You have to go through the interview progress to make sure you get the right person which takes time.

    Once they hire them it takes them time to get them up to speed on how things work and some of that has already been done.

    We get it, u want to be a mod. 
  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    fcc2014 said:

    @chemical_reject said:
    Vietfox said:


    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:

    I'll take the ban for @fcc2014

    for the little kids who don't understand they are standing up saying they are Spartacus.

    Exactly @fcc2014 @chemical_reject
    We are a team.

    And they say console and pc don't get along 

    It isn't a console vs pc/survivor vs killer. It is a practicality vs insanity divide on this forum.

    And the overly loyal fans who get triggered if u say anything remotely critical of the devs....
  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    I don't understand why people say it is hard it is difficult bla bla

    If getting dedicated servers are that difficult, how does F13 do that? If it is not that difficult, why cant DBD do that?

    It is their fault if their code is like spaghetti. It isn't a good argument.

    At least as customers, we should be able to demand it.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @chemical_reject said:

    We get it, u want to be a mod. 

    You seem to be the only one that wants to use that logical fallacy repeatedly when you can't debate. I posted information so that people could use that information to have more info to discuss with.

    Whether i want to be a mod or not has no bearing on how I try and help people or give info since I was giving this out long before mods were even discussed.

  • Zavri
    Zavri Member Posts: 261

    I hosted a dedicated server for <300 people for ultima online.

    This was on a Celeron PC back in that day too.

    Probably isn't hard to host for what, 50 people right now?

  • Zavri
    Zavri Member Posts: 261

    @fcc2014 said:
    @Vietfox iit is a real shame you don't play with us. When we play together on the weekends the game is the background noise as we drink and talk about the most ridiculous things.

    you know any card game is a better way to chat while hanging out online right? especially VR poker.

  • Judgement
    Judgement Member Posts: 955
    edited September 2018

    I'm not sure if anybody else has said it yet, but even Identity V has Dedicated Servers, and that is a mobile game, supported by BHVR, but not owned by them.
    But I understand personally why BHVR aren't doing Dedicated Servers - they would need to remake the networking and most of the coding for the game, from scratch.
    Do you guys even know how nasty the problems are for a Killer who is not host, like in KYF? Trapper's traps float over the ground, the Pig's Jigsaw Boxes might not even spawn and cause her traps to instantly kill, Killers can be launched out of the map out of god damn nowhere, doing literally nothing, then fly off into orbit instantaneously. Those are only a few of the problems that happen to the Killer alone if they aren't host.

    Identity V was created with Dedicated Servers in mind, and that's why it supports it. As far as I know it never started off as a P2P connection game, so they never needed to change the networking and the game itself to support Dedicated Servers.
    If you take another game for example, Warframe is a game that's peer to peer, but it could be easily transferred over to Dedicated Servers, solely because the game was not created like Dead By Daylight. Warframe would be easy to move to Dedicated Servers because of how the game already is - suitable for an easy transfer.
    Dead By Daylight? It actually isn't. The Killer has always been host for this game and the game has been built up and designed around exactly that. If they want to make it into Dedicated Servers, BHVR would need to remake the game from the ground-up to support Dedicated Servers.
    And with remaking the game from the ground up... there's a massive amount of ways that BHVR could break the game.
    I'd rather stay with peer-to-peer connections than a transfer to Dedicated Servers that could break the entire game.
    Of course BHVR have the money, but do they have the time, tech, or skill to do it? That's the question you should be asking, people.

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    We get it, u want to be a mod. 

    You seem to be the only one that wants to use that logical fallacy repeatedly when you can't debate. I posted information so that people could use that information to have more info to discuss with.

    Whether i want to be a mod or not has no bearing on how I try and help people or give info since I was giving this out long before mods were even discussed.

    Anytime anything remotely critical about the game or the devs get said and here comes @powerbats to defend them and tell everyone why they r wrong. 
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    edited September 2018

    @chemical_reject said:
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    We get it, u want to be a mod. 

    You seem to be the only one that wants to use that logical fallacy repeatedly when you can't debate. I posted information so that people could use that information to have more info to discuss with.

    Whether i want to be a mod or not has no bearing on how I try and help people or give info since I was giving this out long before mods were even discussed.

    Anytime anything remotely critical about the game or the devs get said and here comes @powerbats to defend them and tell everyone why they r wrong. 

    If @powerbats does become a mod you may get the ban hammer before me. Maybe myself, @Vietfox and @PinkEricka visit you in forum jail. Poor @EpicFailTryHard and @Lowbei got sent to death row!

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @chemical_reject said:
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    We get it, u want to be a mod. 

    You seem to be the only one that wants to use that logical fallacy repeatedly when you can't debate. I posted information so that people could use that information to have more info to discuss with.

    Whether i want to be a mod or not has no bearing on how I try and help people or give info since I was giving this out long before mods were even discussed.

    Anytime anything remotely critical about the game or the devs get said and here comes @powerbats to defend them and tell everyone why they r wrong. 

    So I'm the only one that points out flaws in yours or others posts somehow? You also somehow miss where I've called out the devs for issues or agreed with those that have. Just because I defend them doesn't mean I do so blindly.

    But if you or anyone else is going to post blatantly false stuff or innuendo then i'll call you out on it. The same as I call out survivors that say killers are op when they just started playing the game.

    Perhaps you should go back and read my comments on why i say people are wrong instead of just being completely biased and ignoring the substance of what I say.

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    We get it, u want to be a mod. 

    You seem to be the only one that wants to use that logical fallacy repeatedly when you can't debate. I posted information so that people could use that information to have more info to discuss with.

    Whether i want to be a mod or not has no bearing on how I try and help people or give info since I was giving this out long before mods were even discussed.

    Anytime anything remotely critical about the game or the devs get said and here comes @powerbats to defend them and tell everyone why they r wrong. 

    So I'm the only one that points out flaws in yours or others posts somehow? You also somehow miss where I've called out the devs for issues or agreed with those that have. Just because I defend them doesn't mean I do so blindly.

    But if you or anyone else is going to post blatantly false stuff or innuendo then i'll call you out on it. The same as I call out survivors that say killers are op when they just started playing the game.

    Perhaps you should go back and read my comments on why i say people are wrong instead of just being completely biased and ignoring the substance of what I say.

    I'm not interested in reading anything of yours anymore. So no. 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @fcc2014 said:

    If @powerbats does become a mod you may get the ban hammer before me. Maybe myself, @Vietfox and @PinkEricka visit you in forum jail. Poor @EpicFailTryHard and @Lowbei got sent to death row!

    While it'd be tempting and quite gratuitous to wield the ban hammer, it's not something to be used lightly or in retribution. Now the spammers will get my attention all the time and will get the same treatment the other mods give them.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @chemical_reject said:

    I'm not interested in reading anything of yours anymore. So no. 

    What? LOL!

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    powerbats said:

    @fcc2014 said:

    If @powerbats does become a mod you may get the ban hammer before me. Maybe myself, @Vietfox and @PinkEricka visit you in forum jail. Poor @EpicFailTryHard and @Lowbei got sent to death row!

    While it'd be tempting and quite gratuitous to wield the ban hammer, it's not something to be used lightly or in retribution. Now the spammers will get my attention all the time and will get the same treatment the other mods give them.

     Lmao ur gonna be power tripping just like most of the other ones. 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @chemical_reject said:

     Lmao ur gonna be power tripping just like most of the other ones. 

    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” – Christopher Hitchens.

    Assumptions don't equate to facts just because you disagree with someone. I could say you're acting like completely whiny spoiled entitled 2 year old throwing a tantrum in the corner. While you may in fact be doing that it doesn't make it true.

    As far as mods being on a power trip some of the loudest complainers are those that asked for the mods to be stricter. The mods started being more strict once they got help and now people are complaining they're ona power trip.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @chemical_reject said:

    I'm not interested in reading anything of yours anymore. So no. 

    I'm wounded, oh well I'll guess I'll just have to rely on @RSB and @Vietfox to keep me entertained. 😁

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox iit is a real shame you don't play with us. When we play together on the weekends the game is the background noise as we drink and talk about the most ridiculous things.

    You also drink when playing?
    Damn, i'll seriously consider to buy a ps4 now, and i mean it. Maybe around october.
    PS: i fell asleep xD
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @chemical_reject said:

    I'm not interested in reading anything of yours anymore. So no. 

    I'm wounded, oh well I'll guess I'll just have to rely on @RSB and @Vietfox to keep me entertained. 😁

    Are we a meme already? XD