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I am a main pig and...

Hello everybody I hope you're all well and taking care of yourselves.


As many people know I am a main pig, and I do know that she is not the strogest killer in the roster but. Why do almost everybody camps/tunnel with her? Don't missunderstand me, I know that those are strategies but being able to hide your terror radius is not because "their power is to camp and tunnel", the same happended with PH cages when people said "So they show you the cages and don't want you to tunnel them? His power encourages tunneling since cages don't activate DS and BT". NO, the reason why PH could see cages was to give info about which location survivors will go in order to rescue the caged survivor, not to camp or tunnel them. And as I said, sometimes the best strategy will be to camp or tunnel so as I said, I understand them being strategies. Now, killers have different play styles, as an example you won't use Clown's bottles like a madman, you won't blink without a reason as Nurse's. Pig has her RBT which creates a pressure element that many killers have not or lack off.

Many survivors won't even try to remove their RBT's and they get killed from it, so as a Pig main, it hurts me so much that survivors will often disconnect if the killer is Pig because they believe Pig means a fun time being tunneled/camped when she's not. She may not be Nurse or Spirit but she is a good killer, not the best but not the worst. I had several matches as her and the players who stayed in-match, even though I killed them, they thanked me in the post chat and told me "there should be more pigs like you".

So my advice with any killer, not only Pig. Learn to play them, I know you will have a plethora of toxicity from survivors bullying you but if you learn a killer you will know when to use their power and when it's not, so you won't depend on camping or tunneling except when the situation calls for it.


Have a great day/afternoon/night everyone.

Comments

  • OmegaXII
    OmegaXII Member Posts: 2,220

    I think the reason why people camp with her crouch is because of how inefficient it is in any other situations. The movement speed is so painfully low, and the ambush gives a huge warning roar lol..

    I don't use these tactics, but i think that'll be the reason.

  • xenofon13
    xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241

    It's simple. Pig is not a strong killer, gets frustrated against good teams and the tunnel begins.

  • TheStabbiNAngeL
    TheStabbiNAngeL Member Posts: 1,264

    It sucks the took away the man's ability to see his own cages, but some player's wanted it the made it so ugly and complained so much that the devs had no choices ruining such a great feature me myself never tunneled one cage and yet the good good punished for the bad.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    I think that's a pretty lame excuse, I mean if we talk about strong killers then yeah you should camp with Clown, Plague or others and tunnel but not every survivor knows how to run tiles, is a red rank or a SWF so you can play without using those tactics. It is frustrating to lose, but I do believe that if you lose then there is room to improve yourself and it's up to you to do so.

  • koodles33
    koodles33 Member Posts: 12

    Pig is one of my favorite killers to play. She is forced to tunnel in a sense, though, because she has to get her RBT onto survivors to force that pressure.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    Not really, since generally will put the RBT on them before hooking them. With tunneling I mean chasing the unhooked RBT survivor when RBT provides you with an extra pressure.

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,566

    WHAT..... there's another Pig main out there.... HI

    Yea her RBT's are extra pressure but only if timed right

    The way I go about it is... My first RBT goes on as soon as possible

    The second goes on either as soon as I get the next survivor down or After the first Gen is done

    The third and forth go on when I find that I losing pressure or when I need more pressure

    No camping or tunneling (for the most part) here

  • ZCerebrate
    ZCerebrate Member Posts: 641

    Most people have no idea how to use Pig at all - her crouch and even ambush dashes are criminally overused by most new killers and hovering hook in stealth is the same pattern most new Ghostfaces fall into because they don't understand how to get better.

    For sure Pig is one of the weaker killers (most M1 killers are) with no additional mobility to pressure gens or end chases instantly like some killers if the survivors aren't making glaring mistakes BUT most players don't even play her to her full pressure then cry about how weak she is. Giving hats to people is a huge part of her kit but after the nerf - it's rare to get a RBT kill now unless they're relentlessly pressuring gens and giving no chance for unhooked people to remove them. Also combined with the sheer RNG of it much like Trapper where it can go from being worthless first box clear to the other extreme of wasting like a minute+ of time for that survivor.

    Two little things that would improve alot of newer Pig's gameplay:

    1) Run most of the match as you need to get around the map or all generators will be done before you even start enough chases - only crouch if you are pretty sure that it will net you a hit due to obscured vision or a sneaky angle. Synergizing her crouch with M&A can make it useable as you approach areas - making sure to strafe while looking at a wall to counter spine chill. New players are recommended to combo with Whispers and basically just crouch as soon as you see Whispers blink on for a free hit against unsuspecting survivors. Prefer to run it with Discordance once you get a better judge for ingame distances and that stealth will land you a lot of free hits and create pressure.

    2) Applying hats to slugged targets then going off to down a 2nd survivor so two people have activated hats as that first or second gen pops - even if you went from 2 hooks to 1 hook can make a huge difference in the amount of pressure on the survivors. Having 2~3 activated RBTs with 3~4 gens remaining can literally swing the match onto your plate even if you play 100% normally the rest of the match (if RNG doesn't screw you). Zoning chases toward boxes ontop of that will result in a lot of people either trying to get a RBT off in your face making lots of noise or wasting even more time running about or waiting nearby - not doing anything else. Even against 4 man DS unbreakable SWFs - this is very much an effective way to create early pressure and make sure your hats do something during the match (since they were nerfed to be less effective to worthless the later the game goes).

  • azame
    azame Member Posts: 2,870

    They took it away because every pyramid head went immediately to the cages to tunnel it wasn't healthy.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    I'll camp for one of three reasons.

    • You BMed me. Wanted my attention? Enjoy!
    • I have an annoying quest to do (sorry about that).
    • It's the final gen and I've yet to secure a single kill.

    Aside from case #1 - I'll generally feel a little bad about it.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    It really isn't a Pig thing. People that camp are more often than not very bad as killer so they will camp regardless of the killer they're playing.

    Hell, most Bubbas I come across are camping even though he is stupid strong since his rework which is why I actually don't enjoy playing him anymore even though I have mained Bubba since his release .

    Bad killers however somehow manage to still struggle with him so they rely on camping solo survivors who don't even bring any items.

    And those killers make it to red ranks as well.

    So yeah, it isn't a Pig thing but more of a "many killers are bad at the game thing".

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,566
    edited September 2020

    @Yamaoka

    It's a playstyle thing... Bad habits rule the world when players are playing killers they aren't familiar with or don't have perks they like

  • noctis129
    noctis129 Member Posts: 967

    Camping and tunneling is totally fine. It use to piss me off when I was a noob.


    But it's just part of the game unless u want to play against bots.


    I rather get tunneled and camped.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Literally every killer has been tunneling recently. I had a rank 1 Trapper tunnel me out of basement with an ebony mori at 4 gens.

    Yes, the ######### deranked. He couldn't even tunnel properly. Left me after a 3 gen chase. (Praise Resilience).

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    It's a combination of things for the RBT tunnelling.

    - Specific add-ond give penalties to trapped survivors, encouraging the Pig to go after said weak links.

    - They are almost always in a predictable location. There are usually only four boxes on the map, so that's where the survivor will tend to go towards.

    - Majority of the time, these players will be INJURED and therefore easy to pick off.


    GOOD Pig players will realise that, while yes these things are true, they will not work on a generator. They are effectively now removed from the match for all purposes of who to target.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 6,003

    Tunneling a surv with a hat is a terrible strat imo, but the vast majority of her add-ons are partly to blame as those do not help her track, move, or in looping, but only affect the hats and boxes, and poorly might I add.

    Anyone playing Pig long enough should outgrow this tactic, however she soooooo needs an overhaul of most of her add-ons.

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    Agreed. I could actually make a list if how a portion of them actively HARM the Pig using them.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    Note that I didn't say anything about them not being strategies, just that it would be nice if people would learn how to play a certain killer, even if you tunnel or camp, survivors often don't suicide even if they lost, when you know how to play said killer. Of course, there will be always the one who DC when you down them.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    I don't believe I am a good pig player although I can understand your points. I play mostly addonless, except combat straps which is very good for her.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    True. I am a main Bubba previous his rework and he is insanely strong now, before the rework I could say "yes, I understand".

  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893

    I main Amanda but I don't tunnel or camp.


    When it comes to reverse bear traps I'm usually not concerned about the people who have them on if I have something else to be doing.

    However

    If I'm patrolling and I just happened to run into somebody with a reverse bear trap I'm going to chase them down. How long I chase them down for depends on how efficient they are at chasing or if something else of higher priority comes along.

    If I feel like they're going to run me around for too long I'll break the chase it's not worth dedicating time too much time to people who are good at chases in general especially if they are trapped.

    Also if I happened to walk past another survivor who doesn't have a trap or is working on a gen I usually just switch targets and let the person with the reverse bear trap deal with that whilst I chase the person doing objectives.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    Well, that's game sense. And it's good to hear from another fellow Pig main :D

    With tunnel I mean staying close from the hook and then chasing the previously unhooked survivor.

  • Artemis_LH
    Artemis_LH Member Posts: 113
    edited September 2020

    The ONLY time I have ever lingered around a hook as The Pig is when I've seen the other three survivors go in for a save at the same time.

    I find this happening quite often whenever I play as her. I also find it hilarious when they complain about camping. Especially when literally ALL FOUR survivors spent the majority of the match gathered under/ around a single hook healing and making terrible attempts to juke.

  • Squirrel_Thicc
    Squirrel_Thicc Member Posts: 2,677

    I used to main pig and I can safely say that it's because against good teams, she's just too weak to win by playing fair. Which is why I don't play her anymore, I hate having to play scummy constantly.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    Why I didn't see your comment yesterday... Hi there! How are you doing? 🐷

    It's great to see another main Pig. And actually in this thread seems that there are a few.

  • IamFran
    IamFran Member Posts: 1,616

    Pig is my main and I "tunnel" depending on the circumstances.

    I mean, I don't "intentionally" tunnel nobody, but if I'm roaming in the map and casually see the injured guy with the RBT in the head I'm going to down and hook him again, bad luck if you are the last hooked, sorry.

  • CheyeneKL
    CheyeneKL Member Posts: 723

    Honestly can't say that I've run into TOO many tunneling Pigs... I run into more farming Pigs than normal Pigs, not even joking or exaggerating. Even if a Pig starts a match out normally, it always devolves into farming for some reason and I truly don't understand it LMAO