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Lack of strategy or am I missing something
I'm the first person hooked. A few seconds after I'm hooked another survivor comes running up to unhook me. The killer comes out from hiding and takes him down. Killer leaves this one slugged next to the hook.
I watch as the killer goes and hides again. A few seconds later one of the other survivors comes running up. Not sure if they were going to try to unhook me or heal the slugged person. Regardless, the killer jumps out and slugs them. I hadn't even hit struggle phase. Now I'm on the hook and there are 2 other survivors laying on the ground slugged right next to the hook, and the killer has went and hid nearby again.
Sure enough a few seconds after I go into struggle phase here comes the fourth survivor. Of course this survivor gets taken down.
Matches like this confuse me.
I understand the first person that ran to unhook me didn't realize the killer was hiding nearby, but the next one couldn't have been oblivious to what had just happened. Yet they did it anyway. Despite all this the 4th survivor still runs up like they are going to do something heroic. I can not for the life of me figure out why survivors in this situation do this.
I also don't understand the logic of the first 2 survivors laying exactly where they were slugged. If you were the first survivor surprised and slugged does it not make sense to move away from the hook? You force the killer to make a choice to cover you, the hooked survivor, or hook you. Simply laying there next to the hook makes it super easy for the killer to cover both people at once.
The other 3 survivor were ranks 7, 9, and 10. They weren't some sort of newbies that didn't understand what was happening. I just don't get it. I'm really curious if anyone has any sort of rational explanation why these type of things are far too common for survivors that should know better.
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There's a psychological effect called "risk compensation". The gist is that the safer you feel, the more likely you are to take risks. Playing survivor, with all the second chances you get, you rarely - if ever - feel like you're at risk, so you're more likely to make dumb plays. Combine that with second chance perks like DS and your risky behavior generally being rewarded because of all your second chances, and you've got yourself players who have been conditioned to make dumb plays, because they don't suffer any real consequences from them.
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I don't play survivor nearly as much as killer but I also see this a lot when I play survivor. If I'm hooked first and the next person gets slugged, I watch to see what the other survivors are doing. If they're doing gens I'll struggle til the very last moment to buy them time to punish the camping killer. But if they're making their way to me I kill myself on hook before they can get slugged. I think a lot of solo que survivors feel like bad team mates if they leave you on a hook and feel more obligated to save you the longer you're hooked. I'd much rather buy them 2 gens worth of time. Campers only 4k due to this altruism.
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I basically read that as "many survivors get delusional", and I completely agree.
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I do the same stuff. Normally if I'm in second hook phase and the killer is camping me I will stop struggling if I see a survivor running my way. In this situation though I hadn't reached struggle phase until the last survivor was headed my direction. Considering there were 2 survivors on the ground below me it wouldn't have stopped this would be hero.
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Then you read it wrong. It's a human thing, not exclusive to survivors. If killers had a ton of second chances, they'd do the same.
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“I also don't understand the logic of the first 2 survivors laying exactly where they were slugged. If you were the first survivor surprised and slugged does it not make sense to move away from the hook? You force the killer to make a choice to cover you, the hooked survivor, or hook you. Simply laying there next to the hook makes it super easy for the killer to cover both people at once.”
Welcome to solo queue. Where nothing makes sense and people don’t think.
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There's no indication in the OP to lead to conclude that was the case. You're trying to take this conversation to be about DS and '2nd chances' when we don't even know their builds and nothing was said about it. I don't understand those survivors' logic as I don't understand yours. They made a bad play. The end. The actual reasons are unknown. There might be n-thousand explanations why they did. Inexperience, panic, cockiness, incomplete information, boredom, wanting to move on to the next match and whatnot.
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Or maybe it's the fact that the other survivors don't want a boring ass game where all you do is hold a button at a generator while the killers just camps so they'd rather try something than being bored. Or maybe it's because they realise there's another person playing the survivor being camped and would rather take some risks to save them than letting them waste the whole queue time and game just being sat on a hook. It's not always stupidity, it's also being selfless or making the game interesting.
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OP asked for an explanation for survivors' overall risky behavior, not just the specific ones they encountered, as seen below.
I'm really curious if anyone has any sort of rational explanation why these type of things are far too common for survivors that should know better.
My explanation might be right or it might not, but it is an explanation I feel confident in.
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I don't know why the slugs didn't try to crawl away -- especially if they were down long enough to be recovered. That was a bad play on their part.
However, the fourth survivor made the same choice I would have. I've had lots of solo games where my three teammates all get downed really close to each other, and I a) feel obligated to at least try to go help, and b) feel like this match is already an L, so it's at least more interesting if I try to go help.
I'd say that, about 50% of the time, I'm able to get everyone back in action and we play normally for at least a few more minutes. The other 50% of the time, we all die, but that doesn't feel worse to me than skulking around looking for the hatch after everyone bleeds out.
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That's cool and I'm just giving the explanations that I'm confident are more true
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I didn't say it wasn't a human thing. I didn't say it's exclusive to survivors. I was saying some survivors get delusional about what is safe and smart
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I really do understand that sentiment from one viewpoint. The part of it that does bother me some is that when survivors play that way it just rewards killers that camp. It provides incentive to keep doing it. If survivors didn't make camping such a rewarding strategy I think the instances of camping would be reduced significantly.
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