Mathieu said they'd heard our complaints about the event and they would "do something about it"
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We can't let this crap go on. So basically every time they screw something simple up we have to rage about it until they "hear" us. Maybe if they listened in the first place we wouldn't have to? Do they ever learn from the mistakes. Btw go check out space coconut on YouTube hes literally fighting for a better game like we are now but dbd have tried to censor him by banning him from here. The King has also falsely had a video of his taken down for copyright. This itself is breaking strict guidelines. The video in question was just about this. What we were discussing now. If we support him we might be able to have a bigger voice we dbd devs try to mess us around in the future which lets face it with their track record they will.
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Actually, you can and you should let it go. Be grateful they even listen; many companies do not. Continuing to dump on them demonstrates being even more ungrateful and will give them this thought: "If I'm going to do the time, I might as well do the crime." Do you see my point. The company isn't the enemy, and treating them like one is a horrible precedent. It simply means they are less likely to listen to you going forward. Companies are made up of people who make hard choices. We will never be privy to the reasons they make them. I think it is unwise to make too many assumptions or to ascribe motives to them.
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But as currently demonstrated through the failure of the Halloween event and last Halloween event where we had to ask for them to bring back three skins don't YOU think that they should learn from their mistakes. Sure I agree that people shouldn't crap on the devs constantly with baseless accusations but a lot of thing space and lots of people say about the devs are true if not outright based on facts.
I do actually feel sorry sometimes for the devs. I get it. Getting constant backlash must be crap on your mental health to say the least. But censoring viewpoints is where I draw the line.
Yes I'm grateful for this game. I love horror. But no. I am not gonna just let crap go and be grateful that we get basic things from a company clearly letting standards drop.
Yeah their are worse people out their. (EA). But that's exactly why we need to call behaviour out when their wrong so they don't fall into that trap of being driven by greed and cash grabs.
I want the game to succeed and get better but by your way of thinking we would still have infinite loops. No end game collapse. Ridiculous map sizes. Omega nurse. Legion as he was when first came out. Pallet vacuums and much more.
Why should we be grateful for them "listening" when it takes waves upon waves of backlash to get a single damn change. If we didn't do this we'd be no where in terms of balance and quality game play.
I respectfully disagree with your opinion.
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No, I don't. Let me repeat, the company isn't the enemy, and they do things based on costs and labor that you and I don't see. They triage their resources and set priorities based on what they think is better for the long term health of the game. The long term health of the game is far more important to them, than it is to you and I. For us, there is always another game. For them, this might be their Swan Song. That is the hard truth for all companies whose product is an online game.
Do I think they made the right call? No. Halloween should probably always be a flagship event for them and a loss leader. You will get no disagreement from me on that. That being said, I don't think they should have been demonized and virtually tarred and feathered over their choice. Lumping them in with companies who truly do take advantage of their community was unfair (and i continues to be so) when they are extremely progressive. I sometimes wonder about the people who play and post here, I think their frames of reference must be very narrow indeed. This company is downright nice compared to most.
If I were to guess (always a dangerous thing) they have spread themselves thin (they are not a huge company with an army of coders) working on graphical updates to maps. They work on bugs behind the screens. Everyone assumes they are huge, which simply isn't true. They put the priority for the game as working on graphical updates to maps, and clearly feel they need a face lift in graphics to continue to compete in the market. That clearly has been a priority. Maps are and updating existing ones takes a huge amount of effort. The timing of their testing and release of several new maps conflicts with having a big Halloween event is very telling.
We have unrealistic and unreasonable expectations. We are Dudley from Harry Potter. That is the long and the short of it. They will address things, and I firmly believe there was always going to be more things dropping as this event went on. But if we continue to treat them like a horrible company, they will start to truly act like one. We will only have ourselves to blame.
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Tbh I agree with on some points you've made. I do not support anyone who wants to verbally abuse the devs. In fact I'm throughly against that. And that is not what I do. I also agree with you that we take the kindness from the devs for granted. The people that I see in the dev livestreams I like. I honestly do. But it's when things that happen in the game or around said game don't reflect the kind image the company gives off is when I have a problem. For example. Last years Halloween event. Now I don't expect you to know what happened because I don't know how long you've been playing but last Halloween a similar thing happened to what is happening now. Unlike the first blight event the amount of free skins had been cut. This obviously isn't good and after much backlash and respectful disagreement they changed it to the way it should have been. Now back then I was fine with this. Because yeah it was a mistake and that happens but the fact is when that happened there weren't graphical updates or massive things happening to excuse that very unethical decision. So that itself is reason why this should not have happened this year. In fact I'd argue that having a quality event should have been priority after last years fiasco if not to please consumers but to up hold their admittedly positive reputation. I want to see this game succeed. I love this game I'm a huge fan but the fact is new fans are actively being turned away from the game purely because of the lack of quality in places and this poor Halloween event which as you said probably should be better considering it's a horror game.
But I find the excuse, they don't have enough resources or their focused on something else somewhat flimsy when you see the sane thing happening last year as well. Plus you must also see that the quality of Halloween skins is as always very damn good. But that shows itself the effort was their but it was lacking.
I'm extremely happy to see that they Hopefully will try and redeem this event. But with a somewhat poor track record in the past and a basic lack of effort put into the biggest event for the game their probably is. You can see why people are angry.
I'm grateful that they are changing things but I'm not grateful that they've seemingly ignored last years events and done the bare minimum again.
I do think the company is one of the nicest companies out there. By miles in fact. But I see them slipping down the rabit whole of greed and laziness that awful companies today show and I very much want dbd and behaviour as a whole to avoid that fate. And I don't think positive comments and buying up every skin they shove out is helping. It hasn't in the past and it isn't now.
I do think people have high standards. Maybe too high. But this game is competing with every other game in 2020. Standards from players are gonna get higher and that won't stop. Dbd needs to keep up. They are no longer a small indie company. They are now in the big league in a way and they have to bring their a game. They make a lot more money then I you believe they do i think. I know it's at least millions. And if that could be put towards making the game better it should.
We shouldn't demonize them I agree. But I will jump up and down on those stairs if it means they put more effort into events. Do things I know they're capable of that space coconut knows their capable of. That we all know they are capable of.
However I agree we should demand for more presents...IF the presents we already have our at a good standard. Which this years event was not.
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We kinda are tbh
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Money. They're not going to tell you how they are a greedy corporation that already has paid dlc in a paid game.
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They can do good things as well, so maybe it'll be a good change.
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speak for yourself I am an angel :) LOL okay I couldn't type that without chuckling
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It's a good change since it will help new players earn a lot of shards. It will give them the needs to buy:
- 1 event cosmetic
- Nearly 1 full green set
- A new character
- 3 shrine perks
The only issues I have now are that:
- People who bought skins now have wasted shards. These should be reimbursed.
- Rift is still just full of charms. What happened to the survey we did 6 months ago?
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You forgot to mention how the older Halloween skins are still only purchasable through Auric Cells.
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The problem is that every year people need to complain. 2 years ago, it was about the vials being separate from killer and survivor and the waiting times for killers being very high. So people complained and they merged the vials so you could play either role and get them all. Last year, they only wanted to give 1 free outfit, people complained again and we got two of them. Now, this year, no free outfits and they were very pricy. People complained, they lowered the cost and we will get daily log in bonus so people can at least get one of these outfits for free. But why keep making mistakes year after year? And worse, only try to fix things if people complain...
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It's not even just that they make mistakes year after year, but that even after said mistakes are "fixed" the event is still worse off than it was the year before. They had a new mechanic and the ability to earn two full outfits in 2018. Then, in 2019 there are no pustula plants and only one earnable outfit; when they altered it due to complaining, we got the second earnable outfit back but the fun event was still heavily neutered to instead focus on the Rift. This year, they offer zero earnable outfits; instead, they put outfits in the store at the expensive price. When people complain, they put them on sale and offer one outfit for free. (Of course, I don't think most of us were asking for a free outfit we get just by logging in; we wanted a reward to work towards by playing the game.) So, the event was originally nonexistent and now after backlash the event is half of what it was last year which was already less than what it was the year before. This is not a good pattern.
As the company grows, shouldn't events get better rather than worse? Wouldn't we usually expect to see a game build on a past event rather than strip it down? Right now, the future looks bleak.
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That is true. Though I can't remember if the event skins from 2 years ago were buyable with event currency or shards last year.
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They weren't. But. You could unlock them with the Serums gained from the latest Halloween event, thus you could unlock them for free if you wanted them more.
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That's what I meant by the event currency. Yea it's a shame they didn't bring back the serum.
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I've recently been wondering if the Rift system would be more enjoyable if they reconfigured the entire thing to work in a similar vein to the Event Currencies of old.
Imagine if you could earn Rift Fragments as a proper currency rather than a "tier up" tool and then could spend them on Rift cosmetics/charms in whatever order you wanted to. The auric cells and the Tier 70 Charm could then be rewards for unlocking everything else during that Rift.
I guess I just miss the Putrid Serum and Golden Coin currency systems where players could unlock things in the order they wanted to. It's annoying to slog through all the charms just to nab a couple of cosmetics that I liked.
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