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Is this really what the devs intended?

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  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Orion said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Orion said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    Looping is necessary, and the people complaining about how it's been in the game forever but still playing the game? I'd have moved on if something so game breaking had stayed so long.

    OMG you are right! i just opened the game description http://www.deadbydaylight.com/en/game/informations/gameplay and there it is under survivor features:

    • run in circles until the killer grows tired of doing so
    • teabag at the exit gates

    Oh look - someone who thinks survivors should run in straight lines so he can get easy wins.

    Please stop putting words into my mouth. I never said that. (sounds familiar?)

    "Looping isn't in the game description" implying it shouldn't be done, camping isn't in the game description either, so killers shouldn't be doing it, obviously.

    There are more things to lose the killer than running in circles.

    Please, tell me the many mechanics to losing the killer, I'm sure you're great at it.

    Devs mentioned camping in the pre release streams.
    They never said anything about running in circles tho.

    Oh, they never mentioned anything about survivors surviving? Are you implying survivors are supposed to do EVERYTHING but run around loops to survive?

    Looping =/= Surviving

    Look, we can go back and forth for hours.
    You claiming that survivors con only survive by looping and i claiming that there are more things like juking, stealth, mindgames, etc.
    You ignoring those things and insisting on looping being the only way, and so on...

    How about we agree to disagree?

    How about you and I agree that he's wrong?

    At this point i´m honestly asking myself if i shouldn´t spend my time doing something more interesting like sort my socks by color.

    Watching paint dry, "playing" one of those free games where you just sit still and have resources automatically come to you to be used...

    Kind of like how you want survivors to automatically be given to you with out effort, rank 17 btw.

    Any other lies you'd like to make up about me?

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Orion said:
    Any other lies you'd like to make up about me?

    Remember that comment you made earlier about me dodging a question that wasn't even there, and then you've completely ignored my reply to that because it made you look stupid and now you're here saying I'm making lies up about you.

    Anyone can read your comment history and see you want everything handed to you.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Orion said:
    Any other lies you'd like to make up about me?

    Remember that comment you made earlier about me dodging a question that wasn't even there, and then you've completely ignored my reply to that because it made you look stupid and now you're here saying I'm making lies up about you.

    Anyone can read your comment history and see you want everything handed to you.

    I meant you were dodging the point, which is evident from the context. I didn't see your reply - yet more lies you make up about me.

    Anyone can read your comment history and see you troll, insult, and lie.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    Looping is necessary, and the people complaining about how it's been in the game forever but still playing the game? I'd have moved on if something so game breaking had stayed so long.

    OMG you are right! i just opened the game description http://www.deadbydaylight.com/en/game/informations/gameplay and there it is under survivor features:

    • run in circles until the killer grows tired of doing so
    • teabag at the exit gates

    Oh look - someone who thinks survivors should run in straight lines so he can get easy wins.

    Please stop putting words into my mouth. I never said that. (sounds familiar?)

    "Looping isn't in the game description" implying it shouldn't be done, camping isn't in the game description either, so killers shouldn't be doing it, obviously.

    There are more things to lose the killer than running in circles.

    Please, tell me the many mechanics to losing the killer, I'm sure you're great at it.

    Devs mentioned camping in the pre release streams.
    They never said anything about running in circles tho.

    Oh, they never mentioned anything about survivors surviving? Are you implying survivors are supposed to do EVERYTHING but run around loops to survive?

    Looping =/= Surviving

    Look, we can go back and forth for hours.
    You claiming that survivors con only survive by looping and i claiming that there are more things like juking, stealth, mindgames, etc.
    You ignoring those things and insisting on looping being the only way, and so on...

    How about we agree to disagree?

    Please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say it's the only way to survive at all - but complaining about something that is in the game and literally cannot be removed is ridiculous.

    You mean like you complained about camping?
    And it sure as hell can be removed.

    I would love for you to quote me complaining about camping and requesting it to be removed.

    And it sure as hell can be removed.

    Oh god - please, give me all the feedback you have on this, I would love to hear your unbiased way of getting rid of looping that doesn't harm survivors drastically, please, I need to hear this balanced nerf of yours.

    Well, since you asked so nicely and not sarcastically at all...
    Make killers and survivors hitbox the same. 
    Implement a noob tutorial on how to juke. 
    There are some nice YouTube videos for that.
    How to mindgame, how to actually use the crouch key for something else than teabagging.
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Orion said:
    I meant you were dodging the point, which is evident from the context. I didn't see your reply - yet more lies you make up about me

    you've replied to every comment except that one, somehow, lol.

    Anyone can read your comment history and see you troll, insult, and lie.

    I don't troll at all, the majority of killers in this forum are very clearly awful at this game and beg for every possible buff.

    I don't at all insult, i tell people to get better, that isn't insulting, the sheer amount of "omg looping" when most people would just break the pallet and continue the chase shows how poorly they play this game.

    Also, making assumptions (Like assuming you skipped my reply because you've NEVER missed a reply I've made to you, except this one, of course, because you made stuff up in it) are not lies.

    I don't troll, my opinion doesn't sort yours, just play better, I'm sure you'll get out of rank 17 soon.
    I don't insult, it's the truth - people are bad at this game and blame mechanics heavily instead of themselves, they overestimate their own skill

    Assumptions are not lies.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525
    edited September 2018

    @Tsulan said:
    And it sure as hell can be removed.

    Are you forreal? Ahaha screenshot it man, It's not hard (as of making this post I have 527 comments, it certainly won't be removed, but yea - you can't quote me so you'd rather say I'd just deleted the proof) That's hilarious.

    Well, since you asked so nicely and not sarcastically at all...
    Make killers and survivors hitbox the same. 
    Implement a noob tutorial on how to juke. 
    There are some nice YouTube videos for that.
    How to mindgame, how to actually use the crouch key for something else than teabagging.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

    Yea dude - this totally fixes the "looping" problem.

    Yea, sure - make the hitboxes the same i don't really care about this, killers will still whine.

    Implement a noob tutorial on how to juke, unfortunately some killers are actually good at this game and simply holding crouch behind a box doesn't help, also bloodlust, where if the chase unfortunately lasts more than 15 seconds they're on your ass pretty consistently, but yea dude, I totally agree, just hold the crouch button, LOL.

  • HookedonDemand
    HookedonDemand Member Posts: 181

    I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @HookedonDemand said:
    I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p

    This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

    "Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

    Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    S0ckenSchuss said:

    @SovererignKing said:
    The hell? So it’s the Killers fault and they should be punished for doing exactly what they are supposed to do? 

    I dont know what you have read, but IF you chase a guy for 5 gens and dont get a kill, the hell yeah its the killers fault. why dont you understand that a looper you cant reach, is a waste of time? you dont have time as a killer, we all know that. so if i am not able to reacht a good juker, i change my target. another surv, that is less good in juking. down him, hook him, gain points for him, kick gen back and so on. maybe the good juker will come to unhook, and then you ahve another chance to get him. and if not, there are two others left to hang. what will you prefer? chasing someon over 5 gens and get 0 kills and flame in forum to the devs to change that? or kill at least 3 other survs, get the points for them? cant be that difficult, isnt it?

    Do tell why it’s alright for a Survivor to be so strong in the chase they even have the option? Looping is not juking, your not losing the Killer, you’re just stalling them. Also, what do you do when everyone is just like the first dude?
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said:
    I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p

    This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

    "Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

    Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).

    Oh yes, enlighten me on the holy counter to looping. 
    I promise I won't laugh like you did.
  • HookedonDemand
    HookedonDemand Member Posts: 181

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said:
    I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p

    This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

    "Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

    Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).

    That's what the internet does. Even though people often state that this "community" or forum is especially toxic, it's really everywhere. No manners, insults, generalizing and a complete unwillingness to concede anything. It's a shoutbox of negativity. :'(

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    Stealth is my favorite way to play this game. But i seldom encounter a killer who doesn´t have at least 2 aura-reading perks. My last game was against a nurse with calling, b&c, Whispers and Murmur...

    Yeah, stealth brings you really forward in this game. The thing is: i can´t do chases very well, one of the reasons is i don´t loop. And juking only works 50% of the time, because juking is no secret unknown to killers.

    So, should i just stop playing the game? Stealth is no real option against all those aura-reading perks, looping is an exploit, so what is a survivor supposed to do?

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @sulaiman said:
    Stealth is my favorite way to play this game. But i seldom encounter a killer who doesn´t have at least 2 aura-reading perks. My last game was against a nurse with calling, b&c, Whispers and Murmur...

    Yeah, stealth brings you really forward in this game. The thing is: i can´t do chases very well, one of the reasons is i don´t loop. And juking only works 50% of the time, because juking is no secret unknown to killers.

    So, should i just stop playing the game? Stealth is no real option against all those aura-reading perks, looping is an exploit, so what is a survivor supposed to do?

    Stealth is not just hiding, juking and mindgames are part of stealth as well.

  • HookedonDemand
    HookedonDemand Member Posts: 181

    @sulaiman said:
    Stealth is my favorite way to play this game. But i seldom encounter a killer who doesn´t have at least 2 aura-reading perks. My last game was against a nurse with calling, b&c, Whispers and Murmur...

    Yeah, stealth brings you really forward in this game. The thing is: i can´t do chases very well, one of the reasons is i don´t loop. And juking only works 50% of the time, because juking is no secret unknown to killers.

    So, should i just stop playing the game? Stealth is no real option against all those aura-reading perks, looping is an exploit, so what is a survivor supposed to do?

    Looping is not an exploit, people have very passionate arguments about it, but it's not an exploit.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said:

    I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p

    This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

    "Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

    Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).

    Oh yes, enlighten me on the holy counter to looping. 
    I promise I won't laugh like you did.

    You break the pallet.
    You use perks that assist you with looping
    You bloodlust
    You play a killer you're actually good at
    You stop focusing that one survivor even when you pass other survivors.

    Here's a clip of me complaining about something that has been happening for ages.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSleepyWaterOSsloth

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @HookedonDemand said:

    @sulaiman said:
    Stealth is my favorite way to play this game. But i seldom encounter a killer who doesn´t have at least 2 aura-reading perks. My last game was against a nurse with calling, b&c, Whispers and Murmur...

    Yeah, stealth brings you really forward in this game. The thing is: i can´t do chases very well, one of the reasons is i don´t loop. And juking only works 50% of the time, because juking is no secret unknown to killers.

    So, should i just stop playing the game? Stealth is no real option against all those aura-reading perks, looping is an exploit, so what is a survivor supposed to do?

    Looping is not an exploit, people have very passionate arguments about it, but it's not an exploit.

    Shhhh, don't tell them it's part of the game.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said:

    I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p

    This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

    "Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

    Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).

    Oh yes, enlighten me on the holy counter to looping. 
    I promise I won't laugh like you did.

    You break the pallet.
    You use perks that assist you with looping
    You bloodlust
    You play a killer you're actually good at
    You stop focusing that one survivor even when you pass other survivors.

    Here's a clip of me complaining about something that has been happening for ages.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSleepyWaterOSsloth

    I'm still waiting for that holy counter.
    Looping happens before the pallet drops btw. Every killer who's worth his salt, knows that. 
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited September 2018

    Pallet looping is an exploit.

    How do you counter Freddy?

    You pallet loop him.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said:

I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue !  :p



This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

"Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).



Oh yes, enlighten me on the holy counter to looping. 

    I promise I won't laugh like you did.

    You break the pallet.

    You use perks that assist you with looping

    You bloodlust

    You play a killer you're actually good at

    You stop focusing that one survivor even when you pass other survivors.

    Here's a clip of me complaining about something that has been happening for ages.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSleepyWaterOSsloth

    I'm still waiting for that holy counter.
    Looping happens before the pallet drops btw. Every killer who's worth his salt, knows that. 

    "holy counter" oh so you want something that's overpowered and unbeatable, it wont happen, eat the pallet and carry on, it's not hard. I truly believe you must not be very good at this game.

    So you admit that there are no counters to looping?
    Unlike camping, which has several counters. Like DS or BT for example?
  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146

    laughs in nurse

  • Silas
    Silas Member Posts: 307
    Socks said:

    In addition, what kind of chase is expected to last almost a minute?


  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    edited September 2018
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said:

I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue !  :p



This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill

"Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee".

Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners).



Oh yes, enlighten me on the holy counter to looping. 

    I promise I won't laugh like you did.

    You break the pallet.

    You use perks that assist you with looping

    You bloodlust

    You play a killer you're actually good at

    You stop focusing that one survivor even when you pass other survivors.

    Here's a clip of me complaining about something that has been happening for ages.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSleepyWaterOSsloth

    I'm still waiting for that holy counter.
    Looping happens before the pallet drops btw. Every killer who's worth his salt, knows that. 

    "holy counter" oh so you want something that's overpowered and unbeatable, it wont happen, eat the pallet and carry on, it's not hard. I truly believe you must not be very good at this game.

    Huntress hatchet's if you see them going to loop or drop time your throw for the drop so they don't move as you throw
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

SenzuDuck said:

    @HookedonDemand said: I find your petty bickering highly amusing. Please continue ! :p This is my favourite part of the day when I have some time to kill "Hurr durr just remove looping it's simpleeeeeeee". Mostly everyone on this forum that complains about something they don't like or haven't figured out how to counter just need to get better at this game (survivors and killers alike, they're all whiners). Oh yes, enlighten me on the holy counter to looping. 

    I promise I won't laugh like you did.



You break the pallet.

You use perks that assist you with looping

You bloodlust

You play a killer you're actually good at

You stop focusing that one survivor even when you pass other survivors.

Here's a clip of me complaining about something that has been happening for ages.

https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSleepyWaterOSsloth



I'm still waiting for that holy counter.

    Looping happens before the pallet drops btw. Every killer who's worth his salt, knows that. 

    "holy counter" oh so you want something that's overpowered and unbeatable, it wont happen, eat the pallet and carry on, it's not hard. I truly believe you must not be very good at this game.

    So you admit that there are no counters to looping?

    You play the game, because it's part of it, that's how you counter it, you play around it. I don't understand what you want, you can literally play the game, thousands of people counter looping every day but you can't grasp that,

    Bloodlust (which was added to counter loops like are you not getting that)
    Perks (Some counter looping ONE WAS EVEN ADDED WITH THE NEW KILLER)
    Play A Killer You're Good At

    Unlike camping, which has several counters. Like DS or BT for example?

    D Strike (Which is getting nerfed btw, thank [BAD WORD]) as a counter for camping? What do you smoke.
    BT - If you're camping, you hit the one coming in, and then you hit them again as you should be recovered by the time they've unhooked.

    ALSO - why are we talking about camping, which I know can't be removed from the game, [BAD WORD] lol.

    But no, hurrr durr, despite all this lets change the subject and talk about camping despite me never asking for it to be removed.

    Look, i promised i wouldn´t laugh, but those "counters" are just ridiculous. Just admit that there are no counters. That Myers can´t do anything to counter looping. (just to name 1 killer).
    Also your logic of "thousands of people counter looping every day" could apply to camping. So camping no problem?

    Really, you have failed to proof anything but behave like you won a loop or anything. I already offered you to agree to disagree. Please stop making a fool out of yourself. Because you invalidate my comments by laughting. Very mature btw.
    Let´s just end this ridiculous "discussion" here.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Look, i promised i wouldn´t laugh, but those "counters" are just ridiculous. Just admit that there are no counters. That Myers can´t do anything to counter looping. (just to name 1 killer).
    Also your logic of "thousands of people counter looping every day" could apply to camping. So camping no problem?

    You honestly have serious issues. I've stated several times now that I have no issue with camping, you can't do anything about it and I play around it because It's part of the game, whats your obsession?

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Really, you have failed to proof anything but behave like you won a loop or anything. I already offered you to agree to disagree. Please stop making a fool out of yourself. Because you invalidate my comments by laughing. Very mature btw.

    Except, if you're actually a good killer "looping" doesn't affect you in 8/10 matches, it's part of the game, you can't get rid of it, just like you can't get rid of camping ( WHICH HOPEFULLY YOU CAN READ THIS, I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH).
    of course I laugh at you - I play this game and do absolutely fine, when there is an issue it's usually a mistake I've made as a killer, I don't have to pretend it's mechanics because I know I ######### up.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/311618921?t=02h53m30s

    Oh look - if you watch this game, it shows a killer doing poorly to chase me, so I BM him, then give him the down and he camps me, if you listen you can hear how angry I am when he camps. LOL.

    But yea, hurr durr here we are again talking about camping that I'm absolutely not asking for to be removed.

    There is really no arguing with you... sigh
    Oh and Myers doesn´t get a speed bonus or anything when he´s EW3. He just has a slightly longer lounge.
    Maybe you should play him.

    I warned you that this would go on and on. But you seem to be bored.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    oh god... the big looping debate continues.....

    There seems to be quite allot of players that seem to do ok with survivors looping.. There seems to be quite a bit of high rank killers...

    Is it maybe not everyone is supposed to climb the ladder to the top? That there just might be better players out there?

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @TheBean said:
    oh god... the big looping debate continues.....

    There seems to be quite allot of players that seem to do ok with survivors looping.. There seems to be quite a bit of high rank killers...

    Is it maybe not everyone is supposed to climb the ladder to the top? That there just might be better players out there?

    Wait... are you implying that i´m a low rank killer?

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @TheBean said:
    oh god... the big looping debate continues.....

    There seems to be quite allot of players that seem to do ok with survivors looping.. There seems to be quite a bit of high rank killers...

    Is it maybe not everyone is supposed to climb the ladder to the top? That there just might be better players out there?

    I agree - some people are just not ever going to be good at this game - but lets cater to those and remove every obstacle in the game instead of people learning their ways around these things.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Tsulan @SenzuDuck u mind to summarize the whole discussion so i can participate as well? :P
    I could swear this has been a thing for long xD
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525
    edited September 2018

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Look, i promised i wouldn´t laugh, but those "counters" are just ridiculous. Just admit that there are no counters. That Myers can´t do anything to counter looping. (just to name 1 killer).
    Also your logic of "thousands of people counter looping every day" could apply to camping. So camping no problem?

    You honestly have serious issues. I've stated several times now that I have no issue with camping, you can't do anything about it and I play around it because It's part of the game, whats your obsession?

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Really, you have failed to proof anything but behave like you won a loop or anything. I already offered you to agree to disagree. Please stop making a fool out of yourself. Because you invalidate my comments by laughing. Very mature btw.

    Except, if you're actually a good killer "looping" doesn't affect you in 8/10 matches, it's part of the game, you can't get rid of it, just like you can't get rid of camping ( WHICH HOPEFULLY YOU CAN READ THIS, I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH).
    of course I laugh at you - I play this game and do absolutely fine, when there is an issue it's usually a mistake I've made as a killer, I don't have to pretend it's mechanics because I know I ######### up.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/311618921?t=02h53m30s

    Oh look - if you watch this game, it shows a killer doing poorly to chase me, so I BM him, then give him the down and he camps me, if you listen you can hear how angry I am when he camps. LOL.

    But yea, hurr durr here we are again talking about camping that I'm absolutely not asking for to be removed.

    There is really no arguing with you... sigh
    Oh and Myers doesn´t get a speed bonus or anything when he´s EW3. He just has a slightly longer lounge.
    Maybe you should play him.

    I warned you that this would go on and on. But you seem to be bored.

    He literally vaults windows faster in EW3 - but no, no speed boosts or anything to counter looping.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Vietfox said:
    @Tsulan @SenzuDuck u mind to summarize the whole discussion so i can participate as well? :P
    I could swear this has been a thing for long xD

    Looping is no problem, because Myers turns into road runner.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Look, i promised i wouldn´t laugh, but those "counters" are just ridiculous. Just admit that there are no counters. That Myers can´t do anything to counter looping. (just to name 1 killer).
    Also your logic of "thousands of people counter looping every day" could apply to camping. So camping no problem?

    You honestly have serious issues. I've stated several times now that I have no issue with camping, you can't do anything about it and I play around it because It's part of the game, whats your obsession?

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Really, you have failed to proof anything but behave like you won a loop or anything. I already offered you to agree to disagree. Please stop making a fool out of yourself. Because you invalidate my comments by laughing. Very mature btw.

    Except, if you're actually a good killer "looping" doesn't affect you in 8/10 matches, it's part of the game, you can't get rid of it, just like you can't get rid of camping ( WHICH HOPEFULLY YOU CAN READ THIS, I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH).
    of course I laugh at you - I play this game and do absolutely fine, when there is an issue it's usually a mistake I've made as a killer, I don't have to pretend it's mechanics because I know I ######### up.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/311618921?t=02h53m30s

    Oh look - if you watch this game, it shows a killer doing poorly to chase me, so I BM him, then give him the down and he camps me, if you listen you can hear how angry I am when he camps. LOL.

    But yea, hurr durr here we are again talking about camping that I'm absolutely not asking for to be removed.

    There is really no arguing with you... sigh
    Oh and Myers doesn´t get a speed bonus or anything when he´s EW3. He just has a slightly longer lounge.
    Maybe you should play him.

    I warned you that this would go on and on. But you seem to be bored.

    He literally vaults windows faster in EW3 - but no, no speed boosts or anything to counter looping.

    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Tsulan said:
    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Is what I said, I worded it poorly but I also didn't say he moves faster either.
    He gets a lunge that's long AF which should counter the elusive loop gap.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited September 2018

    @Vietfox said:
    @Tsulan @SenzuDuck u mind to summarize the whole discussion so i can participate as well? :P
    I could swear this has been a thing for long xD

    Basically:

    @Tsulan - Pallet looping has no counters.

    @SenzuDuck - You can play around pallet looping.

    I'm just laughing at people who think it's an exploit.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    edited September 2018
    @Tsulan
    Well, i guess looping isnt such a "problem" as before since devs redesigned the map.
    About Myers, not everyone runs Myers and there are better killers who counter looping.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Is what I said, I worded it poorly but I also didn't say he moves faster either.
    He gets a lunge that's long AF which should counter the elusive loop gap.

    As i said, he turns into road runner.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @Vietfox said:
    @Tsulan @SenzuDuck u mind to summarize the whole discussion so i can participate as well? :P
    I could swear this has been a thing for long xD

    Basically:

    @Tsulan - Pallet looping has no counters.

    @SenzuDuck - You can play around pallet looping.

    I'm just laughing at people who think it's an exploit.

    Which you can play around looping, if it was impossible to beat no killer would ever have kills but heck - it's impossible to counter.

    Mc_Harty, you're the best, by the way.
    I just wish I knew why he keeps bringing up camping :(

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @Vietfox said:
    @Tsulan @SenzuDuck u mind to summarize the whole discussion so i can participate as well? :P
    I could swear this has been a thing for long xD

    Basically:

    @Tsulan - Pallet looping has no counters.

    @SenzuDuck - You can play around pallet looping.

    I'm just laughing at people who think it's an exploit.

    It´s not an exploit. I find it just a poor design decision. The game is so much more fun for everyone, when the survivor knows how to juke. How to mindgame the killer. But running in circles is simply as boring as camping.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Is what I said, I worded it poorly but I also didn't say he moves faster either.
    He gets a lunge that's long AF which should counter the elusive loop gap.

    As i said, he turns into road runner.

    This post essentially makes it look like you also want Myers buffed as well as "removing loops". I think you need to come to terms with just being very good. buff this for me, buff this for me, buff this for me, remove this for survivors tho.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Is what I said, I worded it poorly but I also didn't say he moves faster either.
    He gets a lunge that's long AF which should counter the elusive loop gap.

    As i said, he turns into road runner.

    This post essentially makes it look like you also want Myers buffed as well as "removing loops". I think you need to come to terms with just being very good. buff this for me, buff this for me, buff this for me, remove this for survivors tho.

    Please stop putting words into my mouth.
    I never said that Myers needs a buff or anything.
    I literally said "he turns into road runner".

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Is what I said, I worded it poorly but I also didn't say he moves faster either.
    He gets a lunge that's long AF which should counter the elusive loop gap.

    As i said, he turns into road runner.

    This post essentially makes it look like you also want Myers buffed as well as "removing loops". I think you need to come to terms with just being very good. buff this for me, buff this for me, buff this for me, remove this for survivors tho.

    Please stop putting words into my mouth.
    I never said that Myers needs a buff or anything.
    I literally said "he turns into road runner".

    But hes sooooooo slow, he can't counter loops at all :( please make him stronger so he can counter loops, pleaseeeeeeeee.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Vaulting =/= Running speed.

    Myers has an insta down that makes him super fast, again - you're clearly just poor at playing him so clearly he can't do anything.

    Is what I said, I worded it poorly but I also didn't say he moves faster either.
    He gets a lunge that's long AF which should counter the elusive loop gap.

    As i said, he turns into road runner.

    This post essentially makes it look like you also want Myers buffed as well as "removing loops". I think you need to come to terms with just being very good. buff this for me, buff this for me, buff this for me, remove this for survivors tho.

    Please stop putting words into my mouth.
    I never said that Myers needs a buff or anything.
    I literally said "he turns into road runner".

    But hes sooooooo slow, he can't counter loops at all :( please make him stronger so he can counter loops, pleaseeeeeeeee.

    I repeat: please stop putting words into my mouth
    Or is this your opinion?

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Vietfox said:
    @Tsulan @SenzuDuck u mind to summarize the whole discussion so i can participate as well? :P
    I could swear this has been a thing for long xD

    Basically, Tsulan thinks looping can be removed (lol), and instead of giving us his incredible information and feedback of how we remove looping, he instead wants to discussing camping because, well... I really have no idea.

    Basically, in this thread - killers want it easy, they want to counter looping without using perks to counter it because "why should we have too".

    @SenzuDuck
    If camping is ok so is looping.
    Counter without using perks (or even addons) shouldn't be a thing. I a killer can counter that without those things imagine how broken would be the killer with perks (and addons)
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Tsulan said:
    I repeat: please stop putting words into my mouth
    Or is this your opinion?

    Sorry - let's go back to camping and pretend I have an issue with it.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    @Tsulan said:

    Wait... are you implying that i´m a low rank killer?

    I'm implying people just deal with it, like other players and not everyone should be expected to be rank 1 or win most of their games. Maybe they are setting the bar too high for themselves, or think they are playing better then they are. Then they face some players who just plain out play them over and over. Then realization that maybe they aren't as good as they thought they were sets in.