Question to red/purple rank killers/survivors
New player here (250 hours). I play mostly 70% survivor and 30% killer.
When I play survivor the matches are usually evenly matched, currently rank 8 (although I think skill wise I should be green)
However, like many in the forums when playing killer (rank 13) I go up against mostly red ranks, needless to say I get destroyed. No matter how much I try to pressure gens they are always working on one.
Even when they know I'm a newbie they still bang them out like their lives depended on it. Some games I don't even get a hook. (Do survivors pip if noone saves someone from the hook?)
My question to the survivors are these games fun for you? I like escaping from the killer too but I like to get some unhooks, I love the suspense when you escape on your second hook as it actually feels like a horror game.
My question to the killers is how did you get past the green ranks? I've watched a couple of famous streamers etc. I have gen regression perks such as Ruin/Corrupt however they never appear in my blood web :( is it even possible to beat tryhard red survivors without any gen regression perks? The only way I can beat them if is I play dirty (tunnel off hook/NOED/Mori)
To console killers: Could you share what sensitivity you play at?
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Survivors varied from each other. There the looper, altruistic, beginner and the objective type. If you see someone good at looping don't chase them. Go after the weakest link and be sure to keep at the pressure. It also depends on your go to killer. You're gonna need to do a bunch of slugging to keep them occupied to win against tryhards.Why do you wanna reach red ranks ? It filled with people being entitled and complainers.
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Thanks, I usually stop chasing after a minute or I hear a nearby gen being worked on.
I prefer playing stealth killers but spine chill renders them useless :(
My main problem is I rarely do slug I always have the urge to hook them after I down them.
I actually don't want to become a red rank killer (too stressful), however I seem to face the same survivors as a red rank killer would. 😅
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You can abuse spinechill by approaching the gen with your camera on an angel if you suspect they have it. As for getting passed green, I'm not sure what to tell you. It'd help if we knew what part of the game you're struggling with. Is it looping, gen protection, finding people?
I play around 1-3 and don't always use gen protection perks, but it def makes the game considerably harder. Your best bet there is to snowball very hard, very early, and keep the pressure up. I.e Play infectious fright nurse and slug. Though some games like this are unwinnable when you start running into the really good teams.
My advice though is to just take it slow, learn the game, and not worry about ranking up. The game changes a lot at red, and not always for the better. Green/purple is generally thought to be the most fun.
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Embrace slugging. Its best to do when you have another target close by. Headset is mandatory listen out for audio clues they can be buggy but you will be suprised how decent hearing skills can help.
You need the right gen regression on the right killers ruin is not gonna be that great on clown or myers however its fantastic on high mobility killers. A small tip low mobility corrupt, high mpbility ruin. If you have hex undying that can make ruin even better.
Understand that certain killers are terrible when your getting experiance on killers. I highly advise sticking to high mobility killers since they will give you the most experiance. Billy, spirit, freddy immediatly comes to mind. Each killer has a lot of trap add ons that are just terrible pay attention you arent including garbage into your build. Some have potential but you will need specific perks and setups to utilise them.
Next rule never ever let your ego trap you in a bad chase. If someones teabagging after looping you for a bit nod and move on to a different target. Map knowledge is hard because its all experiance do not chase in certain zones you know are difficult. For example disturbed wards middle building is a bad time for pretty much every killer. If you name a killer I can start pointing you to optimum builds and advice for how to play since most killers have there own list of do's and don'ts
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Don't worry about ranking up--once you rank up the only thing you want to do is rank down.
As for me, when I play survivor and the killer does poorly, while I would love to actually play with them and get chased a while and even throw them some hooks, I generally don't trust a bad killer not to camp me on first hook in a desperate attempt to get a 1k.
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You can abuse spinechill by approaching the gen with your camera on an angel if you suspect they have it. As for getting passed green, I'm not sure what to tell you. It'd help if we knew what part of the game you're struggling with. Is it looping, gen protection, finding people?
I would say my weakest part is gen protection without any gen regression perks and all the survivors being decent it's GG, I'm not bad at finding people unless it's P3 blendette 🤨
Your best bet there is to snowball very hard, very early, and keep the pressure up
Thanks I'll try slugging some more
Play infectious fright nurse and slug.
I'm probably the weakest nurse in this game 😥
My advice though is to just take it slow, learn the game, and not worry about ranking up.
Thanks your right. I would probably wait for rank reset if I hit purple
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Thanks I'll try slugging some more to keep up the pressure.
you will be suprised how decent hearing skills can help.
I know I can never find the blendettes without listening lol.
A small tip low mobility corrupt, high mpbility ruin. If you have hex undying that can make ruin even better.
Noted! I don't have undying yet, I usually play low mobility so I'm waiting for corrupt to pop up in the BW.
I highly advise sticking to high mobility killers since they will give you the most experiance. Billy, spirit, freddy immediatly comes to mind.
I do like Hillbilly's one hit down, might give him a go again
Next rule never ever let your ego trap you in a bad chase. If someones teabagging after looping you for a bit nod and move on to a different target.
I rarely chase for longer than necessary, also used to the BMing although I admit if I catch them off guard 😏
If you name a killer I can start pointing you to optimum builds and advice for how to play since most killers have there own list of do's and don'ts
I try to play with all the killers but I mostly like playing the stealth killers (Ghostface, Myers, Pig)
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Thanks, I definitely don't think I'd be able to handle multiple games at red rank 😅
I understand getting camped by the killer for the 1K, we've all been there! I don't find camping fun so I don't do it unless I see another survivor close by.
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I have roughly same hours, ranks, and experience the same (albeit my killer/survivor ratio is inverse of yours).
I suspect that why green killers are matched against red and purple survivors so frequently, is:
A) There simply are insufficient numbers of red killers playing, so the system escalates to adding them to red/purple survivor matches, so as to populate that match. Red killers simply stop playing as much, when they constantly go up against red SWF survivors, where the odds are heavily in their favor.
B) Also, survivor friends joining a match together skews the matchmaking algorithm by forcing those slots to be allocated for those friends (and thus excluding solo players of green rank from populating that list vs a green killer). Sometimes the system seems to allocate as an "average" among survivors ranks vs killer rank, but not often.
C) As to how killers have gotten over this hump/deadland into red ranks, I think most of them that have done so, did so previously in a time in the games population demographics, when they went up against green/purple survivors respectively, and thus "naturally" progressed into red killer, and they havent lost so many matches since that they would have down-pipped back out of red.
TLDR: Imo, the matchmaking system should strictly match survivors/killers ONLY of nigh equivalent rank. Yes, that would mean that red SWF survivors (or solo) would have to wait far longer for a match, but this would naturalize itself, as instead if they play their red killers (which should generate match quickly), it will thus facilitate more red vs red matches for ALL of red rank.
So instead of pandering to red survivors to get fast matches (unfairly vs non-red killers), FORCE them to either wait longer for a match, or play their red killer, which thus makes it possible for red vs red matches, for all.
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I can understand that there is an insufficient numbers of red killers playing, even more so at night when you often get matched with SWFs with over 2K hours. 😅
I would be very happy to wait more if the system gives me an even match, even if it's +5/-5 of your current rank.
I've also experienced the same from survivor side my teammates are green/yellow and the killer is a red rank, after that the next match is what I usually get paired up with a green rank killer. 🤔
Another issue I would like fixed is the SWF that purposely brings in a yellow rank so they can go against newbies. It should give them a killer based on the higher ranked survivor.
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Yeah, red rank isn't fun for anyone. Both the killers and the survivors agree that red ranks are the worst to play at. The matches are boring & sweaty.
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Red should be matched against red. Period.
It is far worse when reds are matched on either killer or survivor side, into non-red matches.
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