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Im not playing verse victor, period.
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I'm talking about a specific scenario where someone is hit by Victor while healthy, he latches onto them, and they choose not to remove him to deny Charlotte her power (for at least 45 seconds), and Charlotte chooses to leave Victor on the Survivor and continues onward. Not how Charlotte and Victor are overall. I feel like we are arguing over different topics.
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perhaps we are but im just saying that with the time you took to do that and the results that follow afterward it makes charlotte bad. if a survivor holds victor they are disabled but it's worth it simply look at some clips in the ptb where victor was on a survivor for the entire game. even if it's at 50+ second intervals your still losing your power only after one hit (add the regenerate time plus time it takes to get victor on someone else).
And yes you can down a survivor who is injured but the optimal way to verse this killer is to stick in pairs if survivors do that your only good option the majority of the time is to hit the healthy survivor otherwise you get crushed and the downed survivor gets picked up.
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I'm not trying to argue whether Charlotte is good or bad overall. I simply believe that the hostage plan is bad.
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the twins are so bad they have so many counter play just go into a locker
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I don't recall how quickly she can call him forth after he is kicked/crushed, but that is not how I understood the (5) seconds used in context. I understood that as frustration and the poster saying that Victor would be back on the Survivor (5) seconds later.
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I think you're the first person I've seen on either side who likes how The Twins are performing. Crazy!
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but its not you make the killer a m1 killer for 1 survivor on standby
just look at the ptb bruh
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There is always one. Everyone else is calling this killer mega weak. No one is having a problem against them. The twins are a joke right now
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I did. The few times it was attempted against me ended in disaster for them.
We may just have to agree to disagree here.
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people are still learning how to face the twins, i played them for a good 20 matches and in a few survivors knew what to do and stomped me.
i think you overestimating them mate the amount of counter play you have against them is insane if the survivors do it. otherwise she is a b tier killer against survivors not knowing how to play against her.
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I don't think you can say "It works; look at the PTB" and "Oh, well people are still learning the ropes" when I tell you that my PTB experiences contradict what you claim.
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then all i can say is your not getting good survivors because im by no means bad and even in games where i was landing the majority of my pounces survivors were doing just fine with gens because they kept up with heals, held onto victor, and did decent in a chase.
i can legit do just as good with wraith or even better then with the twins against survivors who are not used to her. if she was actually good she would be doing better rn since survivors are not used to her when there is so much counter play/things you can do to hinder her.
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Oh yeah, well that's definitely not going to happen, agreed :)
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I'm sure there will be an update in the near future that adjusts some of the new killer's stuff, there always is.
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Sorry friendo. I play red rank survivor solo que a lot (and killer but not important) and I have to say I love playing against the twins.
I love being able to dodge Victor, without dead hard, and kicking him in the face lol. It's def a tough match and one that involves a lot of counter slug play. Might be an actual killer to run no mither on. We'll see!
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Not a fan of playing against him. Have yet to play "verse" him.
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Are y'all seriously complaining about The Twins?
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It takes more than 2 days to learn counterplays, have some patience my dude.
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I have played against this killer maybe 10 times so far. Most games went fine, the killer is pretty hard and they racked up a decent amount of kills. In at least 2 games the camp and tunnel game was so obnoxious everyone just bounced, either DC or hook suicide. With this killer there is a huge opportunity for abusive toxicity. Basically at the upper echelon of ridiculous this killer can simultaneously camp, tunnel and slug the trifecta of toxic all rolled into one.
I did find Victor was pretty easy to juke when he lunges so could keep him in a chase for a decent amount of time, but considering his speed that is good. I also thought he should not be able to down multiple people without being "reeled in" 1st. Even if they made the pulling him back action faster, that would be fine.
I assume the OP has had to endure killers who discovered this camp/tunnel loophole early on and are exploiting it to high heaven. In that case I understand his sentiment completely and even agree with his tactics on how he plans to deal with it. Really I think we will find that we will get used to this killer, some changes may be made, and everything will even out.
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