Hex:Ruin on Doctor?
I play all killers and I know exactly what build to use in every killer. However, with the Doctor (and the Pig) I'm constantly changing the build I use but I don't seem to figure out what to run on him. Actually I'm running:
- Ruin
- Distressing or Nurses Calling
- Unnerving Presence (to counter DS)
- BBQ&C (not necessary the best perk on him but I want the extra BP)
I'm considering taking out Ruin on some killers because sometimes it doesn't even last 20 seconds on the match. I already take Ruin out of my Nurse and Billy and now I'm considering taking out Ruin of the Doctor too. So my question is if do you think it's viable playing Doctor on high ranks without Ruin? Taking into account that I don't like to play defensive or the boring 3 gen strat. Thanks for your suggestions 
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On every Killer I use kind of a gimmick build. It is just for bloodpoints. BBQ, Distressing, ToTH, and Ruin so I have an actual chance of pipping.
If you are a good enough Killer this build can work with Freddy. Ruin is the only thing that holds it together, though.
For a more casual player, though, I would suggest using Distressing, Brutal Strength, Make Your Choice, and Ruin. Just make sure that you use the add-on for doctor illusions at madness II.
On Pig however, her add-ons change her playstyle so much that I could not list every single perk+addon build I have found for her. Luckily, most of them explain themselves. There are 2 that I should give you tips on because they took me a while to figure out, though.
1. Don't try skillcheck builds for the boxes at high ranks. Rank 1's never miss.2. Amanda's Secret + Rusty Attachments & Ruin, Distressing, Make Your Choice, Coulrophobia(Clown's new perk that slows healing in your terror radius). This build plays a large mind game on the survivors. When unhooking a trapped victim, the trapped survivor must decide if they want to waste a lot of time on their timer to get healed, or run straight to a Jigsaw box. If they choose to run, then they will be running around the map injured and once they get the trap off you will see their aura for 6 seconds and be able to go to them(preferably, crouch once within about 40 meters of them). This does take a large skill level to know where they will be running to, but you will get the hang of it. It they choose to be healed, then not only will their timer be ticking down for chance of a head pop, but the exposed rescuer from Make Your Choice is also just sitting there healing the trapped victim. Both can be 1 shot!
This hopefully shows you something - The Pig actually has a much higher skill cap than you would think she does. I even surprised myself with how good I got with her.
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I wouldn't recommend removing Ruin from most killer builds in the current state.
Even if it lasts only 1 min in the match, it already possibly extended the duration of the match by 15-30% by reducing the early gen repair wave. Not to mention it becomes way harder to repair in the mid to late game due to the fact that you gotta deal with people that you have to save as well.And Doctor makes no exception. Actually, it's even more necessary on him for a simple reason :
Playing against Doc is a RACE against time, since Doctor WILL find you quickly and will chase someone at all time or nearly due to his detection power or add-ons. So the longer the round is, the more efficient he is.1 -
I don't recommend removing ruin from any of your builds as it's a must if you are in rank 1 !!!nikodelpino said:I play all killers and I know exactly what build to use in every killer. However, with the Doctor (and the Pig) I'm constantly changing the build I use but I don't seem to figure out what to run on him. Actually I'm running:
- Ruin
- Distressing or Nurses Calling
- Unnerving Presence (to counter DS)
- BBQ&C (not necessary the best perk on him but I want the extra BP)
I'm considering taking out Ruin on some killers because sometimes it doesn't even last 20 seconds on the match. I already take Ruin out of my Nurse and Billy and now I'm considering taking out Ruin of the Doctor too. So my question is if do you think it's viable playing Doctor on high ranks without Ruin? Taking into account that I don't like to play defensive or the boring 3 gen strat. Thanks for your suggestions
And my build as doctor is : BBQ , ruin , thrill of hunt , unnerving presence , to be mentioned I get 4k almost 99% of the time with this build and the trick is to protect ruin with thrill of hunt . believe me survivors will swarm into your mighty hands XD0 -
I'll take Ruin off sometimes, but it's kinda of a gamble. Ruin is just there to buy you as much as time as possible. The first encounter with a Survivor determines the outcome of the match. If you don't have it, there's a huge chance you're aboutta get Gen Rushed and you'll never able to catch anybody especially with Doc since he can't build bloodlust as easily as other Killers since using his Shock Therapy just resets the bloodlust timer so chases take much longer than they should. I suggest replacing Ruin with either NOED or Remember Me. Survivors are going to have to one of either 2 things, they're noticing the game is going by way too quickly and will start becoming weary of an imminent NOED so they won't repair the Gens if they're smart, but if you decide to run Remember Me instead, those Survivors breaking totems in anticipation of NOED just wasted their time which is good. idk man, it's hard to say with Doc. I used to main him, but I've since moved on from him.
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@SaltyKiller said:
Unfortunately, you need Ruin on every killer except maybe, big emphasis on maybe, on maybe Hillbilly.Doctor can run a lot of quirky builds like Distressing/Unnerving Presence/Coulrophobia. Or switch out Unnerving or Coulro for Nurse's Calling which lets you see them when they're trying to snap out of madness. Tinkerer is also good if you have Add-ons that increase Madness.
You get downvoted everywhere!? And not by me either! Are you seeing the pattern? You are being TOO extreme, and acting like survivors are omnipresent gods. They are definitely (SWF only, solo is statistically too weak, can’t argue with that stats don’t care about your opinions) too strong. However you act as if they are INVULRNABLE. They are beatable, I average 3.6 kills at rank 1. Ruin definitely helps, but it’s not necessary.
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@SaltyKiller said:
@Jack11803 said:
@SaltyKiller said:
Unfortunately, you need Ruin on every killer except maybe, big emphasis on maybe, on maybe Hillbilly.Doctor can run a lot of quirky builds like Distressing/Unnerving Presence/Coulrophobia. Or switch out Unnerving or Coulro for Nurse's Calling which lets you see them when they're trying to snap out of madness. Tinkerer is also good if you have Add-ons that increase Madness.
You get downvoted everywhere!? And not by me either! Are you seeing the pattern? You are being TOO extreme, and acting like survivors are omnipresent gods. They are definitely (SWF only, solo is statistically too weak, can’t argue with that stats don’t care about your opinions) too strong. However you act as if they are INVULRNABLE. They are beatable, I average 3.6 kills at rank 1. Ruin definitely helps, but it’s not necessary.
If you’ve been playing your name this entire time, congrats, you are stellar at it.Oh noes! I'm getting down voted! Whatever shall I do!?
Do as I suggested and learn? I’m not discouraging you from talking, I just want you to actually perceive things not in front of your face. Clearly you think downvotes do matter, as you downvote me every time I speak, even though I gave you plenty of advice and respect. More than you ever gave me anyway.
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At least you made my goal of getting 100 downvotes within 2 weeks from mad people extremely easy, I already have 98! Easy $50 for that bet
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@Jack11803 said:
@SaltyKillerAt least you made my goal of getting 100 downvotes within 2 weeks from mad people extremely easy, I already have 98! Easy $50 for that bet
Wouldn’t it suck to know the person you don’t like gets paid because you don’t like them?
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@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@SaltyKillerAt least you made my goal of getting 100 downvotes within 2 weeks from mad people extremely easy, I already have 98! Easy $50 for that bet
Wouldn’t it suck to know the person you don’t like gets paid because you don’t like them?
Looks like lying does work on you... and you really care about how I feel. That’s really all I had to say for you to switch from downvote to false flagging? Please get more self esteem and self value. You just freely let me be the puppet master over you. Don’t let others influence you.
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Well, at least flags count as downvotes still, so I’m still at now 99. Truth is, am I lying? I’ve tricked before, but also have plenty of evidence that’s it a real bet. I made posts long ago about the bet, before you came after me constantly, so it’s not like I saw the future and set this up just to dupe someone I hadn’t met yet
Also, mods are gonna see 10 spam reports from the SAME person, spamming someone with spam reports doesn’t look good for your sake.
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@Jack11803 said:
Well, at least flags count as downvotes still, so I’m still at now 99. Truth is, am I lying? I’ve tricked before, but also have plenty of evidence that’s it a real bet. I made posts long ago about the bet, before you came after me constantly, so it’s not like I saw the future and set this up just to dupe someone I hadn’t met yetAlso, mods are gonna see 10 spam reports from the SAME person, spamming someone with spam reports doesn’t look good for your sake.
Well, 100 downvotes, once it’s confirmed for the day I get the money. You could undo the downvotes
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I can’t edit on this device fully. And besides, editing is to change what you said, not continue talking.
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@Jack11803 said:
@SaltyKillerI can’t edit on this device fully. And besides, editing is to change what you said, not continue talking.
Well darn, downvoted past 100 will do me no good. But like I said, can’t edit really that much.... sorry.
The entire point of these is a lesson, to teach you 1) People will be misguiding. 2) Looking for ways to improve, not reduce others is the better way. 3) Don’t fall for bait. People will try it all the time. And it worked, don’t let it in the future IE: don’t reply to this saying you in fact didn’t get baited. 4) For you to look at yourself. Your views are extreme, no denying. But why. What’s the reason. Find out yourself, and learn more.
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@SaltyKiller said:
Do you even know what an edit button is, breh? And what you're doing is spamming. No matter the forum what you're doing is considered spam and is very obnoxious.@Jack11803 said:
@SaltyKillerI can’t edit on this device fully. And besides, editing is to change what you said, not continue talking.
@Jack11803 I believe part of what SaltyKiller said also means there was no reason for the past 4 or so posts you made on here. Those posts were literally just made to either inflate your ego, farm posts for your account, or maybe even both.
Also, I kind of am adding to it with this post, but this conversation has strayed FAR off of the OP, and I would bet that this guy is very tired of his phone pinging him for all the notifications on this post not even related to Hex: Ruin on Doctor?
We should just stop commenting here, and if you two want to keep duking it out then fine, but make your own thread in off topic to do this or find a way to pm eachother.1 -
@RagingCalm said:
@SaltyKiller said:
Do you even know what an edit button is, breh? And what you're doing is spamming. No matter the forum what you're doing is considered spam and is very obnoxious.@Jack11803 said:
@SaltyKillerI can’t edit on this device fully. And besides, editing is to change what you said, not continue talking.
@Jack11803 I believe part of what SaltyKiller said also means there was no reason for the past 4 or so posts you made on here. Those posts were literally just made to either inflate your ego, farm posts for your account, or maybe even both.
Well, my day job involves psychoanalysis, so practice seeing others reactions to repeatedly unstable and changing consequences helps me. Although I was told on PS4 already “using people as guinea pigs isn’t much as spam, as it’s inhumane” I said “what if that’s what I wanted you to say” he said nothing. That’s not what I wanted sadly
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@SaltyKiller said:
I assume his title of psychoanalyst is a self-given title.No, self given would be G O D Or I’d mention PhD, not a crummy obscure title like that, I just said that as it’s part of my job, and directly the reason I did what I did. Either way, I made 4 posts off tangent, that alone isn’t really spam, but he alone flagged me 13 times.
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@SaltyKiller said:
I like how I didn't quote him, therefore he received no alerts, but he still almost instantly responds.Get help dude. Go outside and get help. Take some Ritalin or Xanax but you need to get help.
I didn’t even notice it was you, that’s why when I mentioned you I said ‘he’. And either way, I’m currently working a very lenient job. You’re helping me get paid. I would have to stop and study’s elsewhere had you not been a good example. Also, no need in continuing if it’s not on topic or a reply, isn’t that what you said? Forgot to answer your first question: bookmark, it emails me if someone talks on this thread
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Sorry, but ruin isn't good to use anymore.
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Take out unnerving presence and distressing. Use brutal strength, enduring, pop and bbq. People tend to drop pallets early. You can also switch out brutal for sloppy
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It was real easy to drop Ruin after the "rework" and the Doc rework. Just run Overcharge/PGTW/Whispers/ and BBQ or whatever flex perk you want. You won't feel a drop off and your games will be better.
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Necromancy again?
Also, RIP colored text.
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