Camp. Tunnel. Camp. Tunnel. Camp...
Just made 4 survivors games in a row , 4 sad tunnelers and campers. Red ranks, really ? Not the usual complaining but come on wheres the fun ? Dont always accuse survivors since there were no genrush, no toxicity and im solo
I can understand why lot of new players dont want to continue this game. My roomate whos i just make discovers it loves the ambiance but hates killers behaviors on it, and I cant blame him
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What killer and how did he camp
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if enough killers would do this the game would die, thankfully most out there do not....or atleast enough, to the killers: dont be part of the problem.
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Fun is 8 hooks in 4 minutes, and 4 tbaggers in exit gates?
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If they're at red ranks and doing it then clearly it's a good strategy for winning.
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Every red rank killer camps and tunnels. They just don't do that always, only when that will benefit them.
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More fun then just standing there and waiting till some survivor actualy does try to play the game and go for an unhook I say.
Would be good if bots get introduced to the game and campers can just play with those.
"Camping and tunneling is a way to win this game."
You are not winning, you are not even playing the game, you are just taking candy from a baby and accomplishing nothing in the progress.
I have to wonder about the mindset of a person who is willing to do that all day....like....what is the point even? might as well watch paint dry.
"Playing the way that survivors have fun means losing the game if you aren't a few times better than them at performing in your role"
And you will never get better by camping/tunneling, properly learn to play.......
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I've just checked the game rules and I didn't find any reference on why killers should care about survivors fun or the opposite
Also, I didn't find any rule stating that killers must follow the survivors' rulebook or the opposite
Just my 2 cents
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Stop the cap. But actually he is winning if he gets to or more survivors dead it’s a win. And you can definitely get better by tunneling maybe not camping.
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This is a cat and mouse game. Anybody can 4k. Any good swf can push out gens.
Bloodpoint wise it’s always puzzling when someone brings 15k+ in add ons and offerings to get, maybe, 15k from camping.
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Don't want to get tunneled? Stop making yourself a target. Blame your teammates if they unhook you with the killer behind them.
Want to stop camping? Stop rewarding it. Do gens. Get out. If someone dies, so be it. Better 1k then a 4k because the whole team decides to hookrush.
A tactic (be it scummy or not) is not bad, if it works.
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When l play killer l tunnel
these new designed maps have so many dead zones in them if l hook someone in that area l don’t see why l wouldn’t tunnel them.
l dunno if they did it intentionally but some of these maps are so open l don’t blame a killer for tunneling.
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Dead by daylight is not a fun game. It is a frustrating, stressful, and addictive game.
Survivors keep using 'fun' as an excuse to nerf killers.
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Fun is in choice of playstyle. If they have fun camping/tunneling you can't deny them that.
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Sometimes the winning move is to camp or tunnel.
Survivors hanging around the hooked survivor waiting for you to leave, might as well stay by the hook.
Chasing recently unhooked survivor on death hook vs chasing survivor you've never hooked, removing a survivor from the game slows down gens a lot more.
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But without deadzones you would go for a target you have to hit twice instead of once, because without deadzones it would even be harder?
Or would you tunnel anyway?
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A = B
If A, then C
logically invalid argument
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if pure kills means winning to you...then idk what to say, weird mindset.
basically if a survivor or 2 just afk and you kill them you are the big epic winner of the match? really? seems rather pointless to me.
Honestly makes me question why certain people even play a game when they are not willing to actually play....
I wonder if they just need some daily email telling them they are fantastic and great and the best so as to make sure they dont get too insecure in life....
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Fun is not allowed
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jeez man, ITS A GAME, of course both sides should have fun, what the hell is wrong with you?
how did you play tag? by shooting the person you ran for in the leg so you could get them and claim you are the winner?
how do you play monopoly with your family or friends? do you flip the board in anger when you arnt doing well just so you dont lose and who cares about the other players?
why do you even play ONLINE when you dont care about the people you play against? dear lord we need bots just for people like you.
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good question
lf it’s at the start of the game and not a dead zone l would probably hit the other survivor.
dead zone, don’t care how good the survivor is l’m tunneling, there is just no reason not to
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Yeah because that is the problem right, the teammates? with a hag, spirit, huntress, nurse, billy, oni, blight and more in the game....
Not rewarding camping does not matter or do anything, just like every gamer out there they will just think "next game will go better" they dont play for points or whatever, and those matches are completely and utterly worthless and a waste of time no matter how you slice it.
Just like survivors instandly killing themselves on hook, DCing, just being AFK, it does not matter, its not a match and thus just a waste of time.
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... I don't agree with what the other guy said but what you said here isn't saying that he's wrong. You're just saying the logic doesn't make sense.
Ex: I like candy = candy is what I like
If I like candy, then I like banana.
All can be true but the logic doesn't follow.
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There doesn't need to be a "rulebook" to have some human morals lol
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Every game doesn’t have to end in a 4K to be considered a win. And yea if two survivors are afk and I kill them that’s a good enough game for me. I set my own win conditions so I enjoy the game.
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So we shouldn’t try to win because you want to a easy game where you can bully the other side?
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Where'd you get that from what I said?
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Sorry I’m actually dense and quoted the wrong person
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the solution is ez remove the dc penality and if u finde ######### killer or surv u dc ez and go for another game in long time if the player see al dc he stop camping and tuneling for not play alone
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From my experience, really good killers don't tunnel and camp. Killers on the verge of changing colours (purple to red, etc) or losing rank tend to camp, tunnel, and mori... a lot.
Rank reset, this month, will be interesting. I have noticed a shift in survivor play, going in for 2 or 3 man saves against a camper has become a thing.
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If more survivors would do that... we might be stepping in the right direction
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It is not a cooperative game, where all players should work together and make the game fun for everyone. It is not a fun party game for family and friends either. It is a competitive online pvp game where you care for your own fun and fun of your teammates. You don't care about fun of your opponent. You try to win, whatever that means to you. For killer that means getting kills, mostly.
And about fun... I can't speak for every killer, of course, but I believe that's how it works for many top-rank killers - I don't get any fun in handicapped games. The most fun games for me are the ones where I do my best. Even if that means a short game with weak opponents. So, if I have to choose between my fun and my opponent's fun - I will always choose mine. And I don't think you can blame anyone for that.
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Camping is boring, especially when it's the end of the game and the others won't just leave to end the misery and refuse to grasp that i'm not trading a sacrifice for a boring end game chase,
The game needs to do better at encouraging chases and cat and mouse, honestly a few good fun chases are all i'm really asking for not being lost in some trash interior map for 5 waiting for the survivors to just do the gens and end the misery,
Tunneling however is basically essential, you have to thin the ranks or it can be a nightmare regardless of which street you are on, to counter this i would like to see unhooked survivors be less of a threat for a while, so that there actually isn't tactical suicide to ignore them,
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Sorry for even trying to tunnel or camp just a little bit to get the hand over the opposing team especially in a game where the odds are against you?
I am not saying I tunnel the hell out of every survivor, or really hardcore camp them either. But the reason killers do it is (and no, not because they are bad most of the time at high ranks) because it is one of the few ways they can actually get kills sometimes. They are playing the game to win, same as you. That is like saying looping and gen rushing is "...not even playing the game...". For example, tunneling and gen rushing is working on your only objective so they are very similar. For survivors, they just hold m1, easy. For killers, they chase down the same survivor (i.e tunneling; working on their only objective) to get a kill early or only a little bit in the whole game to slug them and get some pressure.
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Selfish people always play as killer
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Okay then let´s look on some proper examples for ONLINE PVP games.
Do you give the other side free kills in overwatch, valorant, cs, rainbow 6 six, league of legends, dota2, fortnite, pubg and so on, to let them have more fun?
Do you let the other side score in rocket league, fifa and other similar sport games, to let them have more fun?
Dbd is not a casual friendly party game like for example worms, gang beasts, mario kart, ultimate chicken horse, move or die and so on, where you play against your friends offline (online can even here be competitive). Heck even in fall guys, people are competitve.
Edit: And to add one proper example for your real life ones, does a team in soccer let the other score to care for their fun?
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You forget one thing: DBD is NOT a competitive game! It's not even balanced around being one cause it is an asymmetrical multiplayer game, not a shooter or anything else. It has no real ranking system (the one we have rn is useless and doesn't say ANYHING. You can rank up just by playing a lot and can still be bad in the game)
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It is still team vs team, even while asymmetrical. Your examples are free for all (monopoly) or friends playing with each other (playing catch, in dbd aka kyf). And yes soloq might feel like playing vs everyone in the trial but it is not.
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This Game is not competitive, because It has absolutely zero balance so.... The only competitive factor is the player Who wants to take seriously every match to feel better, but is just that.
A Game based on 4 man premades Bullying another one , or that one playing like a ######### camping hooks cant be competitive
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same for killer, gen rushing every single game.
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High ranks? Yeah,you getting punished for that Mori nerf mate.
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"I can't flashlight you in the face and take away your ability to play after nailing you with Decisive Strike if you put me on a hook and don't let my friends save me so I can do it to you all over again, so clearly you are a bad killer and need to uninstall because you are garbage."
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= loop, m1 on a gen, loop, m1 on a gen, loop...
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the game is brutal for new players in general whether they play survivor or killer, though generally more of a tough experience starting out as a survivor when the players are generally new or inexperienced. It is a bit easier starting out as a killer, but that's just what makes it more jarring once you start being matched with better survivors after coasting on easy street for the first week or so.
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for killer get pip so easy lol what u talking about camping or tunneling takes no skill u bot
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devs dont care just buy skins is their motto they wont fix that so ..fun yeah right
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