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Bodyblocking
I'm wondering how survivors get mad at face-camping (don't get me wrong it's a cheap exploit) but think it's okay to bodyblock. Here's why bodyblocking is worst; face camping can be resolved by unhooking from the sides whilst bodyblocking completly prevent hooking survivors. More than that, it takes advantage of in-game mechanic flaws and has no counter. Can the devs play a match vs ppl doing that ? Like when they wouldn't nerf the flashlights, took 1 match vs 4 survivors using it to make them nerf it. I have nothing against a loss fair and square but it feels as I climb ranks, it's the only "tactic" high rank use, which is sad since I expected ppl who are much better at hiding and chases not trolls. Even Neji is jalous of that perfect defense...
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It usually just results in another survivor getting downed. Haven't seen many people actually prevent a hooking by bodyblocking. Seems fine if they're willing to take the risk.
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@OrionQc24 said:
I'm wondering how survivors get mad at face-camping (don't get me wrong it's a cheap exploit) but think it's okay to bodyblock. Here's why bodyblocking is worst; face camping can be resolved by unhooking from the sides whilst bodyblocking completly prevent hooking survivors. More than that, it takes advantage of in-game mechanic flaws and has no counter. Can the devs play a match vs ppl doing that ? Like when they wouldn't nerf the flashlights, took 1 match vs 4 survivors using it to make them nerf it. I have nothing against a loss fair and square but it feels as I climb ranks, it's the only "tactic" high rank use. Even Neji is jalous of that perfect defense...Because you can hit bodyblockers. You can’t move a killer. Dumb question
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You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...even if you could. The one you carry will escape and start healing injured teammates...dumb answer...
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@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
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Just look it up YouTube. It's an actual plague.
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@OrionQc24 said:
Just look it up YouTube. It's an actual plague.I’m rank 1 killer. Get there all the time. Never dodge SWF. It’s not a big deal.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
You do realize all it take is 2 bodyblockers to prevent hooking whilst the fourth is doing objectives.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
You do realize all it take is 2 bodyblockers to prevent hooking whilst the fourth is doing objectives.
1) only one guy, that’s pretty slow. 2) Not always the case, that’s only 2 hits they’ve delayed you. Besides now they’re hurt and easy targets, unless you’re bad.
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I don't understand any part of your sentence. Also your rank is irrelevant, especially if all you do is bodyblocking. XD
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
You do realize all it take is 2 bodyblockers to prevent hooking whilst the fourth is doing objectives.
1) only one guy, that’s pretty slow. 2) Not always the case, that’s only 2 hits they’ve delayed you. Besides now they’re hurt and easy targets, unless you’re bad.
Again 2 hit = a free wiggling survivor, I would've thought a rank 1 would know. Even if you down another, 2 guys switch place and he/she is free again...Rince and repeat.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
You do realize all it take is 2 bodyblockers to prevent hooking whilst the fourth is doing objectives.
1) only one guy, that’s pretty slow. 2) Not always the case, that’s only 2 hits they’ve delayed you. Besides now they’re hurt and easy targets, unless you’re bad.
Again 2 hit = a free wiggling survivor. I would've thought a rank 1 would know. Lol Even if you down another 2 guys switch place and he/she is free again. Rince and repeat.
How long does it take you to chase?! It takes 24 seconds for both to heal, not counting running away or back, or whether they self care or not. Also, I’ve hit 3 and still hooked.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
You do realize all it take is 2 bodyblockers to prevent hooking whilst the fourth is doing objectives.
1) only one guy, that’s pretty slow. 2) Not always the case, that’s only 2 hits they’ve delayed you. Besides now they’re hurt and easy targets, unless you’re bad.
Again 2 hit = a free wiggling survivor. I would've thought a rank 1 would know. Lol Even if you down another 2 guys switch place and he/she is free again. Rince and repeat.
How long does it take you to chase?! It takes 24 seconds for both to heal, not counting running away or back, or whether they self care or not. Also, I’ve hit 3 and still hooked.
First off, stop trying to aggressively insult me (are you 12 ?) it is irrelevant to the discussion. Who said I was the killer ? Bc a survivor can't see an exploit when it sees one ? Secondly, 24s to heal (maybe without perks or healing kits) when you have 3 target is not a lot. Finaly, please do send videos of those aweful survivors. xD
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
You do realize you can't down 3 bodyblockers...You do realize none of them are on an objective, and now need to heal right? And you can go down them and repeat the process before they even healed right?
You do realize all it take is 2 bodyblockers to prevent hooking whilst the fourth is doing objectives.
1) only one guy, that’s pretty slow. 2) Not always the case, that’s only 2 hits they’ve delayed you. Besides now they’re hurt and easy targets, unless you’re bad.
Again 2 hit = a free wiggling survivor. I would've thought a rank 1 would know. Lol Even if you down another 2 guys switch place and he/she is free again. Rince and repeat.
How long does it take you to chase?! It takes 24 seconds for both to heal, not counting running away or back, or whether they self care or not. Also, I’ve hit 3 and still hooked.
First off, stop rrying to aggressively insult me it is irrelevant to the conversation. Btw who said I was the killer ? Bc a survivor can't see an exploit when it sees one ? Secondly, 24s to heal (maybe without perks or healing kits) when you have 3 target is not a lot. Finaly, please do send videos of those aweful survivors. xD
Tell me where I aggressively insulted you.
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"unless you're bad" , "jeez how long does it take you to chase" , "if you're good" . Do you think those were veiled insults ? ;3
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To me it seems you're scared the devs may take away bodyblocking and you're rank will suffer...It would be a good thing tho. Learning how to actually play the game (hiding, running away, etc) is a +.
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@OrionQc24 said:
"unless you're bad" "jeez how long does it take you to chase" "if you're good" Do you think those were veiled insults ? ;3Those are aggressive insults? Bad isn’t one, it’s a state of affinity or skill. How long you chase is a question, and “if you’re good” is basically the same as the “unless you’re bad”
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
"unless you're bad" "jeez how long does it take you to chase" "if you're good" Do you think those were veiled insults ? ;3Those are aggressive insults? Bad isn’t one, it’s a state of affinity or skill. How long you chase is a question, and “if you’re good” is basically the same as the “unless you’re bad”
Do you know the meaning of subtext and the difference between the meliorative and pejorative form ? Clearly not.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
"unless you're bad" "jeez how long does it take you to chase" "if you're good" Do you think those were veiled insults ? ;3Those are aggressive insults? Bad isn’t one, it’s a state of affinity or skill. How long you chase is a question, and “if you’re good” is basically the same as the “unless you’re bad”
Do you know the meaning of subtext and the difference between meliorative and pejorative form ? Clearly not.
I’m sure if I was you that’s be an insult.
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"that is be an insult" what ? Look it's not my mother's tongue so either try to use standard english or correct your typos.
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@OrionQc24 said:
"that is be an insult" what ?Typing on a phone is a #########. Replace the ‘s with ‘d. It’s one letter difference on keyboard. Most could infer that. Not you though.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
"that is be an insult" what ?Typing on a phone is a #########. Replace the ‘s with ‘d. It’s one letter difference on keyboard. Most could infer that. Not you though.
Read my previous message.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
"that is be an insult" what ?Typing on a phone is a #########. Replace the ‘s with ‘d. It’s one letter difference on keyboard. Most could infer that. Not you though.
Read my previous message.
My reply was before you edited your comment
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Anyway what is even happenning here were not even debating bodyblocking anymore...
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@OrionQc24 said:
Anyway what is even happenning here were not even debating bodyblocking anymore...Yeah, this is bad.
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Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let players learn how to use actual game mechanics to survive. Good teamwork is essential but shouldn't be rewarding trolls.
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@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
First time here dude. Also what is WGLF ?
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
First time here. WGLF ?
We're Gonna Live Forever
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Use Sloppy Butcher, Pop goes the Weasel, Blood Hound or Nurses calling, that will severely punish them and make them think twice about doing that again.0
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
Oh wiggling free
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
Oh wiggling free
Not wiggling drew. Taking a hit would be harder. You get tokens for taking hits for teammates. I could care less if they stay on your back
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
I think the wiggling should be buff BUT I think it's fair and logical that it would be hard to escape with a full team.
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See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
I think the wiggling should be buff BUT I think it's fair and logical that it would be hard to escape with a full team.
Not sure what you’re trying to say here.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
I think the wiggling should be buff BUT I think it's fair and logical that it would be hard to escape with a full team.
Not sure what you’re trying to say here.
Posted before you explained nvm that one
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@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
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@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
It could be reworked to take away that condition. Or not just block him before getting to the hook.
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@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
What I'm saying explicitly is that; if I'm right in front of a hook, the game shouldn't allow you and 2 others to literally block that hook. Even face camping have counter methods even if the killer's right there. Not bodyblocking since killers can't hook from the sides or perks that help them deal with it..
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
What I'm saying explicitly is that; if I'm right in front of a hook, the game shouldn't allow you and 2 others to literally block that hook. Even face camping have counter methods even if the killer's right there. Not bodyblocking since I can't hook from the sides.
The thing is, face camping ends someone’s game, with no chance to escape. Bodyblocking is a small inconvenience that can actually snowball into your advantage.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
What I'm saying explicitly is that; if I'm right in front of a hook, the game shouldn't allow you and 2 others to literally block that hook. Even face camping have counter methods even if the killer's right there. Not bodyblocking since I can't hook from the sides.
The thing is, face camping ends someone’s game, with no chance to escape. Bodyblocking is a small inconvenience that can actually snowball into your advantage.
Are you serious ? Bc that's a straight up lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers...
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That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers. P.S there's also one perk that lower the amount of time it takes to unhook and makes you heal faster by 100%.
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@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument. I'm talking about actual game mechanics not bugs you can exploit.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
Then you have a 5s animation during which they switch, forcing another hit 5s again, the dude wiggles away and you're back chasing while they're healing/repairing waiting for you to try again. Rince and repeat as many times as you want. Since you can't hook they can be downed an infinite amount of times VOILA no death and the full team survived. The only real "counter" is to hope they'll make a mistake down the line.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
Then you have a 5s animation during which they switch, forcing another hit 5s again, the dude wiggles away and you're back chasing while they're healing/repairing waiting for you to try again. Rince repeat as many times as you want since you can't hook they can be downed an infinite amount of times.
It’s 3 seconds if you count the swing. And that’s 6 seconds. It takes about 12.5 seconds to wiggle free. That’s if you don’t have iron grasp or Agitation, with iron grasp giving more time, and agiatation usually able to circumvent bodyocking
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
Then you have a 5s animation during which they switch, forcing another hit 5s again, the dude wiggles away and you're back chasing while they're healing/repairing waiting for you to try again. Rince repeat as many times as you want since you can't hook they can be downed an infinite amount of times.
It’s 3 seconds if you count the swing. And that’s 6 seconds. It takes about 12.5 seconds to wiggle free. That’s if you don’t have iron grasp or Agitation, with iron grasp giving more time, and agiatation usually able to circumvent bodyocking
So as I said 2 hits, he wiggle away. Forcing a chase while both bodyblockers heal each others.
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