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I was done but I guess not.
I was gonna leave the forums for a couple months but my recent dbd game has made me extremely frustrated. I'm genuinely convinced these devs do not care about survivors. Killer is the easiest its ever been. The majority of survivors are really bad. The only time you should really lose pubs as killer is if you get bad rng.
This leads me to my next point: for the love of god fix hit validation. I've been running resilience to stop the bad hits and even when I do make a window they hit me through it. It doesnt work for ######### so maybe put actually time and resources into fixing it. All these terrible killers who think they are good because of these unfair hits really makes me angry.
Apparently filler tiles can spawn without pallets. I remember a couple years ago when pallets actually spawned and didnt spawn empty. The deadzones on the new maps are actually consistent for some reason.
Deathslinger and Pyramid head are the most boring killers I've ever faced and yet they are considered fine. I even enjoy facing spirit more than those clowns.
To cut a long story short, I hate survivor and the best thing that happened was the mori nerf which is good but god damn the game is in such a poor state for them. I'll continue to killer because its genuinely fun and easy. One more thing.
Every console killer has bad internet and every pc killer vpns. There is no changing my mind. Vault build doesnt help the problem. I'll reply to as many as I can then I'm gonna take my forum break indefinitely.
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The thing is, u really need to play killer for a 100 hours straight to understand survivors are severely OP.
Otherwise, killers are just too strong and needs a nerf.
On top of the already nerfed thanataphobia, POP, doctor, Billy, lullaby, mori, etc.
U mine as well make it so nerfed that most survivors have a 50% of escaping.
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Hot validation.. Is that like Twitter verified?
Killers are fine, take a break and when you return quit taking it personally when the KILLER KILLS YOU
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Just because OP tiles and infinites don't spawn everywhere now doesn't mean killer has gotten easier. If you're playing Nurse or Spirit, sure it's easy. If you're playing Deathslinger or Pyramid Head and your aim is really on, sure it's easy. But beyond that it is anything but a cake walk, even with Ruin/Undying. I've tried playing without Ruin/Undying on someone like Demogorgon or Clown, using Corrupt/Pop for gen defense, and it is just miserable. If you aren't a killer that has insane map pressure, you're done for. Runaway gens will trump any amount of good chases you do, so you have to focus on the weak link of the team and actually *retreat* from the strong loopers/loops.
So no, aside from a few strong killers/builds, killer has never been and never will be easy.
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Im only pissed at the survivor side. I enjoy killer honestly. That's why I won't take a break. The devs need to make an mmr or ranking system so that survivors who have no, iq, cant loop, or do gens can not climb the ranks. It's not even the gap that's the biggest problem. It's the fact the red ranks is bloated with bad players
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You should have just stopped and not come back on when angry and indulged in a rant. If this game frustrates you that much its time to stop for a bit.
I second the post about hyperbole here as it really does just come off like a rant, rather than a well thought out objective assessment of things.
Never come to the forums angry as this is the result and it basically shoots your own argument in the foot before you've even really begun.
Take your own advice and take a break.
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It was an exaggeration but it has some truth because on west servers its a ton of vpners. The console players just seem to have the worst connection to the server.
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I have way more others in killer than 100. Also it is only pubs not tournaments otherwise survivors are not op. Pub survivors are dog ######### which is why solo is complained about sooo much. Pop is still good, thana works on legion and plague, Lullaby wasn't even nerfed if you understand the change, mori was objectively op. I don't want survivors to escape 50% lol.
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Do you play on wifi
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Jeez, take a chill pill bro
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This is why I rarely play survivor.
I can loop, I work on gens even while injured, I take aggro when someone else is on death hook, I take hits when an injured survivor happens to run past me while I'm working on a gen etc.
I do everything a red rank survivor is supposed to do.
Meanwhile 50+% of random red rank solo teammates:
*hide in a bush doing nothing all game*
Balance wise the game is in a better spot than ever before (minus the dead zones) but at the same time there seem to be more boosted survivors on red ranks than ever before making it impossible to escape no matter what you do.
I got found first the other day by a Doctor on Haddonfield. Looped him for 1 min 52 sec (that's when he lost me) and only 1 gen popped.
1 generator even though 3 gens should pop after 1 min and 20 sec / 80 sec if the killer over-commits to the first chase for nearly 2 minutes.
Keep in mind I got shocked a million times during the chase so EVERYONE knew I was getting chased and even then only 1 single generator after nearly 2 minutes.
But I keep saying to myself:
" you can not balance killers around dumb and useless survivors "
I said it before and I will say it again:
Pipping as survivor should depend on your chases and your individual gen progress.
People who do neither shouldn't be able to rank up. Simple as.
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After a bunch REALLY bad solo survivor games today, I decided to switch to killer to calm down and damn, I had a blast. After rank rest, I was back to green ranks, now I am already back to rank 6 (which I am honestly not too fond of) by only playing Ghostface. Meanwhile I pipped TWICE in the about 20 matches as solo surv today.
In all my killer matches, I had ONE swf team that was actually really decent. My Ruin and Undying were gone 5 seconds in the match so I made them 3 gen themself and hooked them all at least once, killing the most annoying one them in the end. All the other games were a walk in a park compared my survivor games + on top even in that one "bad" match I got 25k BPs and a black pip. Meanwhile most of my survivor games today did end with about 10k points and the desire to kill someone irl.
One match was against a Plague on Hawkins. One dude with WGLF hookrushed everyone, purged as soon as he got infected and otherwise just hid in fcking lockers and he got the hatch in the end...
Another one was against a Clown with one shot bottles and my team mates just selfacred after every slug/unhook.
Thats just two of the matches but 90% of mine were just like that today. I wished I would enjoy the killer role more but I think I will try to like it better cause playing killer is 10 times better than solo survivor these days.
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Hit validation I made a mistake. I never said killers weren't fine. I'm also not taking it personally. Did you read like my first two paragraphs and comment?
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Yes but I do not pokos I get good ping.
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I already escape about 50% of my games. Lullaby is a nerf depending on which killer is using it as the change was putting a restriction on it.
If survivors are not OP to u, than ur the lucky few who can kill survivors at high ranks.
The average killer cannot do that.
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It's not even an argument. It was never intended to be either. It's just my thoughts and all anecdotal. Its all purely because survivor is in a worst spot than killer.
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I don't feel killer has gotten easier so much as survivors are not "as" OP as they were. Survivors were OP as sin when the game launched and it's taken them 4+ years to try to balance it out. For every killer buff there is a shadow nerf or survivor buff to compensate.
It sounds like the majority of your problems are bad randoms. If you are on PC I suggest turning off cross platform because almost all console survivors suck. I've been saying for over a year that BHVR needs to stop releasing new chapters and actually work out some of the games bugs. There are plenty. Id much rather they focus on game health instead of pumping out a killer that is buggy upon release and it worse than Legion.
BHVR, if you want more money from me than make something actually worth it. If The Twins were viable, bug free and had decent perks I would have paid for that. But what we got now, I don't even want to spend shards on this killer. They suck that much.
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That's exactly what it means lol. If infinites and op tiles don't spawn killer definitely is easier. I also don't want them to spawn they were like we both said op. In pubs every killer is viable if the player is good. I fully believe that. Even the weaker killers because outside of tournaments survivors are just plain bad. The only thing that holds you back is the good rng for survivor and a few of the large maps and that's it. I feel like that you are exaggerating.
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As much as wifi has come along, for online gaming, I would still find a way to setup a hard wire connection.
I've played cod and other online games on wifi connections and i just do not have a good gaming experience...
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I'm not exaggerating. Red rank SWF or even good solos will wreck you if you're not running meta perks. What people look at too often is the result of the match, but it doesn't tell the story of the match. Say a SWF could easily get 3 people out, but they stay for the 1 that's left, and end up giving the killer a 3k. The killer didn't earn those kills necessarily, the survivors just threw the game. That's half the games (or more) that I win. If survivors weren't so greedy for the 4-man escape, killer's kill rates would plummet.
That's the reality because of too many strong tiles spawning, and survivors knowing how to run those tiles. Even a TL can be looped til the entity blocks a window, because the survivor is just that lucky at predicting which way the killer is gonna go. I've had it happen many times, which is why I retreat from TLs sometimes.
Now imagine how strong jungle gyms and god loops are in the hands of those survivors: unwinnable game. Killers depend on weak links, and when there is none like in a full red SWF, there's no winning. Maybe, with cheap tactics like slugging and forcing stage 2, can the killer win, and that's if they fall for those tactics.
I do win a lot, naturally, but I know it was because of a weak and uncoordinated survivor team. I've had an equal amount of games where I got stomped no matter how well I played.
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Only a break from the forums. I can play killer because well I main it. Also blight is dope.
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Are you an aggressive or passive player? That gives me a clear reason for your escape percent. I still think the change was fine you can still use it in impossible skill check builds lol.
I do not think survivor who are op, nor am I lucky. I consider myself a good killer. That's it.
The average killer wants kills handed to them and hasn't played when survivors truly were op.
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Yes I did and it reads as you being a salty survivor, calling being the killer (The 1 in a 4v1) easy.
If saying you're going to leave and then saying "I'm back because I'm frustrated, here is why I hate everything" isn't taking it personally then I don't know what is
You know what, you said you would switch to killer and we need more killers so I take it back, stick around! (:
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If you don't think killer has gotten easier over the 4 years of survivor nerfs I think you must just be flat out bad as killer. I am gonna be completely honest with you. 4 years of nerfs and you think there has been a survivor buff and shadow nerf to compensate? Yeah keep exaggerating.
Bad randoms, and ######### servers. The devs neglect trying to fix the servers and try to come and justify the bad hits. I am on console so it sucks. I do agree console survivors are super trash. But then again all survivors are. Atleast in pubs. Your last few points I complete agree with.
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I can be both depending on how the killer and my team is.
I usually run left behind and plunder. And half my escapes are hatch escapes.
I am solo.
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first of all i'm a pc killer and pc survivor, I do not vpn what so ever. your assumptions are very problematic and lead you to erroneous conclusions. Also please get on the other side of a 4 ft tall fence, stand 2-3 feet away from it and have another stand 2-3 feet away from it on the other side. now have one of you hold a 2-3 foot stick in your hand and see if you can touch the other. if you can you have disproven that you can not be hit after you leap a window. However the GAME registers the hit on one computer and transmits it to another computer and then that transmits it to your computer and that causes you to see things that are not correct based on your end, hell I have seen a survivor downed at the midline between the exit gate and the actual exit line and the on my system they were at my feet but suddenly they were transported 1/2 to the zone line and by the time i could move they were crawling out. and I lost the hook/kill, this is called latency and even though hit validation is a thing, it is not always going to be correct and some things will still hit erroneously but that doesn't mean things are broken. I will say there have been many times I've said to myself well that looked like a suspicious hit but hey i can't do anything about it. the only way you could possibly remove this issue is IF your computers were all playing on the same network router and nothing else in between them and the others.
your opinions on the killers are exactly that, opinions as I find that they are FUN to go against and make me think in different ways. Just like blight and nurse does the same for me when i consider where i'm running. if I'm going to vault a window with phead i'm going to make sure i'm going at a run so i can keep good distance and make a quick left or right juke so i miss that shot he has. same with death slinger, i've gotten the "near miss" result more times that i want to admit. you gotta think out of the box, play killer, play with frineds for swf if you don't like randos. I get my share of randos that leave me on hook from first hook to death without a thought I gripe but i move on, i don't come here and complain about it and say it makes my game experience that much worse. I also don't generalize people based on the platform and choice of side at all.
Good luck in your games I hope you find something that best fits you.
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Yes I do definitely believe the killer side is easy in pubs. Outside of that (tournaments) its genuinely hard I should know. Also read the whole thing since I can tell you seem to have a slight killer bias and don't understand my frustrations.
I was referring to leaving the forums, not the game itself. I am a killer main after all and enjoy that side more than survivor. I don't care about killers killing me once again read the post or don't comment.
Yeah I'm not sticking around for all the killer mains who really think killer is hard outside of tournaments. You guys complain way too much for my liking.
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I like that you can adjust if you were on my team. Left behind is definitely a key to your high survival rate.
All I can say is good #########.
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"All these terrible killers who think they are good because of these unfair hits really makes me angry." You are a survivor main, there is no changing my mind. (See how that works? How redundant)
It doesn't matter whether you were talking about the game, forums, or your local Walmart. If you say you're leaving and then come back, you took it personally somewhere.
Yes, killer mains definitely complain too much. I'm glad we could discuss this on a thread with survivor complaints
Also, who do you think you are? I could comment the weather and you couldn't stop me. Don't post if you don't want comments like mine.
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Says killer mains complain too much while calling themselves a killer main on their own rant/complaint thread.
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Exactly how I feel.
I downright avoid playing solo these days unless it's absolutely and i'll admit i pretty much only swf with good players. Otherwise survivor is the most stressful and frustrating time of ur life unless you come in with a mentality of i'm probably going to loose but oh well.
I also don't see how people don't see killer as an increasingly powerful and oppresive role, sure things are relatively balanced but these constant changes to surviovr and addition of boring and insane killers will tip the balance into the favour of killer. Do the kill stats of almost 60% not show that game is doing very well for killer?
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My comments on hits is that I'm just maining killer now. It's better for me I don't have to worry about the pokos its more fun in my opinion.
When it comes to boring killers my problem is the lack of counter play when the player is good. "But why should you be able to outplay a good killer". I am a good survivor I should be able to have a back and force interaction where both of us are trying to outplay each other and the victor gets to survive or kill. Power to you if you enjoy going again a deathslinger or pyramid head. Go against a good one and you aren't getting all the "near misses" you claim to get. once again power to you if you can take a bunch of bad players leaving you to die.
Thanks I find killer best suits me.
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I'm really starting to think you greed pallets and windows a bit too much with how you complain about hit validation. While it is still a problem and I still do get hit in unfair ways sometimes, it doesn't effect me every game unless I'm against a Twins, Huntress, or Demo. You could just be unlucky, which is, well, unlucky.
Everyone hates MM currently, and it is a huge issue (Imo, the MM is the current biggest issue in the game, even bigger than balance issues). So don't feel like you're alone on that. Look for fun in chases and outplaying the killer, as playing to win the game in solo Q is just rolling a dice with the MM for good teammates.
Also FYI vault speed build is just placebo, it saves literally milliseconds for 2 perk slots. Unless you like Resilience and Spine chill and their effects (which I don't think is that useful to you cause I'm pretty sure you run object), then they really aint worth taking.
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I guess its redundant but I could care less what you think I am, I main killer nor do I need your validation.
All I said was that I was taking a break from the FORUMS. Mostly because I don't feel the need to be here currently. I only came back one more time before my break because I was frustrated.
I think killer mains complain more than survivors (despite 4 years of constant nerfs lol).
I think I am Azame. You can comment sure but I can also ignore your comment and never reply. Same as anyone else and vice versa.
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Yea your right seems hypocritical? But it was about survivor problems and not the usual "survivors are op" and "ds needs nerf stuff".
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I feel like the only people who think solo queue is fine is the ones that are passive players. Well minus the guy who commented above. Most of the time its passive players. Survivor is definitely stressful maybe more stressful than killer solo.
They are definitely making more oppressive killers. I think the twins are oppressive in chase too but that's a whole nother story. People ignore all of what you just said. Constant survivor changes, boring killers who cancel chases. Maining killer has shown me just how easy it is to 4k. Believe it or not I've been running corrupt only blight and bringing in 4ks consistently on console. While I don't believe fully in kill stats or any of the devs stats it definitely holds some merit when there are so many "weak" killers who can't win at red ranks.
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you know honestly you think that and keep thinking that, everyone makes mistakes and there is always someone better than them no matter who you are talking about.
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This guy doesn't NEED infinites he makes them with tile chains he is literally one of the top survivors and the best I've ever met
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Ill informed.
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Bro I never greed. I can send you clips upon clips of me getting hits that I shouldn't get as killer or me getting hit when I shouldn't as survivor. I do think it's my luck because I can post loads of recent clips of all the bad hits but I rather not do that.
The only reason I am looking to escape is for them sweet succulent survival points. It is pretty hard to earn them other than escaping so I miss out on that. If I do have an enjoyable game where the chases are good then I could care less but the amount of times I get hit is insane. It really messes with my mood when I constantly get hit through windows. Also I want to mention pallet hits actually are not that bad for me.
Vault speed build may be placebo but damn it feels good when I don't get hit. Resilience against a decent ping killer can definitely save me. Also it does not matter to me I usually run object with whatever perk even by its self. It's just flexible.
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That's fine then I will improve and outplay them in the future.
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The homie coming in clutch always nice to see your comment komodo :)
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then inform me?
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Show us three different screenshots. One of your current rank, then one of you at the next rank above the rank you're currently at. In my mind, if killer is easy, you should show us rank 5, then rank 4. Or ideally, show us rank 5 then be able to easily show us rank 1, and still tell us the game is easy for killer.
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Nah crap man. I can't let ANYONE trash talk you when I SEEN how good you are and even my friend Isaiah who is easily top 3 killer players ive met said you were really good. So I wont let anyone tarnish you nor would I with anyone else on this forum if I played with them.
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Hell, if you think killer is easy, then 4k with the plague on command at rank 1.
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Appreciate it I got a witness of my true power lol. We gotta play sometimes make sure you message me on like instagram or something.
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I'm very confused but I can show you my current rank as killer which is 4 right now. Can you try to word it differently?
Plague has crazy snowball potential and I'd already know my build I'd use on her. Granted I don't play her but give me a week to learn her ins and outs it should be pretty easy. Get them all sick and abuse thana. Then take a pool and use infectious fright for an easy 4k. My build im thinking is infectious, thana, bbq(for bp), and corrupt. I shouldn't need pop because 20% slowdown is pretty fire, and corrupt should cover my ass for early game and I can get a couple of really fast chases.
If I really need help I can always switch bbq for pop and sweat my ass off. To be completely honest I could cheese ruin/undying and infectious then win for free. It really is not that hard I gotta be hoenst with you. I'm over here 4k'ing as blight with corrupt rn just working on my basics and perfecting them.
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I hope you do and I wish you the best of luck in doing so!
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You're going to find all of them, get them sick, then waltz on over the pool of devotion to get your one hit down without them spreading out to prevent the use of your infectious fright? You would have to slug the hell out of them to even have a chance. You'd be better off with infectious fright and knock out, assuming that you will have to win with basic attacks. Especially if the survivors have any idea about what they're doing.
EDIT: if you know what you're doing, blight is a great killer, so I don't know why you're mentioning him as if he's bad.
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"Plague has crazy snowball potential" does not equal 4K on command. now you think that's easy with your own build get a random perk build and 4k, and if that's easy do it with no perks and 4k, if that's easy do it with no addons or offerings or perks and 4k on command at rank 1 ALL THE TIME. if you can't 4k every time without help of any items or perks then the game is not too easy, it just is too easy with your meta perks that stop things and everything else. so your claims are outrageously ludicrous that I have a hard time believing you can do it and that it is always too easy for you. My statement here does not say you have no skill but that you may not be as good as you think you are unless you can 4k without fail without perks, add--ons or offerings (blood point only offerings acceptable since they have no bearing on the outcome of the match).
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