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What are we supposed to do in this situation/is this counted as holding the game hostage?
The killer has been holding this girl in the corner for over 10 minutes now, if we open the gates she will die if we don't are we holding the game hostage because he could easily just down her and hook her but is refusing to do so? Who is wrong in this situation? I don't wanna get banned for holding the game hostage by not opening the gate but I also don't want to be "teaming" with the killer by letting her get killed by end game collapse? IDK why he is refusing to hook her when he easily could.
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Yes, it is reportable.
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Technically as long as you as a group have options, he isn't holding it hostage. If you all were gone, he would 100% be holding the game hostage because she can't do anything. However, since you are still there things can advance. My advice, open and leave... and have her record to see if he keeps doing it.
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You could open the gates and leave, you are holding the game hostage.
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This isn't holding the game hostage but I'm pretty sure blocking somebody in the corner for the entire match like this is reportable. Just open the gate and leave.
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The problem is if we open the exits she will die. That is the issue. We would then be working with the killer to get him a kill by opening the exits because he isn't going to suddenly stop body blocking her when we open the gates.
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You wouldn't be working with the killer, you are just trying to justify your actions of not leaving when you could.
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Yes but you weren't intentionally getting her killed. You were completing your objective which was to survive. The only person killing her here is the killer himself. At this point the other survivor might just prefer you to leave so they can move onto the next game without a DC penalty. Just report the killer for griefing/unsportsmanlike and hope they actually use the reports like they say they do. Only other advice I can offer is use this as a lesson to never corner yourself.
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Mods/devs on here have said before that if it starts before EGC then it is holding the game hostage.
No you're not at fault or working with the killer. Open it, let the game end then report them.
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As I was writing this reply he thought I was AFK and the other lady was AFK so ended up hitting the Nea. (I have two monitors so saw him and we swung into action the Zarina had BT and all three of us got out after 16 minutes of my moral dilemma. I recorded it in case I get reported and obviously I posted here to try and come up with a solution. Had he not hit her while I was typing I was going to open the exit, but I guess he decided he had gotten bored. The sad thing is he was on console so I can't submit my video evidence against him because I cannot get to his profile. We all submitted an in game report though.
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She wasn't in a SWF with me so I couldn't tell if she would have wanted me to leave but she was just teabagging the entire time. Unfortunately she had to corner herself because she cleansed his NOED which had spawned in that corner. I think that is why he did it.
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AH the SWF, the true reason.
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Sorry my dyslexia ######### me it was supposed to read "She wasn't in a SWF with me"
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This isn't holding the game hostage, this is what report-able body blocking is. All you can do is rush gens, leave, report the killer with video evidence and hope they get banned.
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as long as survivors can do something its all good if she would be alone then it would be reportable
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She would have been alone left to die if we had opened the exits though. In my eyes we weren't holding the game hostage because he could have just hit her and hooked her (which he eventually did) and he chose to body block her in the corner after she cleansed NOED. I don't think the killer could report us for holding the game hostage because he literally could have just gone and open the exit and forced us out but didn't. The only one that could report us really would be the survivor and she is much more likely to report the killer seeing as it was him that was doing it.
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i didnt say you guys where holding the game hostage lol all im saying is you cant report him for it since there was still a objective that couldve been done aka opening the gates
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I am not convinced that reporting it with evidence is not a waste of yours.
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I have a video as I stated above, but I can't report him as you cannot get their gamer tag because they were on console so the only thing I could do was in game report.
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Feel free to reread this comment, as I said I had video evidence, as you can see from my screenshot I was recording but I cannot report him as he was on console and therefore doesn't have a STEAM ID needed for the report ticket.
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thats not the conclusion i would have drawn.
Usually, you cant conclude from "a is a waste of time" to "b is not a waste of time", but if it fits your "logic", i wont complain.
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If I could I would, not sure how it is my fault that you cannot report someone without a steam ID on the support tickets...
@Peanits Could I fill out the report ticket and just put "NA" in the player steam ID or will it not let me submit the form without a valid steam ID.
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The killer is at fault here. Bodyblocking for a few seconds wouldn't be considered reportable, but since the killer was doing it for a long time it is a reportable offense on their part. The survivor wouldn't be able to report you for working with the killer since you didn't lead the killer to them and there was nothing you could do in the situation.
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Surely they updated their own reporting methods to deal with Crossplay interactions....
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You opening the gates and leaving would not be "helping the Killer" because you only actual goal in this game as Survivor is to get out alive. You. Not anyone else. As long as YOU get out alive you've done what the game wanted from you.
Is it poor form and makes you feel horrible? Yeah. But it's the Killer's fault for just standing there instead of hitting and moving on.
As for the report it says you can use "Gamer tag" which I would assume would be their screen name when they are on console. If not then you need to file a Bug Report on their Player Reporting system in that console players can't be reported.
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You're making this out to be bigger than it should be/really is.
Get gates, and exit. If she dies, she dies. Killer is a complete loser and its reportable so keep that in mind for the future. Getting out and finishing the match speeds it up for the player who is locked in the corner as well as for every one else. Just remember to report players like that.
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What the killer is doing is reportable. Absolutely.
Just do the gates and leave and report him that is all you can do in this situation. Refusing to leave at all, puts you in collaboration with the killer and after a certain time period you might get reported, (correctly I might add by the trapped survivor), as well.
I mean if it's clear nothing can be done you have NO reason to stay there after trying whatever you could to get him to leave; so that is what you should do.
You go here and choose submit a ticket; additional report information:
Choose the platform that they are on.
Instead of steam ID you put their gamer tag info.
Cloud ID information shows on all systems afaik so you can put that in as well.
Nothing more can be done from anyone on these forums; a mod will likely shortly post a better version of what I just said and likely lock this topic. Reporting the player with the screenshot you have attached; after leaving your match normally is the most you can do. This will trigger EGC and force things to progress.
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Actually they aren't. The killer can open the gates at this stage of the game whenever they want to to start endgame collapse. They are choosing not to. No one is holding the game hostage.
Edit: I guess you could make the argument that the killer and three other survivors are holding the game hostage for the girl in the corner but not for each other.
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Yes they are in this situation. The killer is choosing to do nothing else but clearly grief one person by denying them the ability to play at all.
However the survivors should end the game and get out; so that at least the EGC can happen. Choosing to refuse to do that puts you basically in the same boat as the killer; where you would be collectively griefing this one person after it's clear you are not doing anything, and you are now all holding the game hostage together.
If they go and open the gates, at least the game will progress and things will conclude; putting at least the survivors in the innocent category for letting things end.
Edit: This comment bumped to a new page; but OP please see my last post on the first page for the answers to your questions.
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Yeah, sorry, I initially missed that and added that in my edit. I wanted to clarify that the killer wasn't the one being held hostage since they have the power to naturally end the game when they want to. I do agree that the best thing the survivors can do is open the gates, leave, and report for griefing.
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This is reportable if you have video evidence if i'm not mistaken.
In the future if you see this, record it for a minute and then leave asap.
By not opening the gate you are keeping that survivor stuck while the killer is probably afk. It's hurting the survivor more then the killer.
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Here's this from MandyTalk.
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This. The OP is really focused on whether the survivor's going to die, but the bigger issue is whether the player's going to get held hostage in the match indefinitely. I'm sure they'd rather their character die than that they have to stay in that corner for the rest of time. The right thing to do is end the match as fast as possible so that the griefing stops.
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Simple answer no it's not holding the game hostage because everyone can make progress that one survivor is being held tho
Here I'll give you an example who ever that was is being held hostage in a bank robbery dose that one action stop the rest of the world. No
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It has been stated that body blocking isint bannable
if that's the case many killers would of been banned before they made the change to the basement stairs to be wider to stop the killer from blocking them in
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Ngl would of been funny if the bubba had a blood warden plan to kill all of you to the egc but your empathy wouldn't open the gate
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Body blocking is not bannable.
Griefing or holding a game hostage is.
You can sometimes use body blocking to do the latter; which is what is happening here- thus it is reportable. I hope that clears it up for you.
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Like I said in many of my previous comments I wasn't in a SWF with this player, she was console so I had no way of contacting her to ask her what she wanted me to do in the situation. Either way it resolved itself by the killer giving up his body blocking before I could open the gate. My main concern was her reporting me for helping the killer by letting her die to EGC when there was a way she might be saved (which she was) if she was dead on hook I would have left right away to end her trial sooner rather then later.
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That part is not reportable; you're fine. It only would have been if you never triggered the EGC for like a stupid long period of time; to a point you were obviously griefing her along with the killer- and it's clear you were not. So you're good.
As for reporting the killer or console players in the future, see my post back on the first page for info on if you need to do that in the future.
I think that about wraps all this up.
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Yeah it does, thanks for your help.
Also thanks for everyone that replied even if some of you seemed to imply what the killer did was okay. I guess I was over thinking it and should have just left but you never know with this player base what you are going to get. Sometimes it is fabulous memes and wholesome end game chats and other times it is reporting players because someone else did something that pissed them off (which is what I was worried about)
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Opening the gate and getting out won't get you banned - you're not teaming with the killer in that moment. Considering when you posted the thread, I assume the game has ended. But otherwise, the killer is the one holding the game hostage as he could move or down the survivor at any time.
For the future, I highly advise you to immediately get out if you notice a situation like this - the survivor that's being bodyblocked in a corner will benefit much more out of this as the game can finally come to an end instead of sitting there and waiting, 'cause the killer most likely is not going to move
I'd report in this case and follow the procedures listed here: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/kb/articles/139-game-rules
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