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It's not lag switching

Doctor_Derek
Doctor_Derek Member Posts: 93
in General Discussions

VERY FEW people actually lag switch. I've seen it legit 2 times in 1200 hours. Just because you lagged and lost in a chase doesn't mean you can get salty and say the Killer was lag switching.

Take the loss and move on instead of tarnishing an otherwise fun game.

Comments

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    You just had a salty survivor say you lagswitched huh? you poor thing.

  • Doctor_Derek
    Doctor_Derek Member Posts: 93

    @Global said:
    You just had a salty survivor say you lagswitched huh? you poor thing.

    no it happens whenever lag happens.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994
    edited September 2018

    There are multiple methods of lagg switching, of which I won’t go into detail. The most popular method right now can be done by anyone, and is fairly rampant. Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect. If it only happens while you are near the killer, here are the 4 possible reasons why:

    1. The killer is using WiFi.
    2. The killer has a crappy Internet connection or slow connection. This includes streaming.
    3. The killer is using the method described above.
    4. The killer is using some other form of lagg switching.
  • Judgement
    Judgement Member Posts: 955
    edited September 2018
    There were multiple scenarios where I thought the Killer was lag-switching but it actually wasn’t.
    I would take a phantom hit and not become injured for half a second, then the Killer would appear next to me after he was running in place or in a consistent direction for a while.
    If it was a lag-switch I’d have been teleported to him, not the other way around.
    Though I found it sus that that Billy only happened to do it when all gens were done and had been chasing me the entire match.
    I’ve seen it happening in PC and PS4, neither of these are lag-switches so much as networking bugs. Because if it was lag, Survivors would be teleported back to where they were when the lag-switch was activated.
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited September 2018
    In 2k hours ive seen quite a few.

    However, often its just the killer has a terrible connection, and shouldnt be playing killer at all, thus resulting in lag switch accusations.

    if they are claiming you did it, in multiple games, your lag-spikey internet probably isnt good enough to keep queing as killer, but they do anyway and say “well you should have looked at the lobby ping meter” which may wont display a noticable spike in the 60secs of lobby, because most people arent staring at that tiny bar with eyes glued to it for the countdown.

    not saying that you did, just giving a common example
  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Judgement said:
    Because if it was lag, Survivors would be teleported back to where they were when the lag-switch was activated.

    That is only one possible result of lagg switching. It depends upon what event occurred, and what telemetry your system actually receives.

  • Doctor_Derek
    Doctor_Derek Member Posts: 93

    @Lowbei said:
    In 2k hours ive seen quite a few.

    However, often its just the killer has a terrible connection, and shouldnt be playing killer at all, thus resulting in lag switch accusations.

    if they are claiming you did it, in multiple games, your lag-spikey internet probably isnt good enough to keep queing as killer, but they do anyway and say “well you should have looked at the lobby ping meter” which may wont display a noticable spike in the 60secs of lobby, because most people arent staring at that tiny bar with eyes glued to it for the countdown.

    not saying that you did, just giving a common example

    My internet pwns. It's def their internet. I live in washington dc with great service.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    I've seen a lot more of it in recent months. It's very easy to write macros for this type of thing, especially given it's P2P.

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    So that's why mine fs up when I play surv and broadcast
  • Mringasa
    Mringasa Member Posts: 980

    @Lowbei said:
    In 2k hours ive seen quite a few.

    However, often its just the killer has a terrible connection, and shouldnt be playing killer at all, thus resulting in lag switch accusations.

    This. My biggest problem with some Killers. They have a "decent" connection, but it turns into ######### when they are Streaming. I get that people want to share their games with others, it's a great tool to bring in new players, but if your connection is mediocre at best, you need to stop Streaming or stop playing Killer. Rubberbanding and Teleporting all over is annoying AF, and I don't want to be on either side of that equation. You ruin the game for everyone playing against you, and it's a pretty ######### way to get kills.

    Either invest in a better connection, or play Survivor. It's what I'm stuck doing atm until I can upgrade the connection. Sucks, as I much prefer to play Killer, but it's unfair to anyone who would be in my Lobby.

  • Terrortot
    Terrortot Member Posts: 423
    Its obvious on ps4, cant move yet everyone is getting insta hooked. 

    Usually happens as soon as gens are done.
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Lowbei said:
    In 2k hours ive seen quite a few.

    However, often its just the killer has a terrible connection, and shouldnt be playing killer at all, thus resulting in lag switch accusations.

    if they are claiming you did it, in multiple games, your lag-spikey internet probably isnt good enough to keep queing as killer, but they do anyway and say “well you should have looked at the lobby ping meter” which may wont display a noticable spike in the 60secs of lobby, because most people arent staring at that tiny bar with eyes glued to it for the countdown.

    not saying that you did, just giving a common example

    Also the ping in lobby can be different the in game ping due to the game actually running at full capacity

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Zanfer said:

    @Lowbei said:
    In 2k hours ive seen quite a few.

    However, often its just the killer has a terrible connection, and shouldnt be playing killer at all, thus resulting in lag switch accusations.

    if they are claiming you did it, in multiple games, your lag-spikey internet probably isnt good enough to keep queing as killer, but they do anyway and say “well you should have looked at the lobby ping meter” which may wont display a noticable spike in the 60secs of lobby, because most people arent staring at that tiny bar with eyes glued to it for the countdown.

    not saying that you did, just giving a common example

    Also the ping in lobby can be different the in game ping due to the game actually running at full capacity

    right
  • Terrortot
    Terrortot Member Posts: 423
    Lowbei said:
    They should simply add a ui element that tells the lobby host “your ping is too unstable to properly host a match, are you sure you want to screw people over anyway? click yes to continue”
    For lag switching they start a large download during the match so it looks fine in the lobby.

    As far as killers with legit bad connections, you can see it in lobby before game so its kinda on everyone who stays for it.
  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @Kaelum said:
    There are multiple methods of lagg switching, of which I won’t go into detail. The most popular method right now can be done by anyone, and is fairly rampant. Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect. If it only happens while you are near the killer, here are the 4 possible reasons why:

    1. The killer is using WiFi.
    2. The killer has a crappy Internet connection or slow connection. This includes streaming.
    3. The killer is using the method described above.
    4. The killer is using some other form of lagg switching.

    slow internet connection isnt lag switching. There is only 1 type of lagswitching and its when the host purposly disconnects their internet (usually through a modified ethernet cable with a switch) causing everyone to not be able to move yet the host still can because well they are teh host.

  • Mringasa
    Mringasa Member Posts: 980

    @Terrortot said:
    Lowbei said:

    They should simply add a ui element that tells the lobby host “your ping is too unstable to properly host a match, are you sure you want to screw people over anyway? click yes to continue”

    For lag switching they start a large download during the match so it looks fine in the lobby.

    As far as killers with legit bad connections, you can see it in lobby before game so its kinda on everyone who stays for it.

    You won't always see it in the Lobby. I've had numerous matches where it was a stable green ping in the Lobby, and as soon as someone gets in a chase the rubberbanding starts. Not just me btw, the other players as well. People should pay attention to how their games are going, and when all the players in the match are lagging, they should be smart enough to know maybe it's time to play Survivor because no one wants to play against a laggy Killer who doesn't have the bandwidth to support a match properly.

  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    Lowbei said:
    They should simply add a ui element that tells the lobby host “your ping is too unstable to properly host a match, are you sure you want to screw people over anyway? click yes to continue”
    If they click yes can they get the guillotine? 🤨
  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Global said:
    slow internet connection isnt lag switching.

    Please re-read my post and tell me where I said that was.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770
    1. The killer has a crappy Internet connection or slow connection. This includes streaming.

    cough cough

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  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994
    edited September 2018
    Global said:
    1. The killer has a crappy Internet connection or slow connection. This includes streaming.

    cough cough

    Again, where do I state that that is lagg switching. That is a list of possible reasons for what was being obsrrvered, which you obviously didn’t read.

    cough cough
  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    Sometimes I have lag spikes as well. I can understand it from survivors, crazy things start to happen to them like they teleport.

    Even if I could normally down a survivor without that lag spike, to show my good intentions, I pick them up and drop them until they stun me and start to run.

    I have never been accused of being a lagswitcher. Let them go if you have a bad connection. It is that easy.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770
    edited September 2018

    @Global said:

    @Kaelum said:
    There are multiple methods of lagg switching, of which I won’t go into detail. The most popular method right now can be done by anyone, and is fairly rampant. Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    The second sentence is someone literally slowing down their internet speed. It is not lag switching.

    hack wheeze

  • elementira
    elementira Member Posts: 27
    edited September 2018
    Judgement said:
    There were multiple scenarios where I thought the Killer was lag-switching but it actually wasn’t.
    I would take a phantom hit and not become injured for half a second, then the Killer would appear next to me after he was running in place or in a consistent direction for a while.
    If it was a lag-switch I’d have been teleported to him, not the other way around.
    Though I found it sus that that Billy only happened to do it when all gens were done and had been chasing me the entire match.
    I’ve seen it happening in PC and PS4, neither of these are lag-switches so much as networking bugs. Because if it was lag, Survivors would be teleported back to where they were when the lag-switch was activated.

    Had a game on ps4 and the killer was Freddy He lagged switched, where i teleported right back at him and apparently I had ran into the wall he then immediately pick me up and took 2 steps and lost connection. Even video saved it ^^ first time in all my ps4 dbd time have I seen this.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Lowbei said:
    They should simply add a ui element that tells the lobby host “your ping is too unstable to properly host a match, are you sure you want to screw people over anyway? click yes to continue”

    Trust me people would purposely look for those lobbies to play killer.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Uh... If the ping is a stable 50 in the lobby with no lag loading in and running around for the first five minutes, then suddenly we're rubberbanding ONLY in chases and unhooks and people start getting instant downed after a DS or flashlight save, I'm gonna report you for lag switching.
  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Global said:
    The second sentence is someone literally slowing down their internet speed. It is not lag switching.

    hack wheeze

    I’m sorry, but I am just going to have to believe that you are either not capable of reading the following, or don’t understand the statement:

    @Kaelum said:
    If it only happens while you are near the killer, here are the 4 possible reasons why:

    The term “lagg switching” is nowhere in that statement.

    P.S. You should have that cough looked into.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited September 2018
    fcc2014 said:

    @Lowbei said:
    They should simply add a ui element that tells the lobby host “your ping is too unstable to properly host a match, are you sure you want to screw people over anyway? click yes to continue”

    Trust me people would purposely look for those lobbies to play killer.

    then they should keep track of how many times a killer does that, and if its more than x%, they catch a temp ban, for knowingly ruining games 
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Lowbei said:
    then they should keep track of how many times a killer does that, and if its more than x%, they catch a temp ban, for knowingly ruining games 

    And how would you separate an unstable ping caused by the Killer's connection to the Survivors from an unstable ping caused by the Survivors' connections to the Killer? After all, connections go both ways.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @Kaelum said:

    @Global said:
    The second sentence is someone literally slowing down their internet speed. It is not lag switching.

    hack wheeze

    I’m sorry, but I am just going to have to believe that you are either not capable of reading the following, or don’t understand the statement:

    @Kaelum said:
    If it only happens while you are near the killer, here are the 4 possible reasons why:

    The term “lagg switching” is nowhere in that statement.

    P.S. You should have that cough looked into.

    Alright? you do say slowing your internet speed to lower your bandwidth is lag switching thats why i said it isnt. I dont care about the part that has to do with being near a killer. you said that slowing your internet speed is lag switching and i told you it wasnt. dont understand why you are so defensive about this.

    p.s thanks man i have had a cold for a couple days.

  • Jed
    Jed Member Posts: 254

    It's really obvious when somebody lag switches in this game. I've got around 50 hours and have had five games where someone was lag switching. If you have only come across it twice in 1200 hours then you must be really lucky and or play with friends only.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994
    edited September 2018
    > @Kaelum said:
    > Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and **has the exact same effect.**

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.
    Post edited by Kaelum on
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited September 2018
    Orion said:

    @Lowbei said:
    then they should keep track of how many times a killer does that, and if its more than x%, they catch a temp ban, for knowingly ruining games 

    And how would you separate an unstable ping caused by the Killer's connection to the Survivors from an unstable ping caused by the Survivors' connections to the Killer? After all, connections go both ways.

    simple, because the killers connection to the main server would be affected, and the others would not be a factor.

    for instance.

    killer makes lobby. killers ping to the main server spikes to red. a popup appears stating that your connection is not stable enough to host a game. you either click exit and make a new lobby, or you click continue, and get a mark on the server for it. the survivors arent a factor in that.

    the client would keep track of ping during the match, and if it spiked to red for more than a second or two, it also triggers a mark.

    after 5 marks for knowingly hosting bad ping games, you receive a 24 hour ban from making killer lobbies. then 48, etc to perma.

    no killer is going to risk losing the ability to play killer permanently over cable pulling or a bad connection.
  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @Kaelum said:
    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording. Like, “has the same effect”.  At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what?  I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

    Thanks for giving up but you literally say overloading bandwidth (slowing your connection) is lag switching. Its not.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    @Kaelum said:
    Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording like, “has the exact same effect”. At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what? I don’t feed trolls. Good day.