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Freddy with Tinkerer is tough.
Ruin Undying Tinkerer even worse. Would rather be up against an iri head huntress. Any tips?
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It will be nerfed soon, don't worry
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Even freddy has some counterplay, however minimal it is. He outright warns you when he's teleporting, and you can either respect it, or try to rush the gen to completion.
Trust me, you would rather not be up against an iri head huntress.
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Spread out on Gennys. He can only transport to one genny at a time with a cooldown. So if tinkerer procs at different locations he still has to make a choice.
Other than that, perhaps leave a bit early and watch to see if he is really coming or just faking his teleport. Tinkerer is strong on many killers, but certainly quite strong on Freddy. Especially when you get down to the last few gennys.
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Stealth, do totems, perks to help track freddy so you can quickly jump on and off gens
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Freddy with the "wow, at least there isn't NOED thrown in there" build (Undying/Ruin/Tinkerer/[BBQ or some other perk, but usually BBQ]) is absurdly powerful. He can consistently get to whatever gen he wants very quickly and chase you off for some powerful gen regression. With other killers, you have a chance to get that gen done if they're across the map, even if they're a high mobility killer like Spirit/Billy/Blight/etc., but against Freddy? Forget about it, if he has nothing better to do he is 100% on the way and will be arriving any second now ✅
Against a lot of killers, my friends might not even bother cleansing Ruin/Undying (some killers don't benefit too well from it, and some players don't know how to properly apply pressure with it) but against a Freddy? Ruin HAS to go because otherwise, we ain't getting to end game, even if the Freddy is rather low skilled. Ruin/Undying/Tinkerer simply plays too much of the game for him to leave Ruin up.
Anyways, tirade over. If he has Ruin, he probably has Undying. And if he has Ruin and Undying, he probably has Tinkerer. If I see a Freddy with Ruin, I take the time in the beginning of the match to play REALLY immersive, and get as many totems as I can (or just Ruin, if he doesn't have Undying). Big waste of time for you in the beginning, but you and your team will be glad it is gone by the time you get further into the match and aren't having as much time getting back and finishing the gens he originally chased you off of.
No ruin + yes Tinkerer Freddy is a lot more bearable. Just split up on gens so that you have a higher chance of being able to finish one, since he can't get to every single gen every single time. If you're confident in chases and know a teammate is nearby and can finish your gen if you get chased off, stay on the gen as long as you can and make sure he sees you for a chase. Otherwise, pay attention to your gen progress and make sure you get the hell out of Dodge before he even starts teleporting so that you have a better chance of hiding from him when he gets there.
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Yeah that was probably why we struggled, ruin was still up due to undying and we aren't the most experienced players who know all totem locations yet. Tinkerer is really strong, probably going to pick it up myself for the weaker killers.
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Stop grouping up on gens. Killer can only pressure one survivor at a time. While they are busy with one survivor three others can be fixing three gens.
Also its more efficient to work on gens separately.
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Don't worry after next patch it will be easier for you. Soon freedy will be nerfed to dirt. There aren't alot of killers left but there are some of us that use the basics ( tinkerer/discordance) to apply pressure and pop as are only slowdown. I'm not a fan of thano or corrupt and everything else either has too many stipulations or has been cried about and nerfed to dirt. lets not add tinkerer to that list or your que times will be even longer please. Your post should say Ruin/undying/tinker on freddy not just tinkerer.
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Tinkerer is a really good perk, even if you can't get to the gen in time as a slower killer, it still gives a lot of information. And yeah, Ruin+Undying is awful to deal with if you can't find all the totem locations. I wasn't a fan of the fact that it is getting nerfed, but I do think it is too powerful against less experienced players so I support the nerf for that reason.
Bruh
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I've gotten max objectives against a ruin/undying/tinkerer freddy with only 1 gen having actually been complete
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Did I say something false? Ruin/Undying will be nerfed next patch so that problem will be solved. Freddy will be nerfed soon as been said. Nothing wrong with tinkerer or discordance on there own. thano and corrupt my own opinion. Surge and other have to many stipulations and only usable on specific killers. Been seeing alot of tinkerer post and devs seem to flock to certain things that I wont elaborate on.
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Freddy with Tinkerer is broken? Freddy with Tinkerer sounds redundant. He is already Undetectable half the time anyway. Unless it's about the gen alert. In which case, walk away from the gen and see if he commits to the teleport. If he doesn't, get back on it.
I'm more annoyed at Freddy's Iridescent add-ons, but whatever.
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Just run when the blood starts gushing.
Freddy is one of those killers where you just have to play really well to beat him. He is just a solid killer all throughout. Tinkerer is good on him but not broken; at least he can't ambush you with it because the blood gushing gives him away. There is no silver bullet to beating Freddy you just have to play solid throughout the game.
Freddy playing slowdown builds is really strong and you have to be really good to beat him, or the Freddy has to be really bad (which isn't often).
I personally find Tinkerer more problematic on instadown killers like Leatherface than on Freddy. There is nothing more horrifying than a Leatherface stealthily sneaking up to you while you are doing a gen. You are way out of position and it's instadown time.
I don't see why how you can possible find Tinker Freddy to be more oppressive than Pink Huntress. Pink Huntress is the most broken thing in the entire game. A good Huntress with a pink axe can kill 5 good survivors in SWF without a single gen going off.
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Yeah I think it was the current ruin undying what made it so hard paired with tinkerer, not tinkerer itself. Thanks for all the advice.
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Unfortunately, it requires some degree of coordination and boldness. You need to work on 2 different gens at the same time, he can only be at one place at the same time.
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In general, I really wish folks would stop giving advice regarding running specific perks, because you literally cannot run a perk for every situation you might find yourself in unless you are playing SWF and you coordinate perks so that all bases are covered by at least one person (and some perks are only beneficial to the person using them, so even being able to do this wouldn't cover all situations for all players). Since matches are random and, unlike the Killer, survivors don't get to see who they are up against and thus can't possibly change their build to be better-suited against whatever Killer they are about to go against, saying "well, run a perk that helps with x" is not useful advice.
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I disagree. If a specific killer is giving you issues running a perk that helps you against that killer is certainly worth considering.
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Oh definitely. Back when Spirit was a huge problem I got into the habit of using Iron Will. You definitely need to shore up your weak points in the game. Having a specific perk loadout is part of that. Sure, you may not even run into the problematic killer or survivor matchup, but perks are part of the game strategy.
That said the actual advice given wasn't really helpful. Didn't even mention what perk to use and how to use it to keep tabs on Freddie.
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The Undying/Ruin thing is definitely the problem. Freddy with Tinkerer isn't that oppressive, it's much the same as Freddy using Surveillance in the same build. In fact Surveillance is arguably better in that build.
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Object of obsession against Freddy is technically wallhacks.
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