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Survivor vs killer wait times...
I play both sides, I'm a good killer and I'm a good survivor.
I'm bad at both to a degree however I enjoy most games I play.
What's not fun is waiting 10 (sometimes 15) minutes for a survivor match to be found, when a killer match takes seconds after readying up.
I can not say swf are respectable and toxic killers are fun but I can vouch for maybe switching sides on occasion
You don't need to win everygame or feel like you have authority every match just maybe relax and enjoy the small things on occasion
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Survivor wait times are that long because not many people like to play killer for obvious reasons.
A friend I used to play with always played survivor and when he got hit by some powers he used to complain a lot about it. Another friend and I told him to play killer just so that he could learn the mechanics and he could counter those things, his response was exactly this "why should I play killer, so that people can laugh at me?"
He's been playing survivor for 3-4 years, he is red ranks and is a click-click boy that likes to be toxic. He has never played killer.
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The game should track which side you tend to play and offer more BP or something for daily rituals from the other side. That's the easiest fix I could see, although I guess it would not matter as much for people with 3+ years who probably have maxed out builds anyway.
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Used to play killer, I got only so much patience left so I'm just gonna pass on the overall toxicity and bm, even if I die first and get facecamped it's better alternative
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Same
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And yet the devs keep doing things that encourage more face camping like the undying nerf. So strange.
I must have 100 plus messages from survivors complaining in my chat history.
I play survivor too but also hate waiting, and it does make me upset when I get camped and tunneled, mainly because my team is not SWF and can't figure out how to handle it. So what I typically do is if a Bubba or cannibal is facecamping I suicide myself to avoid the risk to the rest of the team.
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Sometimes I have to wait a few minutes even during peak times during the day when survivor wait time use to be seconds.
Now it takes a few minutes during the day. At night it takes 10-15 mins.
I am a survivor main. I don't want to play killer. But I do cuz every once in a while cuz the dailies are always killer dailies.
I try to ignore the daily but sometimes I'm tired of waiting for a survivor game so play 1 killer game and quit.
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All one has to do is take a good look at these forums and take notice of the topics:
- this killer is boring unfun please nerf
- this other killer is unfun boring please nerf
- killers we got nerfed are no longer played much and I miss them
- demo is the most balanced killer
so that is just referring to killers not perks (looking at you undying, ruin prior to that). For every “ds needs nerfed” there are 10 of the above posts and the devs do it.
we won’t even get into the swf issue, but suffice it to say it has a very negative impact on killers.
so be careful what you wish for survivor mains, you may wind up with 45 min Q or a bot as a killer because you found real killers boring and unfun.
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I was trying to play survivor today but the wait times made me play another game instead.
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I know BHVR tries to entice players into playing Killer with more bloodpoints, but the lopsided matchmaking and general toxicity is what keeps most people (especially new players) from playing Killer.
I wish there were a bot mode like there is with the mobile game. At least that way I can have a fun match without having to worry about all the previously mentioned downfalls that DBD is known to have.
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How do they entice killers with more BP? If you're thinking BBQ, yes and no, as that consumes a perk slot.
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Tell that to the survivors who crank out gens like no tomorrow, escape quickly, then complain about how little blood points they earned.
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Fallout the Frontier mod came out yesterday, for New Vegas. Twisted Metal style cars with cannons, questlines with branching outcomes and a huge playable state of texas as big as the rest of the game and dlcs. The nexus sites came back up so if my queue time is too long once I get onto dbd today (after I make my coffee in a bit slept a long time today) then I'll just jump back onto raid shadow legends or geta round to installing the Frontier since I downloaded it last night before I passed out.
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They goofed with 1.5x when it should have been straight double bloodpoints, a few more might have pulled themselves out of survivor queue an dloaded up bbq in that case. I'm honestly surprised the situation is so bad that even a bp event isn't easing up on survivor queue time by the sound of it.
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Killers just naturally earn far more blood points than survivors. Not only is it also easier to get stacks of BBQ than WGLF, but the blood point add-ons are also far easier to come across in your blood web than it is for survivor.
So like I said they try to entice you into playing killer since it rewards you with more blood points, but the general experience just isn't worth it.
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Yeah I can't wrap my head around that either. Could BHVR really not throw in .5 more blood points?
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lol yeah, ######### is 1.5 lmao
I guess maybe somebody thought the longer looking number seemed bigger and more enticing than a single digit 2? They must really think low of their playerbase if that was the idea behind it lmfao
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how many times do we got to explan this
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Likely their logic ha ha
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What's sad is that it used to be the other way around. Killer queues were long and survivor queues were nearly instant. How times have changed.
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"You don't need to win everygame or feel like you have authority every match just maybe relax and enjoy the small things on occasion"
Do not recommend. Tried it and the game ended in 5 mins. Regardless of which side you play, the snowbally nature of dbd mean if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.
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Sure. Once they make killer is playable
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I'm one of those people that plays whichever role has a shorter queue (which lately is usually killer), but I've been taking a break for a while... the 1.5x BP event has not enticed me to return to the game. My break continues. Not sure I'd bother for double BP, either, but I'm definitely not bothering for 1.5.
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No one wants to play Killer at Survior "Peak" hours when all the high rankers run loose..On top of that lower rank surviors have to "share" killers with high rank survivors..So, It is a cluster truck
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Most people take BM to heart that's why people don't like to play killer a lot, and it can be stressful. I've said this before, but going in with a mindset about not winning is generally the best idea. I tend to win a majority of my games more relaxed than I ever did when I stressed out about it. I play whatever killer I want, and I generally play clown, and he is perfectly viable even against some hardcore swf teams. Always go in with the mindset about not winning or losing, but trying to enjoy the best of the match, and ignoring the toxic manners if they choose to be that way, and it'll be a lot more fun for you in the end. People are going to be toxic, it happens on both sides, and if you are more relaxed. You are more than likely to process information about how you can be a better player in the end of the round, and fix the mistakes if you made any that round in the next round! :) If people followed what I said, then there most likely would be more killer players.
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There's are really simple fix for asymmetric queue times: offer a small incentive to swap to the side in need of more players.
This could be bloodpoints, but I honestly doubt even something like 10k per game would tempt players that much. I'd try 20-30 Shards per game to all players who queue on the side in need of more people. (Obviously, this bonus would only be available as long as one side's queue times were beyond some threshold and in desperate need of balance.)
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I just left a match as killer because the survivors were messing with me. I'll gladly take a short DC penalty so you can take your sorry ass back to the lobby for 20 mins. Don't be like those survivors and killers will want to play. More killers = less matchmaking
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I'd take Shards in exchange for that, but not BP.
I can get plenty of BP but Shards are always in demand for me.
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I play killer. I see the BM. Ignore it.
When I play survivor, I see the killer BM. Ignore it.
It goes hand in hand. I think what is frustrating for killer is you don't really have the time to BM whereas on survivor any form of time waste is helping.
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Am I the only one who doesn't experience these que times?
My average ques are 3-7m. Red rank survivor. I keep seeing people bring this up but I've never had this problem/cant relate.
Whats going on?
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That only happened during events, where survivors HAD to play killer, in order to get all the event points.
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Different time of day, other region and/or platform.
I tried multiple times to bring people to always include such info in these kind of discussions but without long lasting success.
Sometimes I think that such info should be displayed directly from the forum account like in other forums, it would make these discussions much more comprehensive. But it just is like behaviours posted statistics, without any real correlation.
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survs dont laugh at you if you are good lol
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Just the other day I killed 2 guys who were trying to bully me, 3 gens remain so I have to look for the other 2 survivors, I play on PS4 and because I have restricted privacy no one can send me msgs except for my friends, I had to also restric the people that can follow me because in those 2 mins of game left, those 2 guysI killed started spamming the follow so that notifications wouldnt stop popping on my screen.
It's not just the laughing part, it's the annoying part, I can stand the Teabagging, the click click, the msgs made me laugh at first but when you get so many notifications It gets boring and repetitive, I think I've had like 2-3 times a survivor has said gg to me, and one of those times the guy said It because he remembered me from the forums.
Im not trying to say Im the best killer on this game but like most veterans I know exactly how the game works, the distance a killer is able to hit a survivor through a window, the time It takes a survivor to drop a pallet, strong Jungle Gym setups, that's what a rank 1 has to know after all and that makes me get the 3k about 90% of the times and people just keep laughing and being mean.
Just because you are good doesnt mean people are gonna stop doing what they want. Go check good killer streamers like Truetalent if you dont believe me. Every killer on this game, good or bad has to deal with toxicity, if you have thick skin and a good sense of humor like me you wont care ######### about It, but most people dont feel specially good when they get so much of It.
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I really love ur idea. But it's impractical.
That means I can just play killer, go afk, and do other things and recieve free points.
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Than can we have more of those events? When was the last time these events took place? I been playing for almost a year and never came across such event.
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Thats simply wrong. Killer dont earn more than survivors, survivors ignore a lot of bp they could make.
I play solo survivor, and i have often more bp than the killer. But then, i do totems, i do unhooks, and i do gens, and i do chases, and in most cases, i escape.
Being solo also means genrush is not that common, and longer games mean more bp.
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It isn't about winning or losing.
If i lost and it feels like it was my fault then i don't mind, but the way this game works it just comes down to math and the rotten core of the game.
there is no mindgame in most loops if you know where to stand. Many loops are full of gaps and holes to see the killer or their glow making them boring and unfun to deal with.
On the other hand when i play survivor i go "man i screwed up!" or in the case of huntress "######### LAG" when the killer catches me. it is never because the killer did something.
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