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What plague needs to be balanced by only giving her one new ability
Plague is in a weird spot when it comes to balance, on one hand she is a killer where no matter what you do it helps her and one the other hand even tho she gets a powerful ranged attack it is tedious to get to the point where unless it's in your path you probably shouldn't get it. it is also arguable if cleansing even helps plague if survivors constantly do it to offset the amount of times she can use her powerful ranged attack in exchange for being healthy.
So what does she need? what she needs is a way to use the strong point of her power more freely but in turn it will have a shorter duration that will last just long enough to be used in a chase. Keep in mind that you can still walk up to corrupted pools and use them for the normal duration of corrupt purge.
New ability: Solicit Chant
Interact with a pool of devotion from a distance to gain corrupt purge at half it's duration.
- Distance 20 meters
- corrupt purge duration 30 seconds
- interaction time 3 seconds, movement speed is greatly reduced similar to leatherface in tantrum.
A few things of note i think that this ability while strong would be balanced since her duration is greatly reduced and this interaction is called solicit chant which means she will chant during the interaction which warns the survivor she is about to use corrupt purge and gives them time to get some distance.
For addons there is only a single addon i think should be changed and that is her iridescent seal.
Iridescent seal:
- Allows you to use solicit chant on any pool of devotion from any distance in the map.
- Tremendously reduces corrupt purge duration (60s to 30s and 30s to 15s when used from a distance)
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Not bad, that idea seems to help her if a corrupt pool is in the corner or something. That ######### would be scary.
Another cool power would be to switch between a stream of puke and into balls that explode, they travel slower and takes longer to charge but it can hit around corners, anything hit by it stays infected longer, and it’s more effective.
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The only issue i think vile has is simply consistency, players who are good at her would rather use the faster stream of vile and wont want to use a projectile more slow than her regular vile, It's also really easy to hit survivors with her power in the first place.
I think you would want to use this ability in a chase and try to use pools of devotion in corners as you chase since it is more worth it to ingest corruption like normal as you would get twice the duration. In my head it would be you just going to a loop like normal and than she starts chanting and your like "OH #########".
simply put during a chase unless you pass right by a pool of devotion you would want to use solicit chant and when you patrol or just hook a survivor it is more worth it to use ingest corruption so you have more time to use it and find survivors with it active.
i think if this idea is too strong a simple change could be to either reduce the time to 20 seconds or reduce the range you can use solicit chant i personally think it's ok like this tho.
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Yea your idea seems fine. I’m a survivor main so maybe when using solicit chant, drinking a pool takes 1 second longer than usual just because I imagine it would really throw good survivors off. We’d have to find a new comfort zone now that she doesn’t have to walk away from me to get her power. And also a if you’re fine adding this, she can’t use solicit chant if she’s too CLOSE. So it’s strictly used for drinking a distant pool. Otherwise you could body block a pallet, sip the blood that’s 6 meters away and always get that hit. solicit chant would make physically going up to one obsolete. What do you think?
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I don't see that as too much of a problem since if a pool is that close you should have used it instead of blocking the pallet, it's pretty easy to get hits with CP the problem has always been getting to pools since they are almost always out of the way. Also if the killer did this couldn't she have just used a basic attack all that gives you is time to run. the killer would also have less time in CP so if they downed you quickly they return to normal when they could have gotten another hit or down.
as said when using solicit chant she is slowed to nearly a hault and it lasts 3 seconds, i don't think the pools need their interaction time increased since they are still out of the way usually and i don't see it being a good change since faster is always better. also the time can be reduced to 20 seconds effectively limiting it to only 1 maybe 2 chases but i think the range should increase then so ingesting corruption is better since you would get 60 seconds instead of 20 seconds edit: that is if 20 meters isn't good enough.
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I like it, but i think baseline solicit chant should be at least 32 meters. Or better yet, within TR so you can use perks to expand her TR and chant range, but if she's undetectable then she can't chant.
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I don’t usually let plagues get a basic attack on those pallets. Also I kinda wasn’t considering the fact that she goes slower when using solicit chant. Only because now I’m sitting here trying to imagine this. I see a plague use solicit chant, but knowing that her speeds movement speeds are slowed, I’m just picturing exploits and ways survivors will punish that movement speed. And if that’s worth drinking a pool from a distance. I do like the idea of drinking from a distance, but her being slower than if she just walked up to one, i honestly think as a survivor I have the advantage. Unless I’m in a dead zone. If she respects the pallet I’m dead forsure but 99% plagues don’t wanna get stunned so tbh I don’t think she needs that slow down.
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I think the slow down is necessary as corrupt purge is pretty strong and being able to easily access it in a chase depending on the amount of cleansing going on is pretty good and the slow down is only during solicit chant not after you get corrupt purge.
If she didn't have a slowdown she would be able to pressure the survivor she is chasing with both an m1 and her corrupt purge after she gets it, if she is slowed and the survivor is alerted by the chanting the survivors only have to worry about the ranged attack if they kept running and 20-30 seconds is plenty of time to catch up and hit that survivor it's basically the same distance survivors get from sprint burst or slightly more.
edit: remember pools of devotion are rarely nearby it will more often be faster to enter corrupt purge with solicit chant, if a pool is nearby like in the path your chasing then obviously it's better in both activation time and duration to use that pool. It's also better to enter corrupt purge before you begin patrolling again.
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What about a secondary power where you build up an infection meter and once it is maxed out you can press the active ability button for a short corrupt purge.
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she doesn't need it as it is already easy to infect survivors to max, as a plague main i know i would rather just use normal vile because you can't really miss you will infect the survivor and with addons it's very easy to break them. most of the time up close unless your in the open you want to just m1 them anyway otherwise they might make it to vaults/pallets without you getting them to injured.
the problem has never been infecting survivors it's always been accessing her corrupt purge.
edit: oops i misunderstood what you meant, i don't think that would be that fair since you could easily just play like a huntress with that change. my solicit chant ability which is very similar gives the survivor a warning and time to get distance and you need to be in range of a corrupt pool of devotion which means survivors need to cleanse. it makes it so you can still choose to hold her back from her power which is fair since survivors are broken and easy to find.
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I should have said infected objects too not just survivors. This way you have a reason to still infect objects even when all survivors are already infected
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as said infecting survivors has never been the issue and also i miss understood your idea so read the edit if your haven't
as i said in the edit i think that would be like making her huntress and i also don't think she should have her ranged power without survivors cleansing. plague is about the survivors choosing the lesser evil which is being broken and loud or being healthy but giving plague an insane ranged attack.
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