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Getting really annoyed with the slugging lately

Like do I HAVE to run unbreakable? Cause I don't want to, but this slugging nonsense is getting old

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  • Hex_Salt
    Hex_Salt Member Posts: 443

    Is it slugging at the beginning or end of the match?

  • Karao_Ke
    Karao_Ke Member Posts: 1,221

    Slugging at the beginning of the match isn't necessary & just causes frustration. Everyone usually de-pips and the game ends before it ever even started.

    Slugging at the end of the match is a method for winning (3 - 4 still alive) or for nobody getting hatch (2 still alive). I've turned many games around because I slugged at the end.

  • DawnMad
    DawnMad Member Posts: 1,030

    Unbreakable or WGLF should work nicely. Also yes, if you want to work around slugging yourself you have to use Unbreakable, else you will have to depend on your team.

  • Terro
    Terro Member Posts: 1,171

    If it makes you feel better slugging at the beginning of the match for killer doesn't give them much, unless they're chasing another survivor right away or protecting an objective.

  • vacaman
    vacaman Member Posts: 1,140

    If all survivors come at me just to save someone you can bet i'll slug. I mean, why the hell wouldn't I? Why would i risk getting blinded, sabotaged, bodyblocked... When survivors just run at me an I can down them super easy it's their fault, not mine. Just don't play the 4 together and you won't get slugged, or at least it won't be efficient.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    This is completely untrue. Some killers need to have someone incapacitated ASAP, and then immediately look for another chase.

    The game is intentionally designed to have the killer at a disadvantage when 4 survivors are still alive, thus the killer needs to ensure there is always one survivor unable to do gens while in a chase with another. Slugging is the only universally accessible option to every killer.

  • Karao_Ke
    Karao_Ke Member Posts: 1,221

    I was referring to the killer slugging all 4 survivors, not just 1 or 2 (hence why I said people would de-pip).

    Obviously slugging 1 person to go after another is a method, I use it all the time.

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,531

    I’m fine with slugging as long as you aren’t trying desperately for 5 minutes to slug all 4 of us.

    Otherwise it’s a strategy you have to employ to win against good survivors

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    Look. People here can make silly recommendations here all day about the whole slugging thing that absolutely don't work and aren't practical.



    But if you don't run No Mither to counter slugging you're a coward.

    You know it, I know it, we all know it.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,346

    If survivors are grouped up, then slugging is the smart play. If the survivors split up, then slugging becomes much, much less viable as a strategy.

    At the end of the game, if the killer is frantically trying to stop gen progression, slugging is better than hooking. Hooking costs the killer time and saves time for the survivors, whereas with slugging it's the opposite.

  • VicThor
    VicThor Member Posts: 347

    My only problem is killers who sweat for 4k. Jeez he will pip for sure, but he still makes it boring as pipping and rank would matter.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    Sometimes all 4 survivors serve themselves up though, usually being over confident with their flashlights.

  • jrinkwater
    jrinkwater Member Posts: 314

    Uh.. you sound entitled. Killer isn't obligated to give you a good time.

  • VicThor
    VicThor Member Posts: 347
    edited February 2021

    Lol, I'm a killer main.... i think its boring and unnecessary. What's the point? Show off ? He is wasting his time, cause I bet he doesn't enjoy patrolling the down survivor neither. You should experience it as a survivor....

  • jrinkwater
    jrinkwater Member Posts: 314

    I play both sides. I enjoy survivor more but play killer equally. I am just not a fool to think anyone has to give me a non-boring game. No one is here for my idea of fun, so slug away. Killers like hag and oni thrive off slugging, so I can't be salty when a different killer slugs (which is harder for many by design)

  • VicThor
    VicThor Member Posts: 347

    You misunderstood me. Slugging is fine, what I said the problem is when people sweat their butt off to have 4k and slug the end game for ages just to have all the 4 survivor, when they have obviously won already.

  • Klakky
    Klakky Member Posts: 444

    Or you do it for survivors who sweat even more and tbag, dont get me wrong I let people escape in 80% of my games cause I'm nice, but if u tbag me on pallet etc. dont expect to be given hatch, expect to be slugged till hatch is found.

    If you outplay me fair and square I will try to give u the hatch but cant promise anything cause I got no idea what hook u on.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    Survivors using DS and doing gens instead of healing: eat my DS or slug me.

    Also survivors: slugging isn´t fun!


    Like... don´t you see the reason behind slugging?

  • SheKIndaSucks
    SheKIndaSucks Member Posts: 46

    With the undying nerfs, welcome to your future. I imagine it's going to be way more common at high ranks, given there's so little point pushing people off of gens.

  • Venzhas
    Venzhas Member Posts: 684

    Endmatch or not, it just shows you re a selfish tryhard sweating for 4k , and in lack of trust / skills lol

  • Klakky
    Klakky Member Posts: 444

    But wouldnt the survivor be a tryhard for camping said hatch instead of trying to save his teamate?

  • PepeTheCommie
    PepeTheCommie Member Posts: 6

    If the survivors play poorly and give the killer the chance to slug (e.g. down one person and seeing the entire team in nearby with IF) that is entirely on the fault of the survivors for allowing the killer a quick target, slugging is a genuine strat and can turn the games around massively for killers

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    These 3 perks completely shut down slugging. Still don't know why people aren't running WGLF. If more people ran this perk slugging wouldn't ever be a viable strategy.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    Aaaah yeah, people that try to win in a PVP game are selfish. Gotcha.

    You might wanna look up the term "Egocentrism".

  • Karao_Ke
    Karao_Ke Member Posts: 1,221

    If the survivors all end up being super altruistic/annoying with flashlights/sabo toolboxes, then yeah I'd understand ending the game early because it'd be easy to just end the match then and there.

    My main point is, if the game literally just started and you're desperately trying to down every single person from the start even though you don't even know where the others are (usually results to proxy camping a slugged body), it isn't necessary at all.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    People still sleeping on WGLF. Nearly one person running it and slugging for the match is nearly nonviable.

    When people complain about slugging it just shows they don't play killer almost at all. Slugging is required to win against good survivors.

    Literally just pick up and hook time is more than half an entire gen..every time you down someone...let that sink in. Roughly 15 seconds for a pick up and hook x3 other survivors, that's 45 seconds of gen time the other survivors gained.

  • JPA
    JPA Member Posts: 1,685

    Blame the pip system or the game designers. Loads of games Killers have to face SWFs, map offerings (or just bad maps without offerings), key escapes, and a wide variety of challenges, so it can be tough to even safety pip in a lot of games. At red ranks that iri devout medal can be the difference between a 1/2 pip, so I can't blame any killer wanting to maximize their pips when they can.

  • VicThor
    VicThor Member Posts: 347
    edited February 2021

    I understand you completely. But explain something for me you pip up, you reach rank 1.... What’s good? What do you gain with all that 4k slugging sweat? With bunch of boring, unenjoyable game?

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    my problem was often the only time I could actually get to use unbreakable was every time I switched it out for something else because I wasn't getting to use it lol. Same issue with calm spirit sometimes where suddenly I'd get plague or a doctor (or somebody using plague's perk) right after removing calm spirit after 4 or 5 games of it burning a slot for me lol. Fortunately, I have a decent idea of how to avoid doctor in match unlike some teammates I get which keep him busy while I can get gen points before looking for the hatch.

  • ProfGameAndTalk
    ProfGameAndTalk Member Posts: 326

    Sabotage a hook right in front of me and you bet I'm gonna slug that survivor. Makes no sense to let them wiggle free just because you don't think it's fun to crawl for a bit. Killers are trying to win, too.

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    yeah the revive speeds on that are a bit too high imo, too many times I've used it when the other guys got slugged to get one or two up and keep the game going and it's probably pretty frustrating to deal with when a swf abuses it against them. I did that solo. I don't want to imagine how a swf would annoy somebody with it considering you can only hit one person down at a time unless you're leatherface (unless I'm forgetting another killer that can do that on a whim).

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    Yeah people don't realize how good it is. I agree it's probably too strong.

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    It is good that an otherwise selfish perk was given a way to be helpful and promote less selfish play (it also gave it utility to bring it up with bbq in being useful beyond bp farm), it just needs a little tweak in the boost to revive speed is all in my opinion.

  • JPA
    JPA Member Posts: 1,685

    I've asked myself this often across multiple video games. I remember CoD 4 was one of the first games I played excessively online, and I think the ranking and prestige system was part of this (on top of it being one of the best games ever, obviously).

    I often wonder if gaining and showing off a rank, even on a video game, appeals to our monkey brains in some fashion, considering that as a species we have social hierarchies.

    For some reason climbing rank just feels compelling.

    However recently I've stopped really caring about ranking up, as I think the pipping system is quite flawed (punished for winning decisively, punished when playing against players with vastly different skill, punished for playing against an efficient SWF in a game not designed around SWF). However I'm slowly getting to the point know where I can hold my own on most maps, so I think it will happen naturally at some point. I'm happy hanging around purple ranks as a Killer for now.

    So yes, I'm not always slugging for the 4K, and I'll happily give hatch to people who play well or are screwed over by matchmaking. But I will never ever judge a killer who slugs for the 4K.

  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893

    If the killer is desperate for a 4K I can't really blame them especially when the game actively encourages them to get it things like the emblem system and adept achievements especially at red ranks practically demand that you get a 4K.

  • DBD78
    DBD78 Member Posts: 3,464

    It's how the game is. Nothing to annoyed about. If you are the last survivor and killer just let's you bleed out even after kicking hatch for BPs, then I can understand because there perhaps in that situation should be a way to ######### as survivor.

  • KolbyKolbyKolby
    KolbyKolbyKolby Member Posts: 623
    edited February 2021

    Slugging happens easiest when survivors allow it to. If I down someone, don't keep working on a gen 3 feet from me if you don't want to risk getting slugged. Don't try to heal the downed person immediately in my face, and don't rush to unhook someone if I have a slug nearby until I have already picked the second person up.


    I've had 4 different 4 slugs at 5 gens in my last 10 or so matches and every single time was because the survivors thought the best strategy to go against a nurse with a down is to dogpile on top of the downed person. You're not gonna have as much of a slugfest if you leave the bodies on the floor.

    If it is a common problem outside of that, then there are perks to help. I don't like bringing DS every game, but I do as insurance against someone immediately coming after me when unhooked. If you don't like being slugged, then bringing a perk to overcome it is something that may be necessary.

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    If you've ever played against good survivors, then you'll know why killers slug.

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    You don't even need those perks most of the time. Just stay split up and the killer will have a really hard time slugging everyone.

  • I just had a match where I could have slugged for the 4k; even after the survivors were being toxic.

    I didn't.

    My reward for being nice was to be insulted in the post game lobby. So I mean, that's what I get for not slugging- so my question to you is why on earth would I not do something beneficial for me if you are going to call me names either way? The ONLY reason to not slug, and to handicap yourself, is to make the survivors happy- there is no other reason....so....why would I do that if you're so miserable you are going to call me names and such anyways?

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,365
    edited February 2021

    I think survivors should look into why they're being slugged. It's often due to horrible positioning/spacing. That being said, I do get pretty annoyed when killers slug for a 4k in a pub match and treat it like the Olympics of DbD. I remember my first 4k....

  • Shirokinukatsukami
    Shirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,624
    edited February 2021

    There is a slugging epidemic right now.

    Basically standard load out is either Nurse, Huntress, Freddy or Spirit. Perks are usually some combination of: Ruin, Surveillance, Infectious, Knockout, Thanatophobia, Stridor

    Killer will go and slug from the start and it's not uncommon to see games end with 4-5 gens not yet done.

  • Shirokinukatsukami
    Shirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,624

    Love that hyperbole. You have to multiply it by three to get your narrative across.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    Not sure how that makes it hyperbole. It was pretty straight forward.

    I just layed out the math since most people don't understand it at face value.

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    let the bodies hit the ... FLOOOOORRRRRR

    make a montage with a soundtrack please

  • Freki
    Freki Member Posts: 1,903

    the first one you put up is we're going to live forever, are you referring to it's extra speed in others healing the one on the ground? or did you mean no mither that lets you get up without anyone?