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Why should a killer care about survivors and not camp or tunnel?
Do survivors really believe that calling everything tunneling and camping regardless of the situation makes people more inclined to play nice? I start caring less and less with each game I play and more and more I start doing what people claim I do anyway. Why should I not act and play the role that survivors tell me I am doing anyway? Why shouldn't I simply start playing in the way survivors are going to blame me of anyway, it makes playing the game way easier.
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Yet my point is more addressed to those that keep calling everyone a camper and tunneller. If killers are being labeled with those titles regardless of the situation, the actions of the survivors and all that. How are they surprised that killers as you indicate stop caring and simply do these tactics.
Survivors claim they want killers to not do these actions, yet most will tell you that you did those actions regardless of whether that was true or not. Yet they are surprised if you keep calling someone something that they will just start doing it, because there is no reason not to any longer. You get hate associated with it and the table no matter what you do, so might as well do it?
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I say it to both sides, play the other side with equal intensity and learn some empathy.
This would help survivors understand what tunneling is exactly, why it happens sometimes accidentally, and why it is sometimes needed to swing momentum.
It will also allow killers to understand why purposeful tunneling sucks for the survivor.
By all means play how you want. But after years in this game and all of my goals met, I am trying to play more relaxed. If I go all sweaty for a 4k, at this point, it is all ego driven. Like I can probably 3k easily playing pretty nice.
I guess at some point you have to recognize what kind of killer you are, and how would you feel if a killer used the same tactics against you.
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If I play nice where is the empathy in calling me an ez baby killer, a camper, a tunneller? All I see is one side asking for empathy and to put yourself in their shoes, while when I get destroyed no empathy is shown as a killer, when I as a killer am struggling no empathy is shown. Yet how dare you tunnel that survivor that ran up to you with their DS or borrowed time? How dare you after all gens are done to proxy camp the hook? Why didn't you go to your basement and cry, just be better! I loved the phrase of a survivor I had the other day: I do this to annoy the killer! when I ask them why they did what they did.
You are exactly showcasing my point. Just ignore and deal with the survivors that show no empathy towards you, put yourself in their shoes and decide. It is great that you can relax and get a 3k. Yet I am talking about players like myself that have what 200 hours in the game, what is the message we get? Learn to play nice, because that is 'rewarding' and gets you respect / not having to deal with crybabies calling you out about how BAD you are after they won and lets not talk about when you win... ooof.
If survivors want to have killers that play nice, maybe threat those that actually put in some effort differently? Whether I actual tunnel and face camp or not... the "empathy" I get is the same, so why exactly should we show empathy? Like the more I play the game the less empathy I have due to how I am treated when I do show empathy. Is this truly what people want to promote? I played survivor a bit as well, been face camped, tunneled you name it and frankly I get why they do it... that is the empathy I am learning; Killer you do you! Because I understand their frustrations.
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I totally agree!!! In some ways it is a chicken or the egg type of thing. I also remember being nice/new and just getting tbagged and hate mail. Accusations that either had no basis or there was a reason for it, i.e. I see your friend hiding near your hook. All of which made me a "sweaty tryhard" killer. Which I see as a compliment.
And I was a sweaty Mfer for years. It has taking me a long time to get to this point. And, if was a long journey as a killer main through the world of survivor to get to this point. But I would definitely say I wouldn't have felt this way 1, 2, or even 3 years in the game.
And, to survivor mains, if you are one of those that bully newer killers are just play in a disrespectful type of way, remember you are creating killers that will get better and show you no mercy.
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I've played a game similar to DBD before that taught me the proper etiquette for these kinds of games.
First it would put completely random players in a lobby.
Then, one out of all of them was picked to be the killer analogue by the computer. The others were survivors, trying to complete an objective the computer also decides.
When the match ended, all the players are returned to the lobby.
Toxicity was punished by other players. If you were a jerk, expect to get tunneled by someone, even if they were on your side a minute ago.
I was taught that everyone who played wanted to have fun, and will gut you like a fish if you get in the way. I apply that knowledge to almost every multiplayer game I play.
I'm never actively malicious unless someone deserves it. I reward meekness and punish anyone who thinks that I'm willing to be T-bagged at pallets or sit there while they farm other survivors.
My mains are Executioner and Pig, if you couldn't tell by that last statement.
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To note, I do not actually punish other players.
I'm really just a tsundere.
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Just play how you like and don't worry about it. I use to be bothered by that stuff before but now I've stopped caring if I pip or escape etc and just go in to have fun and don't take it seriously.
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It is so hilarious that the majority of responses is to simply ignore and not be bothered by it. Yet they do not seem to understand what I am stating here, it isn't about how I respond on a personal level but the implications of the behavior that we see:
- Do survivors really believe that calling everything tunneling and camping regardless of the situation makes people more inclined to play nice?
It is about the request that the survivors make to killers to not use these tactics and yet how they treat people make them not care what you have to say. All I hear back from the community is exactly what I am stating that is being created: an environment where people are told not to care, to ignore and to disregard the enjoyment of others.
I guess I cannot be surprised, maybe it is simply an observation at this point as it is already so ingrained into the community.
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Because as killer you have to give survivors a fun experience
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Well, campin only works in lower ranks or people who are over virtuous..
Tunneling outside of D-strike and BT I can't argue against.
But,then again tunneling ties into camping..And what is worse then being camp is a moron not running BT who unhooks you infront of a campers face.
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