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Saying "just do totems" to people who complain about NO ED is lazy and dumb advice that lacks nuance

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  • ReviloDBD
    ReviloDBD Member Posts: 597

    The reason I disagree with this entirely is because I actually LOVE running Small Game as a perk (I think it's fun) and having something to do in a game besides rushing gens. Doing Totems genuinely makes the game more enjoyable and interesting for me, and I also feel useful for doing them since for some reason I have noticed that no body else seems to bother really (unless they are running Inner Strength).


    With Small Game I typically manage to do 3-4 Totems per match, and still complete usually 2-3 Generators per match as well.


    That's just me by myself. Imagine if others were running it too and actually cared? It would be SO easy.

    This is me playing Solo Que.

  • TotemsCleanser
    TotemsCleanser Member Posts: 732

    NOED will eventually get nerfed so don't worry. It's just a matter of time, specially now that they have nerfed DS and they will most likely nerf OoO. Just wait for it.

    As for now, I understand your frustration so I can only be pragmatic and try to give you some tips. Memorizing totem spawns is hard but it's feasible, I've been doing it for a while and I've gotten all 5 totems cleansed more often than not, many times by myself. Take the time to learn the spawns, it will do your job a lot easier and you will waste less time.

    Another tip is to run Detective's Hunch. Some people recommend Small Game, but I find DH more useful because it does not require you to run around the map and stumble upon totems, you can see them every time a gen is completed. Which makes it particularly strong against NOED, because unlike other hex perks it needs all five gens to be completed to be activated. If the match goes south and you can't see the auras because the gens are never completed, then NOED won't be a problem anyway.

    You can also use a rainbow map, but those are rare to get and you'll eventually run out of them so yeah. I do encourage that you use either DH or rainbow maps to learn totem spawns. Not just to have the upper hand and find the totems in the match you're currently playing, but also so you can learn where they spawn and use that information in your future matches.

    Encourage your fellow survivors to do totems. If you're with friends this is easy since you can be an annoying ######### through comms and be like "do bones or I'll hand your ass to the killer". I understand that you play solo Q, so tell the randoms in the post match chat that they should be doing bones. Whether they listen or not is up to them, but if you and other solo players start doing this, they might consider it. If you're on console, then I don't know because I don't play console, but I think it has its own way to communicate with other players right?

    Last but not least, try to track killer perks. This can be tricky because some perks won't be apparent at all and you'll have to guess, but it's still feasible. If you know that the killer has Sloppy, Thana, Ruin and Thrilling Tremors, you know that they can't have NOED and thus need to waste no time doing bones (except to cleanse Ruin lol). If you see the killer bee line to you when you're getting healed behind a wall, chances are they have Nurse's. If the killer seems to have very few perks, or you can't seem to track the fourth perk, or even the last two, it may be good to go and try to cleanse every totem in the map. Specially if the killer doesn't seem too concerned by gens popping all across the map. Remember that many people who run NOED try to combo it with Blood Warden, so being unable to track the killer's last two perks, and gens flying without the killer giving a #########, usually means that they are running either one or both of these perks.

    NOED will get nerfed though, it's just a matter of time. A friend of mine had an awesome idea, which is to turn NOED into a token perk, which will give you two tokens for every totem standing (dull or not) after the last gen is completed. If survivors were lazy shits who did no bones, then the killer will have ten tokens, thus ten insta-down hits. If only one totem is standing, which usually means that you weren't lazy but had a hard time finding that last totem, the killer will only have two insta-down hits. If no totem is standing, then they will have none (same as it is now). NOED could even become an "indirect" hex perk, in the sense that it would rely on totems standing on the map, but it would not lit up as a totem itself. It seems like a pretty solid idea imo, idk what anyone else thinks.

    Overall, I'm not completely against NOED as it is now because usually only bad killers run it (which means you will most likely have time to cleanse all bones before it activates), and I'm always trying to do all bones even if I have to do them myself. But I do feel it's a bit busted that a bad killer can get kills he does not deserve at all solely because of one perk -the same way a bad survivor could abuse DS before the upcoming nerf, or how a mediocre team can counter a killer completely with the current OoO. Did these things have counterplay? Absolutely, tunnel the guy with OoO out from the game, wait 60 seconds so that DS is gone. Was it /fair/ counterplay? Absolutely not. To me, it's the same when it comes to NOED. It does have counterplay, but it's unfair that the killer is granted insta-down M1s for the rest of the match because you missed ONE totem in the sneakiest spot ever.

  • Weeb_H_Toast
    Weeb_H_Toast Member Posts: 195

    ok but,





    just do the mother ######### bones

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    I only play survivor solo and using that as an excuse for not doing totems shows that it's the survivor's fault when things like noed activate. Plenty of tools to aid in the search and survivors control how long gens take to complete. Not doing the totems show lack of concern (until bad mouthing killers for a perk) and a rightfully deserved punishment. Do the bones or don't complain about the repercussions.