Spirit player says "Get good" lmao
Played a match and after the round was over with all 4 death the killer wrote "Get good"...as a spirit...with stridor...with the two best addons...
When I'm not wrong spirit is not a hard killer to learn right?
And no, it was not a swf or meta perks. I'm rank 15
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Thread is pointless without showing the survivor perks. If it's the usual 4 players with DH, DS, Unbreakable etc then it's a bit hypocritical to complain
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And if you get good enough to beat them then they will come to the forums to complain about survivors being too op :)
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She won’t be saying “get good” when she runs into a coordinated and optimal 4 man SWF. Like does she honestly think she’s good beating 4 solo que players in what I would assume be mixed ranks with the 2nd easiest killer in the game? People always assume survivor mains are the toxic ones in this game but it can go both ways. Don’t listen to people like that.
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I main Spirit, and I've been completely overwhelmed by SWFs before (and the occassional skilled solo queuer). She's strong, yes, but there is counter play, and if survivors can force her to react to them instead of the other way around, she's in for a bad time.
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Yup, this.
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No? I don't care if someone is good or not. I just don't like this unsportsmanlike behavior at the end of the round.
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Unfortunately DBD is rife with unsportsmanlike behavior, on both sides. I have left chat enabled for a long time for the few matches when someone is pleasant, but I'm so close to just turning it off at this point as I get toxicity from survivors at least 3x per session, in victory or defeat.
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Well I hate people who say 'git gud' without constructive criticism, but you are wrong as well. Spirit is not that easy, Stridor doesn't make her an annihilator gun. Do you think that label 'hard' on her is given just because?
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We have no context besides what you provided to highlight how hypocritical the player supposedly was. Some screenshots of the 5 players builds and the post-game chat (with the names blurred, of course) would go a long way to confirming your claims.
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Yea they meant just learn how to hide good can't chase what you can't see
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Meanwhile, on the other hand, a "git good" is probably the nicest thing killer players see being said to them by the opposite side on a daily basis.
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Well unlucky that you had to go through that. However, that doesn't mean all Spirit players are toxic. I main Spirit and 99.9% of the time don't use Stridor. I'm never toxic unless survivors are toxic to me first. Win or lose, I say ggwp and move on.
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Spirit is easier than she seems, all you need is a good headset and duration addon's and your set.
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Spirit is easy idk what you're talking about. I used to main spirit and she is incredibly easy. She just requires game sense and a headset. The mindgames survivor can do easily become predictable. Put on stridor and yes, its like using training wheels. Play with pink or purple add ons to bust the game. She is labeled "hard" only because of the dev's interpretation of her ADEPT which is frankly off just as it is for most other labels.
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The irony of that situation.
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I used to play on her a bit as well and equipped stridor because everyone made it seem like she becomes unstoppable with this. Idk, my headset is not bad, it's a mid tier maybe, yet it didn't do anything great for me. My point is, some of her mechanics might make your games as a killer a bit easier, however, she overall needs understanding of survivor's next move. Hearing a survivor near you while phasing and even seeing scratches doesn't make you teleport straight to them, and if you fail to phase right into their face, you wasted a lot of time and probably survivor will run away. So, what I'm saying is that Spirit requires skill and practice too.
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Someone wake me up when they hit rank 1 with clown or demo
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Well if you want to know if she's not hard to learn, why not try her yourself?
This way you can make a real argument instead of just saying something.
Imo if you start saying this and this killer is easy to learn without even trying it yourself, than you are no better that that person who said "get good"
And at least try her in the highest rank possible to get a good understanding of her 😉
In lower ranks, yes she can demolish survivors.
Get in the high ranks and it will get significantly harder.
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Quote: "When I'm not wrong spirit is not a hard killer to learn right?"
Spirit may not be the most difficult killer to learn but she's still mechanically 10000% harder to play than survivor.
Yes, that's an accurate number.
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Idk spirit seems like one of the harder killers to learn to play optimally vs decent opponents. Maybe that’s just because I don’t have headphones or stridor and usually have to play with my volume low lol.
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Labels don't mean anything... It literally says Freddy is hard as well, and says Billy is easy.
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Playing Spirit is way easier than playing solo Q.
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I marked the word "mechanically" for a reason.
Solo Q may be a pain very often but that's not because of any "super demanding survivor mechanics". It's because of terrible decision making and lack of coordination.
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Mechanically, all everyone does is press M1 and M2. I'd say when it comes to looping, against spirit, the killer has the advantage if they are indeed using stridor, which is 90% of spirits I encounter at reds.
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M1 and M2 is how mechanics are used but that doesn't correlate with the number of mechanics that come into play.
A spirit player -whilst phasing- has to deal with mechanics such as:
- literal blindness in terms of characters
- footsteps
- scratch marks
- breathing / grunts of pain
- moving grass if there's any
- and risks going into the cooldown-mechanic when messing up the phasewalk.
The survivor meanwhile literally only moves around and possibly uses a pallet or window to avoid the phasewalk with no other mechanics involved.
Sure a good Spirit won't miss but that's not the point. The bottom line is the killer has to deal with more overall mechanics making it more demanding.
Let a complete newbie play survivor and then Spirit. I bet you most people will pick up survivor gameplay more quickly than Spirit (especially since it's mostly sitting on gens if no one is hiding).
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Only thing you mentioned above that works against her power is the blindness, everything else works in her favor.
And that is incorrect. Like I said to something else, at high ranks like 15-20, new killers have an easier time than new survivors.
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Yeah I've had killers win by the skin of their teeth when teammates have dc'd or them using OP add-ons and say gg ez.
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Killer says get good, meanwhile plays one of most easiest killers in the game with a braindead perk to go with it.
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I have proof that that is the case. Dollars to donuts this guy messaged that killer first before he told him to get good. Killer almost never goes out of the way to say that unless they were previously messaged.
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And we have to ask ourselves, does this conversation even warrant all that?
I mean, this is day one DBD stuff. Someone tells you to get gud? We've all heard that 1000 times. We don't need proof or to play judge and jury to that, do we?
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I find it ironic a clown main is calling Spirit easy to play. Not trying to start anything, but if we're talking simplicity of mechanics, Spirit is in another tier at least from Clown. In fact, she's probably the second HARDEST to learning the beginning, it's just east to use her once you know how. It's like reading a book for the first time, once you understand the language, then of course it's much easier, but you still have to learn the language first.
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Not really honestly I wouldn't say Spirit is the second hardest than someone like Blight for example. All you need is a good set of ears, and you can 4K easily. With someone like Clown you have to strategize what you're doing with the bottles, and have to know how to use them properly. With Spirit just use your ears, and if you want throw on Stridor as well to make it even more easy.
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I don't know why people are making comments like this. I play mostly survivor and while a decent amount of killers either say GG or nothing at all (if they got "beat"), a good portion of killers are the first to be snotty in post game regardless of what happened in the match. Really have no idea why this forum loves pretending that every snotty killer HAS to have been provoked first 🤔
You can literally get face camped in the basement after getting downed with NOED and the killer will find a way to be snotty to you after the only thing you said in the chat was a nice message to the other survivors.
I don't think OP would be complaining/making this post if the rudeness from the killer wasn't out of nowhere, you know? What's the point of complaining about a rude killer if you were the one to start the flame war? I have no problem with killers who throw back a little fire if someone else is mean first, but don't act like there aren't a TON of killer mains who are jerks in the post game chat first before any of the survivors.
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You do know that plenty of people like to paint their own narrative after a post-game argument, right? We get them on the forums a lot more often than people want to admit, trying to make themselves feel better by calling out whomever they were arguing with and conveniently forgetting that they were being just as bad if not worse.
Edit: also, seriously, go play more killer and you'll see just how toxic survivors can get, it is way more common than toxic killers. You don't see it in solo very often because solo's don't hang around after dying to berate people.
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I'm well aware (and maybe my reply appeared naive- I didn't mean for it to appear as if I'd never seen anyone try to garner sympathy here with a fudged story)
But a lot of users on the forum seem to default to assuming that a survivor is almost always falsifying the narrative and the killer isn't (depending on who posted the thread). It's a major "killer good, survivor bad" vibe. I'm not making any statement about if there are more toxic survivors than killers or vice versa (especially considering that the sample size to find toxic survivors is much, much larger, due to the fact that every game will have 4 survivors and 1 killer per game), simply that a lot of threads made by upset survivors get "yeah, but what did you do?" as if it's unbelievable that they DIDN'T do anything to warrant out of the blue toxicity from a killer, or "what was your build?" as if that's an excuse for otherwise unprovoked killers being rude (which should mean that the same is also an excuse for a survivor to be tight, right? That doesn't seem to apply as often, though).
Anyways, saying that killers can be toxic for no reason at all isn't also saying that survivors can't be, or that there aren't more toxic survivors than toxic killers. It's also not like I haven't seen toxic survivors either from survivor or killer side, too. But I never said survivors weren't toxic, just that killers can quite often be just as toxic without provocation, in my experience, and that's why I find it weird that people immediately jump to casting doubt on OP's assertion that nobody did or said anything toxic before the killer made a snide comment. I personally have had SO MANY GAMES (playing with a nontoxic swf) where the killer just decided to be a jerk in the post game chat without any discernable reason, so I find it easily believable that a killer could have been randomly snarky to poor rank 15 OP LMAO
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MImimi Killer is sooooooo hard XD LMAO!
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Are you ok ?
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No I was just laughing so god damm hard because of the Joke you wrote XD
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It's a fact that Spirit is mechanically more demanding than survivor.
I even listed the number of mechanics involved in using both sides. Your argument on the other hand is:
"mimimimi killer so hard"
Because there's literally no difficult mechanic for survivors. There's nothing you even have to practice to play survivor as survivor gameplay is intentionally all about decision making only.
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I've been there every rank reset with clown. :) Rank doesn't mean much.
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I don't know what you mean or understand what you are saying.
But anyway Killer have so many advantage like the broken hitbox, look how many Killers Go for unfair Hits and say "Killer is sooooooo hard"
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I think people generally don't get what I mean. Anyway I agree Spirit has little to no counterplay resulting in easy 1v1 downs. All I'm saying is there's more going on mechanically when playing Spirit as opposed to survivor (and that's a good thing).
Imagine it was mechanically difficult to run as survivor because devs added a certain key combination mechanic that was needed to run at full speed. Now that would result in a truly terrible survivor experience.
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??Ehh... Yes? Anyway you use funny words magic man. :D
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Magic man? Never heard that one before but I'll take it I guess haha...
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What do you tske from me?
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Youre talking about mechanics and saying spirit is more mechanically demanding but then to argue your case you basically say that theres a lot to keep track of so it makes it harder than survivor mechanics. Spirit is as lethal as she is for a reason, its not very hard to track whatsoever. If they go far you follow the scratch marks if they play to not leave scratch marks you have your headphones for that one. Her movement is the same as any other character she is barely any more mechanically difficult than regular m1 killers as far as movement and downing goes. While theres grass you have to keep track of like you said, survivors have to deal with an invisible killer walking around LOL, much more stressful to deal with than some grass rustling.
Survivor is infinitely more difficult mechanically than most killers, unless we're talking Nurse Huntress or other killers that require more skill. Theres a reason why theres 15 minute videos on how to perform a fast vault, and why an entire spirit breakdown is 15 minutes. With how much a mistake costs Survivor vs Spirit, its funny that youd even imply that spirit is mechanically difficult. If you lose distance youll get your power back in a couple seconds to try again lmao
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I disagree that survivor gameplay is only about decision making and that there is nothing mechanically difficult about survivor. I think that the looping is where you find the "mechanical" skill.
This is coming from someone who switched from controller to mouse and keyboard on DBD- I picked up killer just fine on KBM, without issue past my first 2 or 3 games??? (If even that many) but it took an embarrassing number of games (I'm not even gonna name my estimate of just how many LOL) before I could comfortably and properly control my survivor on mouse and keyboard to get to the same level I could have on controller (I'm STILL not even quite there).
In my own opinion, killer tends to require much simpler movement than survivor. The exception would be certain killer powers (Blight, Oni, Billy, Nurse, etc.) that require knowledge of how their hit boxes work, their movability/ability to turn, and so on and so forth, and then once you understand that, you must hone your ability to control that power. I would 100% agree that killers like that are, at the very least, just as mechanically difficult as survivor, if not even more difficult (and I do think there are many killers that require more mechanical skill than survivors). But if we consider chase interactions, survivor requires a decent amount of mechanical skill. You don't just get a fast vault on a dump truck tile by understanding how you get one and wishing that you would get one- you have to move properly. (Just like how I can understand that with Deathslinger, I see survivor, I get close enough to survivor, and I shoot survivor. I will not hit my shots unless I have mechanical skill and am properly acquainted with his ability. Same can be applied to a lot of killer abilities- you can understand, but you do need good execution/mechanical skill)
That's only a single example where good execution is important on a survivor's part and where you can easily separate a survivor with bad mechanical skill and one with good mechanical skill. Sharp and tight looping, proper angles for vaults, and timing could also be considered part of mechanical skill, no?
I would actually put Spirit at the very low end of mechanically difficult killers- certainly NOT any higher than survivor if you lumped both roles + every killer into one single category. Her power even seems to be more based on decision making and being able to pay attention to visual and audio queues (not really mechanics related?) rather than requiring mechanical skill. Even once you get to what separates great Spirits from good Spirits- good knowledge on typical survivor looping behavior which therefore gives them the ability to successfully predict/guess where the survivor will be even while ignoring the usual audio/visual queues- it still is more based on game knowledge and good decision making rather than actual mechanical skill.
So unless I misunderstand what you mean, Spirit actually seems to be one of the least "mechanically difficult" killers to me, and at least in my own opinion, not 1000 times more mechanically difficult than looping as survivor. Not to say she doesn't require skill, I just don't think it really is so much based on execution, you know? That just be my onion, tho
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Very well said, idk what that Bubba pfp guy is on today
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