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Dead by daylight is not ready for competitive:

3:34:15 , the pig match. This match shows why dbd is still not ready as a game and for it's mechanics. Pig is too weak of a killer, and with only a dash that can't counter pre dropped pallets and big loops the gens just fly very fast to 2 gens until traps (RNG based) don't do enough because you're not gonna use all of them before the exit gates get powered.

To conclude devs, I'd balance the weakest killers and nerf the really op perks before even doing a tournament

Comments

  • NekoGamerX
    NekoGamerX Member Posts: 5,298

    never gonna be either,anyone who said is be ready someday fooling them self's.

  • WeenieDog
    WeenieDog Member Posts: 2,184

    Anne Hathaway to portray the next jigsaw killer in saw 59 4D VR?

  • SmarulKusia
    SmarulKusia Member Posts: 819
  • Shirokinukatsukami
    Shirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,624
    edited February 2021

    Pig wiped the floor with those survivors though. Only the meg got away and she only did because she fished a key.

    While you are absolutely correct that DBD is not a game that will ever be ready for competitive play, Pig a "weak" killer was more than strong enough to massacre the survivor team.

  • chadbeastofprey
    chadbeastofprey Member Posts: 437

    ??????

    when have the devs ever said they wanted it to be a true competitive game?

  • jrinkwater
    jrinkwater Member Posts: 314

    Well, to say it can NEVER be competitive is silly. (not to the OP, but other posters)

    To say it isn't ready for it, I agree wholeheartedly. One of the worst balanced games I've ever played with the weirdest mechanics and plagued by bugs.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 5,638

    You are implying those things can't be fixed.

    This game will eventually die if there isn't a good pro scene. There is a reason LoL is still one of the (the?) most played games in the world.

  • chadbeastofprey
    chadbeastofprey Member Posts: 437

    comparing LoL to dead by daylight is very funny, good joke.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    Watched this and all I could think is why aren't my survivors this bad. I can go 10 matches straight and not get a single survivor close to what I witnessed. Not top level play but I think they were trying to avoid the 50/50 snowball chance of high skilled player games.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,440

    Pig is weak in that format. Not capable of downing stronger runners efficiently. That's just a typical Pig game in competitive play. It's what happens to a lot of M1 killers when survivors can dump map resources freely because their teammates are hyper-efficient on gens. The survivors were solid, even if builds were odd. The corner tech was brilliant. Put Pig in a lose-lose. Pick up and lose the gen or slug and lose the hook.

    Her build was really suspect though. Not taking Corrupt Intervention on Shelter Woods is ascended. Ruin does nothing if you can't patrol. Shelter is pretty big and Pig isn't mobile. So not only are you giving survivors free roam immediately, you're devaluing your Ruin by not taking Corrupt. Pig isn't going to accumulate a lot of hooks in comp, so perks like PGTW and Devour aren't good on her either. The better play was Corrupt/Ruin/Undying/NOED.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 5,638
    edited February 2021

    You are obviously missing the point. I don't disagree that this game is ready for serious competitive play. What i disagree with, is the notion that the reasons that it isn't ready, can't or shouldn't be fixed. The reason being, is that this game will die, likely in the next couple of years, unless they start doing these kinds of things. Another competitor will come along, and do it right, and people will leave for that game. I mentioned LoL as an example of something that, despite having a decent size field of games similar to it, it became extremely successful, largely in part due to the company taking competitive play seriously. So seriously, in fact, that they pay their pros an actual salary and run a league very similar to the NFL or other major sports leagues.

  • chadbeastofprey
    chadbeastofprey Member Posts: 437

    Yes. I know all about esports. Dbd doesn’t take skill the same way other games that have pro scenes do. It also doesn’t have a big enough fan base for something that large.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 5,638

    Again, you aren't making any rational point. I didn't say anything about the current state of the game being ready for it. I agree with that. I'm saying those things should be fixed. But if you want to disagree, fine, but at least give a valid rational reason why the game shouldn't be one ever, as in, devs DON'T fix those things.

  • Cardgrey
    Cardgrey Member Posts: 1,454
    edited February 2021

    Lol is nothing special. 2009 lol final fantasy 11 has 0 pro teams. but this ps2 gem is still playable on PC with servers and a sizeable community. what does having a pro group have to do with anything.if you make a good game they will come. O yes also it came out in 2002.

    the point i was making is this game has 0 cosmedics. the only fee they have is the 12.99 a month you pay to play. also i think they added 2 1 dollar extra inventory slots. they still to this day make a profit. here check it out yourself http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

    also steam numbers are deceptive as most people bought a physical copy .

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    the issue is pig has one of the highest kill rates in the game so i doubt the devs will touch her

  • stargazer9
    stargazer9 Member Posts: 649

    No it's not. We all know that. If it is then these "championships" won't have 1000 rules player have to follow and gameplay that is heavily limited.

  • Leonardo1ita
    Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,317

    Casual doesn't mean it has to be unbalanced, first. Second, nobody ever said it to be a casual game

  • GodLikeTerror
    GodLikeTerror Member Posts: 1,054

    I think that's wrong though in my opinion at least. Solo survivors have been getting more aware of just splitting up on gens. If everyone just splits up on gens the game is done 95% of the time. You can loop for like 15 seconds, and as long as everyone glues to gens the killer doesn't stand a chance unless they slug.

  • Pepsidot
    Pepsidot Member Posts: 1,662

    I've never watched a DBD tournament before, I've heard they have some weird win conditions and so players play strangely. Is this still the case?

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    No, we actually need to balance around this. Killers getting 2 hooks by the time survivors completed 4 gens, even with full slowdown build and heavy restrictions on the survivor perks, is kinda ridiculous.

    The tournament is good in the regard of showing how strong even heavily restricted survivors are.

  • ClownIsUnderrated
    ClownIsUnderrated Member Posts: 1,031

    A game that's more based around RNG than actual skill will never be competitive

  • 6yXJI0
    6yXJI0 Member Posts: 589

    Agreed! Your win or loss can depend on how lucky tiles spawned and how many pallets.

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    Apart from all the many different things which make competitive dbd not make any sense, other games like mobas and fpses where everyone sweats and runs only the most meta stuff can still be fun and interesting to watch. In dbd those matches are pretty dull imo, even with a commentator excitedly talking about gen progress and current amount of slugs

  • Mugombo
    Mugombo Member Posts: 509

    First of all, did I just watch green rank players because that’s what it seemed like to me? That Pig had no idea, was even getting stuck on corners. Those survivors weren’t even good either, they just did gens.

    And yeah competitive games actually require skill, this game requires none. Also the amount of RNG involved is insane so no chance, and it’s been made to deliberately have RNG

  • chadbeastofprey
    chadbeastofprey Member Posts: 437

    watching dead by daylight at the highest level of play (l o l) is very very boring. all of the balancing in the world could not change that.

  • ArchFox
    ArchFox Member Posts: 205

    DbD tournaments?

    Lol, imagine playing Basement Bubba at a tournament.

  • Leonardo1ita
    Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,317

    this is exactly why the game is not ready at the moment. Just with RNG luck for tampered timer and sketch/gears pig can have a guaranteed kill 20% of the times if it is the last box to search. That's it

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167

    It will never be, too much RNG, too much random stuff and not enough people following it to guarantee money from sponsors.

    Most esports ventures have ended in monetary disasters, even a powerhouse in that department like Activision-Blizzard with several very succesful games had to fire a lot of their esport division workers and while we dont know the reasons odds are they are money related (as almost always are in the corporate world).

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,207

    Can't believe this game actually have people tryna to be competitive and completing in tournament.