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This is how you stand up to Behaviour

Dizzy1096
Dizzy1096 Member Posts: 918
edited March 2021 in General Discussions

So as we all know DBD is basically bully sim 2021 at this point. Killers are intentionally weak because its the survive with friends buddies that are the main playerbase for this game and they're the ones buying all the cosmetics. You're meant to be used as an attractive chewtoy to lure these people in "Look come bully these silly killers and make them rage! it's fun LOL!". No matter how much people say killer leaves them feeling anxiety and stress your mental state and enjoyment of the product doesn't matter to this company, they just want to use you as bait to bring in the bigger audience. It's all about the greens $$$

I only had 3 games tonight and 2 of which had the usual OoO SWF on Midwich (maps were random but it shows how dire the rotation is)

Except I'm not angry, I'm not tilted, I'm having a blast! Why?

Well you see it starts out like usual. I get a lobby full of flashlights and I know what's coming. As soon as the game begins I look around and confirm the anticipated Object of Obsession aura, ah yes there he is pointing and tbagging for attention.

Walk down the halls towards them

Hear the familar sounds of multiple flashlight macros being spammed at once

Try not to have a seizure from all the strobing lights at this point lol

Get the survivor down because luckily these players are pretty trash (despite one having 2k+ hours LOL)

Bubba facecamp.exe

[BAD WORD] just got real

Now you see the survivors are in a predicament. They don't want to lose to a facecamper so they know they got 2 minutes to start rushing those gens, except they don't want to do gens! they want to clicky clicky bully the killer! and they want to save their friend who at this point is starting to sweat as the fear in them rises knowing this first hook might be the final hook for them

The rest do the only thing they know how, they macro their flashlight even harder for attention "chase me! chase me mr killer!"

Bubba nope

By this point it's too late. They've wasted too much time. They're not going to get those gens done in time and their friend is almost certainly going into the second hook state.

They'll run in desperate for the save, and a well timed chainsaw makes swift work of them. Then you sit back and watch the other desperately mash their space bar during the struggle phase

and that's the gist of it, you camp them out one by one. Knocking them down like dominoes. The salt, the disconnects, the baby rage quits, the post game fury. Both games went the same, and this is becoming a pretty common thing for me week by week. I'm now the toxic player.

You see these people were sold a lie that this was a fun game where you get to torment killers and make fools of them. Except now it's the survivors raging, running to reddit and the official forums to complain about facecamping and more Bubba nerfs. It's the toxic swf that are being bullied now and unsurprisingly, they don't like it. Karma is a female dog.

I'd show some endgame chats here but it's NSFW.

If anyone wants any tips on good builds and strategies for maximum effect let me know.

Leatherface is the hero Dead By Daylight deservers, but not the one it needs right now.


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  • JPA
    JPA Member Posts: 1,685

    Don't forget NOED

  • Pilot
    Pilot Member Posts: 1,158

    I'll be more disappointed if they're not as good as they're toxic.

  • Dizzy1096
    Dizzy1096 Member Posts: 918

    It's universally agreed that killers are underpowered and has consistently been repeated by many of the best players over the past 4 years but ok dude. You and your friends struggle with survivor we get it.

  • Beelzeboop
    Beelzeboop Member Posts: 1,306

    Insidious, Lightborn, and two from BBQ, Enduring, NOED, Iron Grasp, Agitation, Franklins's or Thanatophobia.

    When camping I honestly like Iron Grasp and Agitation so I can basement hook the survivor while their friends try to blind me.

    Normally I don't run a camper build, but sometimes the SWFs bring it upon themselves.

  • Dizzy1096
    Dizzy1096 Member Posts: 918

    I like Lightborn because it straight up ruins their fun. You don't take it for your fun, you take it to ruin their fun. It's between lightborn and franklins. I've had clicky clicky survivors actually disconnect once they realized I had Franklins lmao!

    Rancor is another beauty, they really hate that perk and at least one survivor sure as hell won't be trying any late game saves.

  • Chchchcheryl
    Chchchcheryl Member Posts: 1,531

    Everybody liked that

  • Shaped
    Shaped Member Posts: 5,870

    People who facecamp me don't get out any reaction out of me tbh. If you want to play that way it is your choice. Have fun.

  • chadbeastofprey
    chadbeastofprey Member Posts: 437

    Yes I forgot this entire community is a hive mind, true story. How silly of me to forget that.

  • scenekiller
    scenekiller Member Posts: 890

    Ah yes, extreme platitudes are surely a completely rational and absolutely not biased way of thinking at all! You’re right!

  • Beelzeboop
    Beelzeboop Member Posts: 1,306

    Facecamping is for when you look at the lobby and see a group that seems overly altruistic or like they're in a SWF.

    Or if you see more than one flashlight.

    If survivors can be toxic without repercussions, the killer can too.

  • Beelzeboop
    Beelzeboop Member Posts: 1,306

    I don't actually care to be completely certain whether they are or not. Survivors are toxic about a quarter of the time, so you'll have about one toxic survivor per trial.

    I never said that flashlights are overpowered. People with flashlights tend to be going for Altruism points. ######### Altruism. I hate being blinded since it makes it so hard to do anything you might as well be stunned. I've been blinded without even having the light on my screen. I can still land some hits while blinded, but mostly because they think it's safe to T-bag me or whatever dumb ######### they thought was funny. I run Franklin's just for these kinds of pricks.

    I specifically play Pyramid Head because of this #########. Survivors have to pay some level of attention to the environment. Survivors have to give the killer a modicum of respect. They're not used to that. But they very damn well should be.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,387

    Survivors shouldn't be toxic. Killers shouldn't be toxic. Toxicity is never the answer. 

  • Beelzeboop
    Beelzeboop Member Posts: 1,306

    I literally have nothing going on in my life.

    Yeah, yeah, call me a basement dweller or say "get a life" or crap like that, but I want to play this game, and I want to have something adjacent to fun.

    I like this game. It's the only game I own that's actually worth playing, or that I can talk about to anyone.

    But I hate being bullied 24/7 by people who think that they're objectively better than me in every way. People who just want to make fun of me because it's easy. Because I'm not able to hurt them, regardless of how upset they make me.

    I'm not going to buy Civ 6 just to play a game I don't want. I'm not going to waste the one hour of video game time I get per day playing with entitled pricks.

    If they want to be toxic, I am going punish them as much as I can. If they want to piss me off, I promise you,

    I WILL BREAK THEIR IMPURE BODIES.

  • Beelzeboop
    Beelzeboop Member Posts: 1,306

    I certainly hope so.

    I am constantly about 1 hour away from a mental breakdown, and I'm pretty sure that's not particularly healthy for me or the people around me.

  • Kellie
    Kellie Member Posts: 1,328

    All survivors are doing is using what the devs are giving to them.

    If you're gonna whine at least whine towards the people causing the issue.

  • WalkedMoss92
    WalkedMoss92 Member Posts: 275

    "This is how you stand up to Behavior" Neat title....considering not once in your rant/story did you ever "stand up" to the creators of this game. It's just a story of another Bubba main camping everyone they come across.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    This is how you do nothing but punish ultra casuals that probably don't care or know about the things you're complaining about.

  • Xpljesus
    Xpljesus Member Posts: 395

    Pretty cringe post but 10/10 outcome, insidious Bubba best Bubba

  • Mysterynovus
    Mysterynovus Member Posts: 318

    Came back to this post to see what's changed. Before I thought OP had a hyperbolic post, but this takes the escape cake.


    I want I WILL BREAK THEIR IMPURE BODIES tattooed on my back with a chibi Oni.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    One more reason to despise toxic SWF teams.

    They mess with the killers and it's the solo queue afterwards that has to suffer for that.

    Everytime I verse a killer that facecamps first hook I'm just like "aaah yeah... They probably faced some cocky SWF teams earlier".

    As if solo queue wasn't already a roulette but then we get to face killers that are going into the match with a hostile mindset because of toxic SWF teams.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    I'm not saying it's "right" to punish someone else. What I was saying is I understand why killers be like that at times.

    Hell, even in real life people be like that all the time. Person A annoys person B and person C gets to deal with angry-person B. That's just how people are.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    But what I mind is, Im willing to be on hook for 2 mins so other can do Gen, while Im looking at the internet stuff. But I dont want to have to smash button on 2nd hook. Hope it will gone 1 day.

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,245

    Didn't get past the first sentence. When a post claims "we" I stop reading - you are not we - we are not you. Learn to speak for yourself and not others.

  • bobateo
    bobateo Member Posts: 368

    Oh, I don't disagree with you. I can understand why a person may do something. I might even empathize with the circumstances that brought them to that point. However, once you take your rage out on people who had nothing to do with it, you've (disclaimer: general 'you' here, not you specifically) become the bully you despise, and there really is no justification for it. Because that's exactly what a lot of bullies are - people who feel out of control and angry at circumstances in their life that they can't control and take it out on people who they think can't fight back.

    On the flip side of that, do you think it's acceptable for survivors to have a bad game with a Killer that makes it miserable, taunts them after, and then they go into the next game intending to completely ruin that Killer's experience? I think that's equally crappy and just as reprehensible.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited March 2021

    I have no problem with the Bubbas that face camp and tunnel toxic survivors.

    The problem is they keep doing it to me and I'm not that at all, and against solo queue folks =(

    I can't even rush gens in solo queue.

  • bobateo
    bobateo Member Posts: 368

    The first time I got camped by a Bubba, it felt almost like a rite of passage. "You just haven't played DBD until you've gotten a good ole Bubba camp".

    I have met many a cool Bubba's tho and one soul who was just trying to get out of the match with a 1K. We could not get poor Quentin off the hook before the ECG ended, but we all gave Bubba our items. (I was the lowest ranked survivor in the match, probably high yellow, the others were purple and red, the Bubba was a yellow.)

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,288

    Just curious, why trying to justify the behavior of some Killers? Like, whenever a Killer player does something which is not nice, people go like "Yeah, he probably had a bad game before", instead of just assuming that this player might just be a dick?

    And, in theory it is possible that the same happened to the SWF-Team - maybe they had a bad experience with a Killer before and then needed to vent?

    I mean, I had two Ghostfaces lately who were really not nice. One used Agitation and Iron Grasp to get me into the Basement and then camped me while leaning with leaning Add-Ons, meaning nobody could get me. He had 10k hours, so he most likely was bored of the game.

    And another Ghostface got run for two Gens and then proceeded to keep me slugged for almost 4 minutes while teabagging me the whole time.

    It is quite unreasonable to think that all players who facecamp or do similar stuff got "bullied" in their games before. Especially since some players feel bullied, just when they lost the game. I have seen threads here where Killer players complained about "being bullied", because they got looped for a long time.

  • Another_LegionMain
    Another_LegionMain Member Posts: 399

    "THEY WERE LIKE ANIMALS, AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS!"

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    You got a point (as usual).

    I think the reason I tend to be more understanding when it comes to rude killer behaviour is quite simply my personal experiences.

    I personally rarely come across a killer who is just blatantly trying to be an arse when I play solo.

    However whenever I play killer my first game is usually against a tbagging, clicky clicky Object of Obsession team so I'm honestly just biased in the way I judge toxic behaviour based on the "frequency of arses" I encounter.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    Killers are "intentionally" weak is a false statement. Bearing in mind they're nerfing DS and OoO in 3 weeks plus all the other nerds they got in the last year I can't agree with that statement.

    I never camp but I respect the fact you got back at a toxic squad by doing it.

  • Freddy96
    Freddy96 Member Posts: 767

    Show those toxic urban evasion users who's the boss

  • Dizzy1096
    Dizzy1096 Member Posts: 918

    You can tell who is feeling a little targeted by this by who’s getting their jimmies rustled in this thread.

    Where did I say I facecamp normal survivors? I can just not stand in front of a hook if the survivors play normal?

    However if you come into the game with OoO and when first seeing the killer your entire SWF decide to start spamming their flashlight macros in unison these people are only there to troll other players and ensure they have a bad time. They get what they ######### deserve as the saying goes.

    BHVR knows this and they send my boys out there to be bullied for the sake of selling more cosmetics and getting more toxic players into the game but Daddy Bubba is there to make sure only 1 side leaves that game feeling miserable and it sure as hell ain’t Daddy Bubba.

  • Dizzy1096
    Dizzy1096 Member Posts: 918

    If I was as bad as you say then what I did wouldn’t be possible because you need your first hook fast to camp and it’s incredibly easy to loop a Bubba for 5 gens since he is hindered by pallets.

    I love how the survivors are getting so tilted by this. Y’all wanna click click, tbag and show me your aura all game for attention but once you get that attention you don’t like it.

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    You can play however you want, nobody's saying you can't, just like how survivors can bring flashlights and Object with their friends and play how they want. But making yet another post about facecamping as Leatherface is pretty cringe and we've seen enough of them. We get it already.

  • TicTac
    TicTac Member Posts: 2,416

    "So as we all know DBD is basically bully sim 2021 at this point."

    The "at this point" sounds wrong. It sounds like it got worse. But i think it got better for killer. They still need to change things and they are really slow, but it is the right direction.

  • SamRF
    SamRF Member Posts: 22

    I feel like I'm simply not going to chase them out anymore when all are bound to escape, which they often wait for. Just gonna get a book with me to read until they decide to leave with dignity and end the game. Waste their time, not mine.

  • Elena
    Elena Member Posts: 2,187

    The most AMAZING feeling of karma is when a survivor teabags while clicking their flashlight, just to end up being facecamped, losing their item and giving you salt in the chat, that's when you know you've won

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,288

    I mean, in general, people who are playing toxic are quite rare on both sides IMO. Its just that the negative games stick more to the mind. If I play 10 games against Survivors, I will remember the one teabagging Dude, but I wont remember all the other Survivors who did nothing.

    But from my experience, often enough when I had a rough game I end up in another game with the most casual people you can ever imagine. (rough in the sense of annoying Survivors, not that the game is difficult. Losing against some good and fair people is way less annoying than winning against some toxic people)

    It would be just unfair to let out frustration on them.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,264

    Please keep the personal disagreements out of the thread.

    As to the thread itself - I'm failing to see the relevance of it, there's so called toxicity on both sides of the game. I think that's pretty much the nature of a PvP game at the end of the day. As long as nobody is cheating or exploiting anything and playing purely with what the game gives them, I see no problem and that goes for either side.