How to counter Blight + BBQ as Solos?
Just had a match with a Blight who used BBQ and pummeled all solo survivors under 5 minutes.
I suspected he had BBQ but the others didn't and since I couldn't explicitly tell them, it was inevitable.
It's also Blight so he could get to us from one end to the other in a blink of an eye.
Any advice as to countering Blight with a BBQ?
And no, I don't wanna hear:
- Go in a locker.
- Hide behind gens.
or anything like that, cuz not all survivors catch on that easily nor does Blight take too long getting here.
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Get into range.
.... get better at chasing? (that sounds stupid but well)
Don't play solos.
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But people get mad as hell if I run SWF.
and furthermore, must I be forced to run SWF cuz of some perk?
Ridiculous.
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U can counter a perk with a perk u know. Use Distortion. It doesn't only hide your aura, it even tells you which perks he has. It can tell if he uses bbq, blood warden or nurses calling. Besides that it hides your scratch marks aswell.
And tbf this is more a random survivor issue. Everyone should always assume a killer uses bbq and play around it. Or simply play kindred since it tells you which way he is going. It counters bbq since you know he is coming so you can instantly run to a safe area etc.
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A trick you can do is walk four seconds one way then turn around mind game the killer. Or simply bewithin 40 meters. Some perks help Kindred the prime and best one.
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"I don't wanna hear hide in a locker" but dude thats basically the major counter of BBQ.
Is like asking "how to counter noed" and saying "don't tell me to do totems".
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Okay, so I must do the following:
- Assume BBQ is always there.
- Equip a counter perk for that exact perk.
- Hope other random survivors do the same.
Got it.
But I hope it works.
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That's because even if I do, others won't and what's the point if three other survivors die and I have like 3~4 gens left?
That's not helpful at all.
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But when you play solo you should have as a maximum priority your life, not to get everyone saved, sadly. Without communication you have to asume that some sacrifices have to be made.
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So, what would you recommend? Because every advice you got you didn't find helpful
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This isn't survival of the fittest.
Survivors are supposed to work together to survive.
That's why there are 4 sides to a gen and a shared goal.
What's the point in me using my teammates as pawns for some stupid perk that forces me to either: A) play in a group which every killers hate or B) Equip counter perks by predicting BBQ while I cross my fingers and hope others will do the same.
It's stupid.
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So far, I got:
- Run SWF
- Predict BBQ and run anti perks
- Hope others do the same
- Play selfishly and make sacrifices.
Do they sound like healthy gameplay to you?
I'm not blaming the advisers.
The whole logic behind it is stupid and that's the game's fault.
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Stay as far away as possible when someone is being carried causing him to waste as much time if he decides to come for you. Lockers are so easy to hide in also, litterally no excuse tbh.
I always assume the killer has BBQ
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The problem is not that you have no communication with your teammates. The problem is that your teammates are too bad to counter BBQ. And its the same in every game. When your team is bad, you will lose.
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So, SWFs are justified?
Then why do so many killers complain about it?
I'm trying to play like a normal person, but due to BBQ I have no other choice but to run smth killers themselves despise so much?
2 + 2 = 5?
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And no, I don't wanna hear:
Go in a locker.
Hide behind gens.
or anything like that, cuz not all survivors catch on that easily nor does Blight take too long getting here.
"help me! but don't help me in the most effective way possible because I randomly decided those are bad"
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Buddy, it's more like:
"Help me! But don't give me alternate ways that would make the game more toxic than it really is! If those are the only ways to win, then screw this game!"
sorta thing.
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no. you are just refusing to listen because you for some reason decided that the counters to bbq aren't good.
literally the most counterable perk that exists that isn't a hex perk...
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Okay,
- Run SWF
- Predict BBQ and run anti perks
- Hope others do the same
- Play selfishly and make sacrifices.
Which one would pick? Cuz these were the only ones I got so far.
Or if you're so smart and creative, I'm super eager to hear your theory professor.
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Ok i make it easy to understand.
1. Swf
2. Killer
3. Solo survivor
This list is wrong, but the point is do you want to play the side with the handicap? No, you dont want to have to deal with bad teammates? Then play swf. Is it easier and could be boring? Yes, then play solo survivor. Pick your poison and dont let some people on a forum decide what you do.
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This is a solo queue and matchmaking problem. If your getting survivors that don't know how to counter BBQ, that is not BBQ's fault.
BBQ is a perk that has over four counters. But, since you asked for advice, I'll give my best.
Depending on where the person was hooked, you can stealth away after the four seconds have passed. Depending on the map, this is either very easy or very hard, but again - Not BBQ's problem. Or just stick to the gen and loop the killer if they come to you. Depending on how many people are in range, and what the other survivors are doing, they might not even come for you.
Blight will use up all his tokens to get to you, so you know he can't use his power again for at least a bit. Loop him according to the Blight's skill. I've legitimately versed only one good Blight, so my experience is not very good, but sticking behind long wall loops and being safe seemed to counter him somewhat. A bad Blight is just an M1 killer with good mobility and a very punishing power of they use it wrong.
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Killers complain about SWFs all the time.
They hate gen rush, coordinated tactics, fast communications and etc.
Bullying is only part of their hatred.
Yes, I have acknowledged that.
But my teammates are only bad at versing BBQs, which means the game has to be revolving around countering BBQs meaning that would limit creativity and thus will make DBD pretty stale to play.
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I hate repeating myself, but here goes.
Yes, I get that.
But they still have a vast advantage against dumb solo players since it allows free vision for a few seconds.
And the survivors (most of them anyway) don't realize BBQ is there unless they literally see a killer running at them with in seconds.
I'm not saying people run BBQ for auras, but I am saying it still has a bonus effect that puts solo survivors in a handicapped situation.
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Thank you.
At least yours made some attempts at trying to make it a fair match.
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No your not forced to run swag to counter a perk. You provided yourself with the answer in the post even if it’s one you don’t like.
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or you could do the things that make sense and require little to no effort
1) get within 40 metres of the hook
2) hid behind a gen
3) get in a locker
and if you don't wanna do those there's always:
4) uninstall
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I think the biggest problem you have is just the Solo Queue issue. A lot of perks heavily punish Solo, not just BBQ. NOED is probably the biggest one in my own opinion. Solo Queue is just... A bad experience. A lot of it is due to matchmaking. Hopefully the MMR will fix that, but hey, I doubt that.
My honest advice is just play with your friends, if any play this game. Yeah, Killers get mad but really, just play how you want to play on both sides. Both sides get mad over the most petty things, so there is really no pleasing everyone. As long as your not toxic, I don't think much is wrong. Most killers seem to think ALL SWF are the sweaty kind, which is just not true.
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So my answer is not force myself to play SWF?
That's coming back to score 0. Meaning, your contribution is close to zilch.
Thanks anyway.
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Well, the only real counter are lockers, hidding behind gens, getting on range or running Distortion, what else do you want to hear? there is no magic trick, Blight is very very fast if he sees your aura he can get on you way faster than you can change tile and erase your scractchs, the only real counter is blocking your aura and the only way to do that is those 4.
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- running swf isn't a counter. it just means everyone understands the counters to bbq because you can communicate
- yeah? so? how is literally countering one of the most used perks in the game with another perk a bad thing?
- that's how solo works. people face issues and try to learn how to deal with them. and hopefully they won't have your attittude when looking for help and will actually listen to the advices given
- works for some, play to your best and if others don't do the same, hope they learn from their mistakes
you also missed other counters that people gave, like get into the 40m range of bbq for instance. are you not reading your own thread?
people not understanding the game does not mean something is op.
when my friend that I sometimes swf with says "you don't make sounds while you aren't injured there's no way he could have found me there" or how he always forget how bbq works but keeps complaining that he gets found accross the map.
It's not the games fault he doesn't understand how ######### works. and bbq doesn't become op just because he always forgets about it.
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Thanks mate.
I'll take it or leave it.
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loop him to death
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No your answer is lockers and gens.
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I've never mentioned BBQ being OP, but you sure seem to believe I do.
and your advice about standing within 40 meters is a possible method but most likely unrealistic.
I don't want to run all the way from one side of the map to the other just to prevent myself from being seen.
My teammates won't do the same anyway.
Your idea will only work in a SWF situation and I have said my piece regarding that.
And my attitude has nothing to do with my points.
I give credit and appreciate clear, well-thought out methods even if I don't agree with them.
Spouting the same old stuff is dull and not to mention stale. Try harder.
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That’s an odd response.
That’s like saying you could know the killer is using Nurse’s or know where their Devour Hope totem is, you can’t communicate those things to your team either. That’s just how it is when you play solo.
As long as you know how to counter BBQ, that’s all you can really do. Playing with incompetent survivors is the risk you take.
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Of course you have to cooperate with your teammates as solo, maybe I didn't explain the point correctly.
You have to work together until doing so will cost your life. You can't make them to play better, if they lose against BBQ the best thing you can do is try to survive by yourself.
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You cant be mad at the killer for using a pretty weak perk just because survivors couldn't be bothered to learn or think of what the killers running. Happens so often even a red ranks and its embarrassing... like imagine being rank 2 but not understanding basic and common killer perks...
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Same way you counter a killer with Discordance. You run away from your idiot teammates.
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I never play around BBQ unless I'm going to be the last survivor left. Chase skill conquers all. So, how to run a Blight:
1. Test whether they can 180 flick or not. If they can't, it gets a whole lot easier.
2. Assume Compound 21 or Alchemist's Ring. The Ring is really problematic. You'll have to be super mindful about not deadzoning yourself on a rush hit.
3. Be safe-ish with pallets and make Blight burn extra tokens to break the pallet or get a cheeky hit. Don't greed anything.
4. Keep something between you and the Blight. It's like Nurse. Don't give him a straight line shot. Make it a 90 degree flick at best.
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Lockers and gens. Ez pz. And, if you say don't wanna hear this, that just makes it sound like you simply don't want to put any effort in your gameplay.
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Your question is really silly considering you know 2 answers already. You just dont wanna accept them. You cant always save your teammates but you can protect yourself. Use a perk (tapps I think?) That protects your aura, otherwise you just need to use The normal ways of avoiding bbq. Its not difficult
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The way I see it, it didn't matter what you did. If you recognized he had BBQ but your teammates didn't, that's on them. Unfortunately you got some bad teammates and there's nothing you can do about that. It's just the nature of solo queue.
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so you want us to give you counterplay, yet in the same sentence you say that you wont accept answers that list you the obvious counterplay to it?
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Always assuming there's Bbq is probably a good idea. Perk wise I find Kindred really useful for determining if the killer has Bbq. Unfortunately there's not much you can do about your teammates not catching on.
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Yee it's all been said I guess so nothing really to add... i personally do the mindgame of running away from a gen and coming back. some actions are common sense and need no perks. not sure how this gets you bent out of shape. best of luck in the fog
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If I'm playing Killer and there's an Obsession, I have to assume every Survivor has DS. Why? Because its popular and I can't tell otherwise. Best advice is to adapt and move on.
Personally I don't mind that Survivors use meta perks and SWF. Every tryhard abuses everything they can to win a game, I've done it so why wouldn't they. Just learn from it, change your playstyle to counter or get used to the meta.
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As a billy main, I absolutely use bbq specifically for the auras. Ive played since 2016, I don't need bps for anything. Bbq is incredible for information on high mobility killers when the survivors are too silly to use one of the counters
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If it's a full solo queue, hope everyone has Kindred.
It gives you a lot of information, but also shows you the direction the Killer is headed in once they finish up the hook. You have to be paying attention, but it can give you a few seconds if you choose not to jump in a locker. The hook bubble can screw you sometimes though, since it overrides everything in that spot for a few seconds, but I almost always get a good idea of where the Killer is moving when I'm running it.
I hate the Blight. Can't figure out that damn bounce and how to dodge it yet. I've only survived one match, and that was with an obvious 3-man SWF who took me in as part of their group. Was a great match, but one out of dozens is pretty ugly. When it's an all solo match, we die pretty quickly.
Rank 6/7 for reference. Play against a decent amount of Red Rank Killers, but even Purple Rank Blights make me die a little inside.
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How to counter blight? Turn left.
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All of this isn’t very helpful
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