Survivor vs Killer Perks

Malvanos

So here I am, 2000 hours in and balancing between ranks 1 and 2 with my girl Huntress and Oni. I quickly realized that every single killer perk has a counter. Whether it be to do totems or not to do em (HG), gen rushing, obsession baiting Save the best for last, etc... What keeps aggrevating me is that near to no if not all meta survivor perks have an outplay counter strategy. It's not about skill half the time at these ranks, im not playing against survivors, im playing against their perks. Getting 12 hooks on huntress at Rank 1 is way too impractical so I resort to 2 slugs 1 hook, or etc... The problem is that 98% of my games lost are because of DH, Unbreakable or BT. DS isn't as much of an issue since I don't tunnel 90% of the time. Why can't we nerf OR add killer mechanics to avoid mindless 3-4 BT stacking and DS plays? Like I don't want to play pyramid head and I want to outplay survivors, but when I DO "insert dominance" I still lose. Not because I'm the worst player out of these survivors, but because you simply can't outplay 3-4 stacks of meta perks unless you want to play like the biggest A**hole and have a super dull game. Curious as to what everyone thinks, I have 500 hours on survivor (I know it's not alot), but having these meta perks on survivor myself I feel like I can troll and play terribly AND get away with it. How many times can you say you made 5 mistakes on killer and didn't pay for it? I think its a problem of a lack of counterplay for these perks, but let me know what you guys think :)

Galklife

Your post is quite contradictive "What keeps aggrevating me is that near to no if not all meta survivor perks have an outplay counter strategy." While in same post You wrote "DS isn't as much of an issue since I don't tunnel 90% of the time." (wow DS has counterplay/ way to be useless), I can bet survs with unbreakable (and playing normally) dont use their perk in over 50% of their games. DS and Unbreakable can just not be used in game isnt that their counterplay? 0 use from 2 perks, even if your STBFL has counterplay (if obsession notice that) you still get use of it.

DH biggest counterplay is latency (and thats why ppl started using DH for distance which removed basic DH counterplay like baiting hit with m2), but i wouldnt mind nerfing it (i dont use movement speed anyway). I know its kinda lame to use it as counterplay but isnt both of your killers already countering it pretty well? Oni with 1shot, and huntress with exh hatchets? (if in your opinion youre playing vs 4 DH every game 1 add on removes 4 perks), BTW I hate exh hatchet when im using my head on build ...

BT has counterplay, you either wait 15 seconds or just kill surv that unhooked (if unhooked surv is protecting him just wait 15 sec, dont be dumb and press m1) also BT can give you 0 value in game (as surv)

So there are games where BT, DS, Unbreakable user wont use single perk

But i get it when squads are using those perks its overwhelming.

Also from my surv and killer PoV I noticed if you have 2 or more survs with at least 2 perks from list (DS,BT, Unbr) its swf. Its funny to see (in my games) how typical soloQ group doesnt have more than 1 person with 2(or more) perks from this list. Perks made so its less unfun to play soloQ are used by swf not soloQ (at least from my experiences)

ukenicky

Killers have their own statistics about them and their power that sets them apart from each other.

Survivors literally only have perks. Yeah every survivor looks different and has quieter / more loud breathing and groans of pain but survivors are purely what their perks are in a match and I think that's why survivor perks tend to feel that way in comparison to killers' if that makes any sense.

Survivors have to look for ways to counter play the killers power, possible stealth killers, whatever add ons they might have brought and the killers perk loadout too!

There's always going to be meta perks on both sides. Killers have Meta perks as well. Idk, I don't use very many meta perks as a survivor because I still haven't unlocked them all but I feel like I do just fine with off meta perks and I have more fun using niche stuff. Hopefully once the DS nerf goes live more people will use more off meta stuff / combos.