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Reworking the spirit

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  • Zenro
    Zenro Member Posts: 319

    I dont see how that is bad design. I am not totally against her having a visible animation for entering phase to remove the stand still mind game, thats a legit discussion to be had. But giving survivors periodic glimpses while she is phasing and cannot see would ruin half of the mind games that exist with her. Like phasing and going around a loop predicting that they will vault and catching them there. Or the opposite where you predict that they will fast vault and then slow vault back so you stand phasing at the window for the prediction. If there was glimpses the survivors would see exactly where she is and know that they shouldnt slow vault back. That would remove mind games. Would be much better design to make it similar to that bug that happened where you could hear her breathing. So you had a general idea of where she could be. I dont think it should be super easy to read so you know where she is all the time so it could be periodic. and yeah you cant see her for a reason. Because she cant see you. The fun in spirit chases is prediction and staying healthy so its hard for her to track you. Who wants another loopable killer, thats boring what kind of gameplay is that.

  • Zenro
    Zenro Member Posts: 319

    Yes guessing and also misdirection. She dominates if you are injured without iron will. That is part of her strength. Same with twins. They are super strong when you are injured due to the power of Victor. Part 1 of outplaying spirit is being healthy. Remember this is 4v1 not 1v1. And chases are mostly mindgames. Mindgames is essentially a guessing game and i think the game should have more mindgamable structures like the T L wall loop. In the end its a guessing game. Try to stay healthy and predict the spirit. And she does give information there is a sound that she is phasing its up to the survivor to mindgame her with scratch marks and loud noise notifications

  • OopsAllHexes
    OopsAllHexes Member Posts: 624

    And let this continue? No thank you.

    Also, I wasn't excusing anything, I was explaining my actions. It's up to you whether you want to hold it against me or remember it.

    I also think you misinterpreted me again or I wasn't clear enough: I have not read your second post yet, I need to read it, review it while looking for problems, and then type out a response. You want counterarguments, no? Give me some time, I will get to it eventually. So far, I've been one of the people who engaged you the most, I think, even though I've been rude.

    I was trying to say that I already read this suggestion, considered it, and then disagreed and voiced why I disagreed in this topic, since I thought the subject was still on this post.