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Best chapter yet?
I honestly love it so much.
Survivor: Yun-Jin has quickly became one of my favourite survivors in the game. I tend to play as the male characters more but she’s just so aesthetically pleasing and I love her perks. Especially Fast Track which I was enjoying using last night. It really did make a difference in getting those last generators fixed.
Trickster: I agree with the general consensus that he needs some buffs. I’d like to see him get an increased movement speed / some tweaks to his blades to make them deadlier but I was actually having a blast playing as him last night. My final match of the night was a Merciless against a 4-man SWF, so I think I’m starting to get the hang of him.
Cosmetics: This is the first time in a long time where I’ve bought cosmetics for the new survivor, killer AND other survivors. Yun-Jin, Adam, Felix and Trickster got some great outfits. Especially Yun-Jin, Adam and Felix who just received some of the best cosmetics in the entire game.
Menu: The menu theme and music is just so pleasing to me. It brings such a different atmosphere to what we normally get and it was a refreshing change.
Overall, I am extremely happy with this new chapter and I’m looking forward to seeing what potential buffs are coming for Trickster as I’m pretty sure some are on the way.
All hail the King & Queen of DBD.
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Glad you like it.
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Dude....he had all the same problems on the ptb and they decided to nerf him further anyway.
Sorry to say but unless they put a new designer on the project, or someone higher up puts pressure on them then Trickster is toast.
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I like the design and art, that is awesome, props to the design team, seriously.
Gameplay-wise? Not good. The 2 best chapters in terms of gameplay and design wise are the SIlent Hill and Stranger Things chapter imo.
Still better than binding of kin tho, that chapter was bad in every way.
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Halloween and Stranger Things are in my top 5. Michael and Demogorgon are 2 of my mains. But, when I take into consideration the killer, survivor, menu, perks and cosmetics, All-Kill wins for me.
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It's not for me, but I'm glad you are enjoying it
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I love both of those chapters. The only true downside to this chapter for me is the lack of map. But I saw something on Twitter the other day and whoever runs the DBD account said that they’re not ruling out releasing maps at a later date. So hopefully. 🤞🏻
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I mean, the whole "yandere bishonen Kpop singer serial killer" thing is not that bad... but it's also EXTREMELY niche....
And after the already very niche "medieval mutant french farm girl with lil baby brother half phetus tumor growing on her chest" killer, I'm starting to feel like the "creative team" is trying a bit too hard and probably should ring it in to some of the most comon (and still missing) horror trops for DbD.
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I don’t agree. I’ve seen plenty of things get released from the PTB that people didn’t like and they were changed at a later date. Blights POV is just one of those things. Pretty much everyone I saw said it was too low and now it’s finally been adjusted.
I won’t be shocked if Trickster gets a buff to his movement speed just like Legion did.
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A chapter without a map OR a map rework can never be the absolute best chapter.
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I don’t mind niche chapters to be honest as it makes it feel more fresh. We already have a lot of common horror tropes in the game, such as a clown, a spirit, masked serial killers etc so I like getting ones you wouldn’t think of like Doctor and Deathslinger.
I personally don’t find Trickster to be that niche. Ignoring the KPOP element, he’s just a psychopath. He’s supposed to be similar to true crime killers like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer. People who come off as charming but are complete evil.
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"Ignoring the KPOP element"
I mean... that's kinda his main (and I'd even say overbearing) trait here, changing that is changing his personality altogether.
Also ALL killers are psychopath.
As I said, I dont hate it, but you have to admit he is by far the nichiest killer when it comes to fantasy, something that will only speak to people that know what a yandere means and what Kpop is about.
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The reason I said to ignore the KPOP element is because when he was first announced people were like “I DON’T LIKE KPOP” and “KPOP ISN’T HORROR” but it shouldn’t be relevant, because if he was a dentist or a school teacher, why does it matter? The key part to him being in the game is that he’s a serial killer.
The psychopath comment was in reference to him being an ACTUAL psychopath. Most of the other killers in the game are complete fiction. Would you ever encounter Freddy Krueger or Blight in real life? No. But people like Trickster do exist. Tricker isn’t supposed to be some disfigured monster as he’s supposed to look like a real person. Which is why I brought up Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer. Two serial killers who have been described as being charming. Which is why Trickster has that same allure.
I personally don’t find this chapter to be niche. But each to their own I guess. 🤷🏻♂️
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It would probably be the best chapter if not for the fact that the 4.4m/s killer cannot use his power when walls get involved. The perks, the visual design, the lore, the welcome risks woven through everything... If only the killer didn't rely on people not going to maze tiles, buildings, shack, particularly high junk tiles, or just anywhere you need accuracy in order to hit people.
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"The reason I said to ignore the KPOP element is because when he was first announced people were like “I DON’T LIKE KPOP” and “KPOP ISN’T HORROR” but it shouldn’t be relevant, because if he was a dentist or a school teacher, why does it matter? The key part to him being in the game is that he’s a serial killer."
Well... yeah? Of course it would matter.
If he was a space alien spiting dart, a shadow throwing glass shard of pure darkness or a manikin with a nail gun it would GREATLY change his whole fantasy and style.
"The psychopath comment was in reference to him being an ACTUAL psychopath. Most of the other killers in the game are complete fiction"
Again, ALL the killers in that game are also fictions.
I get that you like him, but you are trying way to hard to justify his existance while sidestepping the main point about him : the fantasy they decided to give him. Hell, by your description he is basically the very same type of kille than Legion.
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I’m not trying too hard to justify anything. But if that narrative makes you feel better, go right ahead. 🙃
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Sure, you can go that road and avoid my point entirely if that narrative makes you feel better, go right ahead. 🙃
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Design wise, one of my favorites! Game play wise, one of the absolute worst.
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That’s the problem. You didn’t actually make a point. 🙊
“If he was a space alien spiting dart, a shadow throwing glass shard of pure darkness or a manikin with a nail gun it would GREATLY change his whole fantasy and style.”
Where exactly did I claim that any of these things wouldn’t greatly change his whole fantasy and style? My point was, which you clearly missed, was that if he was the exact same killer we have now. Same power. But, instead of being a KPOP singer he was a teacher or a dentist, it shouldn’t be relevant to him being in the game. People said that KPOP doesn’t belong in a horror game. But why would a dentist or a teacher fit any better? What he did for a job shouldn’t matter. Him being a psychopath who abducts and tortures people is what makes him fit in the game.
Now I’m not going to keep having a back and forth with you as you’re making me lose brain cells. But feel free to reply. Just don’t expect one in return. 😘
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I personally love the new killer despite many thinking he dosent belong in the game. I played him for hours yesterday and had alot of fun. I do agree with others saying that he's the weakest killer though, he's a yes man's Slinger, and Slingers not as good as Huntress. Although I find him fun he's underwhelmed to play at times and needs a buff of some sorts. Some say he should be 4.6 to help with loops where his power is useless, I think this should be tested.
I'm honestly just not a fan of the survivor but can see why others love her(Cheryl is still Queen sorry folks)
I like the music.
Signed ~A Trickster Main
Tldr: Design Yay, Gameplay, Fun but underwhelming at times.
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His aesthetic is definitely like a 9/10 for me, the only reason he is not a 10 is that he is just a Lil bit too flashy, maybe a little darkness to him could work.
Gameplay-wise he is a 2/10. He can definitely reworked to be fun and strong, but we all know that'll take some time. And by some time, I mean a really long time if ever.
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Once Trickster gets buffed this will probably be one of my favorite chapters.
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This is me here. I love everything about this Chapter but playing as the Trickster. Hopefully he'll get buffed soon to be a bit faster somehow. Either fast in his movement, or faster in his laceration stacks but he needs to be faster in something
If they can fix the Trickster I'd probably play him more than anyone else.
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"That’s the problem. You didn’t actually make a point. 🙊"
That's the problem right there my dude. I made a pretty simple and clear point.
YOU came here and said you LOVED the design of the character. Fine.
I responded that said style was EXTREMELY niche because of its yandere Kpop nature.
YOU responded "but let's ignore the obvious main point of that design, I was totlly talking about the fact that he is a spychopath"
To which I responded "dude, all the killers are"
To which YOU responded "but the others are fiction"
To which I pointed out the obvious fact that... yawkno. ALL the killers in that game are fictions too.
"Where exactly did I claim that any of these things wouldn’t greatly change his whole fantasy and style? My point was, which you clearly missed, was that if he was the exact same killer we have now. Same power. But, instead of being a KPOP singer he was a teacher or a dentist, it shouldn’t be relevant to him being in the game. People said that KPOP doesn’t belong in a horror game. But why would a dentist or a teacher fit any better? What he did for a job shouldn’t matter. Him being a psychopath who abducts and tortures people is what makes him fit in the game"
Yeah, you fought a very strong strawman here buddy.
I never said Kpop didn't fit in horror, I said it was NICHE. But if you want to go on that topic sure, let's talk about it:
Yes, OBVIOUSLY Kpop doesnt fit at all in the horror theme, but just like a clown at face value wouldn't, it's the act of tearing that thing down and twisting it that makes it work. And it does work, just like tearind down and twisting anything work. You could have made him a bride in white robe and it would have worked just as much.
The question was never "did it work" but "it's very specific and niche.
And despite working, you cannot deny that he still is maybe just a little over the line when it comes to brightness for DbD, but as an exception it's okay. The problem will arise if everyone start looking like him.
Also, just to stay for a second on his sill and disregarding the look entirely : It's probably the worst design job BVH ever did.
It's a range killer without any of the advantage, his skill is clunky, slow, had a way too strong wind up and stance swap that makes it unusable to poke, a way too slow travel time and too high spread that makes it excessivly easy to dodge when you are in the open.
He is very close to the plague in term of actual mechanic : a bunch of small projectils that need to hit the target to wound them, but the plague leave a mark that will stay and even get stronger if its meter inst full, spread trough survivor cooperation and wont give the survivor a speed boost when they get wounded from it, thus making a close range shower followed by a M1 a good way to use it, something G1 Hack over here cannot do since his skill will give a speed boost (and why would you try to max a survivor at close range when you can just M1 them anyway? A M1 that will reduce said meter for some reasons too).
And he needs to refill is ammo unlike the plague.
So yeah, even from a purely mechanical standpoint, he is terrible and probably beyond fixing without making him op.
YOU are the one being extremely over defensive on the topic because you know full well that this particular point is the main reason people may not like him, and since YOU like him you are trying to dismiss and handwave that point. And YOU did it even when I (and everyone else in that thread) said they were fine with the Kpop thing.
"Just don’t expect a reply. 😘"
Please, do not. I think its pretty clear that there's no point wasting more time with you.
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For me, I would not call it the best chapter, it would have to go to the stranger things or silent hill dlc, but I'm glad you like it!
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Lol, not even close.
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The Silent Hill one is definitely my pick too.
Not only the flavor is way more interesting (even if we ignore the whole brand recognition, on their own the map, survivor and killer look outstanding and play very well) but it's also a great nod to one of the most iconic horror video game out there.
I'm still waiting for the Resident Evil one tho. Racoon City police station would make for an amazing map, and there's a load of great characters to pick from as killers and survivors.
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You know how people when referring to statistics always reference the majority, but tend to mention the minority exception? That second group, that's where you are. I'm fairly certain most people despise this chapter minus the Blight and Wraith changes (he might be bugged atm).
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I personally don't think he is very niche, and he does fill another horror trope, the serial killer artist, who finds his killing as well as his profession the best in it's class. Same with Twins, it filled the body horror trope in horror, being a grotesque killer with a twin who climbs out of her body is a bloody mess, Every killer still has it's purpose and place in horror. The main complaints for this chapter seem to be the gameplay which is fully understandable and he really needs help, but his look and aesthetic is amazing, and the art department really nailed it for me.
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That niche is already covered by Ghost Face tho. Sure he isn't extravert, but he is that "serial killer artist who think he is hot stuff" and the whole body horror thing was covered by the blight too.
And what you just did here is prove that yes, is has indeed a niche, and rather specific one at that.
Again, I'm not criticizing the look, just the fact that, once again, it's fairly niche.
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I agree it can be niche, but I dont think nothing is wrong with that, I think having some unique and very specific killers is nice, gives them more character. Ghostface I thought fit more in with the mysterious unknown serial killer trope or the civilian killer, being a normal person but secretly a dark murderer. Blight I also believed to have fell closer to the scientist experiment gone wrong trope but he could also be body horror as well. There are loads and loads of horror tropes and I think most the killers fit well and don't have anything in the same categories, but I do respect your opinion and I can see how they are niche.
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I wouldn't say it's "wrong" per say, but rather that it feels odd to have them pinpoint niches when a lot of horror mainstays aren't touched up yet...
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halloween would probably be my fav, saw is 2nd. i definitely prefer this chapter over a binding of kin and trickster is pretty fun to verse.
i dislike how yun jin has cosmetics that literally make me confuse her with jane (no joke, i legit keep calling her jane in game)
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If they buff his movement speed his power will cause deep wounds max only and won't be able to down survivors. At that point he would be inferior to Legion.
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The chapter is not as bad as people say, the Killer feels weak but his perks are decent (the Hex is actually very strong), Survivor perks are bad (usually they are trash) and as far as I know there hasnt been any game breaking bug, which is a huge surprise.
Whoever says this is the worst chapter in story didnt play Legion or Twins chapters, or others with huge gamebreaking bugs.
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TBH everything but the killer is amazing. The killer however is too much of a mess and is a major part of a chapter so I don't think its a good chapter. I'm not even one of the "kpop = bad" or "he doesn't fit in a horror game" people since I think DBD abandoned horror a long time ago. His power just feels so unispired underpowered and unfinished.
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Visuals are good.
Gameplay is awful.
Well, a step forward from a bottomless pit binding of kin was. There was no gameplay and no visuals
Maybe next chapter would be both visuals and gameplay, but I guess I'm wanting too much from BHVR
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Definitely, imagine being able to play as Jill, Chris, Leon, etc.
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Yeah, for sure. For the type of player who frequently finds themself saying "I feel I need to handicap myself" this is a fantastic chapter.
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It definitely isn't for me, but I am glad to see that someone liked it.
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I love this chapter as well, haven't bought so many cosmetics for a character release as I have done Trickster. It's fun to mix and match his stuff. He's fun, but he certainly needs some buffs.
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yeah the lack of maps lately has been really bumming me out and making the game very stale imho. I'm okay with the visuals of the new killer and survivors but if there was a map to go along with that aesthetic? It would be amazing! A neon city vibe like you see at the campfire...
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I would love that! I'm not sure about the Trickster but the devs said that the Blight and Twins likely would never get a map unfortunately. It sucks.
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Cool to see someone like ALL KILL but man naw its nowhere near the best chapters. This chapter gives BINDING OF KIN a run for its money for how bad it is. Its not up there with STRANGER THINGS and SILENT HILL. Even if you exclude liscences, oni, huntress, blight, and a few others are leagues ahead of ALL KILL.
In terms of cosmetics i would agree this chapter has better designed cosmetics than other chapters but you cant have a good looking cake that tastes like ######### and call it good
The only saving grace if this chapter is a couple perks and the survivor imo
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This chapter has a lot of heart behind the concept, but I prefer Descend Beyond. Having that mysterious figure from the iconic Hallowed Blight event become a playable killer two years in the making takes the cake for me.
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