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How to balance killers

Almost all the add-ons have no down sides

Trapper Start the game with 2 traps
Wraith Attack from invisibility
Huntress Mayby better hitbox
Pig Only take one sec or less to ambush
Nightmare Full rework

Surrs will take a sort deff on speed every time they use pallet or window

This is on part of my ideas and i will like your opinion of you and of devs.
Thank you

Comments

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    Trapper would still be trash with that change
    Wraith probably OP

  • DarkGGhost
    DarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072
    Why I want to know you reason behind this 
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Why I want to know you reason behind this 
    Don't you think that a wraith with windstorm speed and being able to hit while cloaked would be too op?
  • RWoodrow
    RWoodrow Member Posts: 270
    Wraith is OP for sure. First hit comes from nowhere and, with his speed while invisible, there's no point in trying to escape. Granted, he needs something but hitting while cloaked is ridiculously OP and not balanced.

    IMO Trapper doesn't start to come out of the low tier til he has 3 traps at the start but, admittedly, I rarely play as him myself. 

    The hitboxes may need help in certain areas on certain maps but I think Huntress is okay.

    The Pig's ambush idea...are you using it in mid-chase here? No heartbeat in crouch, faster movement speed coming out of it...people are gonna just string those together. Sounds like your making a nurse without a stun that can't phase through walls and has RBT. Sounds OP to me.

    Nightmare is a given. 

    I think your last suggestion is, at least in part, in the PTB but I don't play on PC so I cannot confirm.

    In all honesty, what killers need is not stronger gimmicks, they need things that help them with map pressure.
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    Why would you want to rework the nightmare, he's a killer you can't stealth from if you stay outside his terror radius, so what? that's not much of a power.

  • DarkGGhost
    DarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072
    First if wraith it will attcat from invisibility he must have a speed around 110-115%( the normal).
    The pig right now she is very rng so she need same upgrade.
    Trapper will spend less time trying to find traps.
    Nightmare need at bace 7 second before he can do anything and the survivors can easily wake up.
    Huntress she ok except in same maps and loops.
    Nurse is Top Tier we need to push killer ther not put down the nurse ( at least not yet).
    The problem with the map pressure is not up to killer. A survivor can and will run the killers all around the map and use everything they have ( bag, loops ... ) but killers are limited to what the can do by the game and every time they Nerf them they lose more power. 
  • lol Wraith would be stupid OP with that. 
  • chococri
    chococri Member Posts: 355

    Wraith would be top. He needs a shorter time for uncloaking.

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    I like the wraith and he defo needs some love. Hitting while cloaked would be OP as hell... But if his cloaked speed were the same as billys sprint speed, i think he would be a mid-tier killer.

  • Larcz
    Larcz Member Posts: 531
    Imo traper should dont need run all map and take trap arm trap etc.Simply traper should use his traps like hag no more waste time find trap take trap arm trap.Wraith atack from cloack with current speed after cloack not good but at least no slow down when uncloack and can interupt action with out uncloack.About huntres no directional hum sound will be good.

  • DarkGGhost
    DarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072
    @Larcz so when you have a survivor running around a loop that you can hit with your axe what you do you just run around for 3-5 time and waiting for bloodlusted ? 
  • Larcz
    Larcz Member Posts: 531
    @Larcz so when you have a survivor running around a loop that you can hit with your axe what you do you just run around for 3-5 time and waiting for bloodlusted ? 
    I dont play huntres she is slow that is a problem.And we all know blood lust is crap and dont help killer at all if you got palets and windows and very easy to lose chase.I hear last time devs go back with orginal hitbox.
  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    I think the trapper might need a bit more than that. And I like the Wraith being able to hit while invisible, but it would have to be carefully balanced. Maybe he doesn't get a speed boost when he does or it has a charge time so survivors have a small window to react to it.

  • ErgoPr0xy
    ErgoPr0xy Member Posts: 31

    @DarkGGhost said:
    Almost all the add-ons have no down sides

    Trapper Start the game with 2 traps
    Wraith Attack from invisibility
    Huntress Mayby better hitbox
    Pig Only take one sec or less to ambush
    Nightmare Full rework

    Surrs will take a sort deff on speed every time they use pallet or window

    This is on part of my ideas and i will like your opinion of you and of devs.
    Thank you

    Its a think start but the bigger issue is time management and pressure to perform. its mostly on the killer. They need to shift this, same goes for in game play, killers need more options to play the game, its part of the reason killers burn out or just resort to playing 1 week out the month.

  • Bug_Reporter
    Bug_Reporter Member Posts: 673

    @DarkGGhost said:
    Almost all the add-ons have no down sides

    Trapper Start the game with 2 traps
    Wraith Attack from invisibility
    Huntress Mayby better hitbox
    Pig Only take one sec or less to ambush
    Nightmare Full rework

    Surrs will take a sort deff on speed every time they use pallet or window

    This is on part of my ideas and i will like your opinion of you and of devs.
    Thank you

    Remove DS, Sprint Burst, Self Care and Adrenaline from the game and it will probably get WAY MORE balanced.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @Bug_Reporter said:

    @DarkGGhost said:
    Almost all the add-ons have no down sides

    Trapper Start the game with 2 traps
    Wraith Attack from invisibility
    Huntress Mayby better hitbox
    Pig Only take one sec or less to ambush
    Nightmare Full rework

    Surrs will take a sort deff on speed every time they use pallet or window

    This is on part of my ideas and i will like your opinion of you and of devs.
    Thank you

    Remove DS, Sprint Burst, Self Care and Adrenaline from the game and it will probably get WAY MORE balanced.

    remove survivors...Now thats a game ill buy the dlc in.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804

    @DarkGGhost said:
    Almost all the add-ons have no down sides

    Trapper Start the game with 2 traps
    Wraith Attack from invisibility
    Huntress Mayby better hitbox
    Pig Only take one sec or less to ambush
    Nightmare Full rework

    Surrs will take a sort deff on speed every time they use pallet or window

    This is on part of my ideas and i will like your opinion of you and of devs.
    Thank you

    Remove DS, Sprint Burst, Self Care and Adrenaline from the game and it will probably get WAY MORE balanced.

    People actually cry about Adrenaline? Half the time you equip it it doesn't even get used and 40% of the time it gets used it gets wasted.

    The only reason you think it's OP is because obviously you're gonna only remember the rare times it was useful. 
  • Eight
    Eight Member Posts: 513

    @Global said:
    remove survivors...Now thats a game ill buy the dlc in.

    Killer vs. killer mode?

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  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @DarkGGhost said:
    Why I want to know you reason behind this 

    The Wraith can move super fast now if you had the ability to attack invisible he would be potentially in certain scenarios better than the nurse against everything but looping and even then with spirit fury and Bamboozle better.