Are we going to keep ignoring that face camping and hard tunneling are a giant problem
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Luckily for you they're actually one and the same, so you not only do you get both, they'll only take up one slot!
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Sweet 2 perks in 1 slot. lmao woo hoo
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It's like having DS and BBQ at the same time!
...Sort of?
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So because killers want to use toxic strategies we have to use the same 2 perks every game that don’t even effectively counter those strategies. Great game desgin right there.
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They are not 'toxic' just because you don't like them.
They don't need changing just because you don't like them.
You don't get to pick how the opposing side plays.
If you can't accept that the opposing side is trying to win, then PvP games are not for you.
If you can't accept Killers trying to win with LEGITIMATE STRATEGIES, then you will never enjoy DBD. We don't have to stop trying just because you invented a petty rule about 'toxic' gameplay. 🤷
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The problem is those strategies force survivors to use the same perks every game and that is poor game design.
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You have the wrong account then but keep trying to lie to push your agenda for not getting things fixed in this game.
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So...I'm like still really new to the game as a whole, literally got the game about a month ago. I've tried both sides, and personally I can't stand playing survivor. Not because of op killers or tunneling or camping, but I acknowledge that I just suck at it and honestly the whole run away thing isn't really my play style. So killer it was, and yeah I actually have a bit more fun on that side.
Now that being said, again I'm still pretty new here so maybe I'm not understanding something here. A survivors objective is to escape by any means. So rush gens and hit the hatch if needed. Whatever it takes to literally get out alive. A killer's only objective is to kill as many survivors as they can by any means as well. So by this very basic understanding of the game, why is it bad for killers to camp? If they camp then they leave the other survivors alone to do their objective by doing gens and escaping. Ok, maybe survivors don't get their blood points, but I can promise you if I just stood next to a hook all game and got that one kill, I'm not gonna get much blood points either, and I'll likely get an "Entity Displeased" rank and ranked down. Plus like, I wish I would've quoted this post up above with how survivors complain about camping, slugging, and tunneling. So...what, do you just not want the killer to do anything and instead use harsh language to fight you guys?
I mean I get the argument being made about no fun if you're the one being tunneled and camped. But in my short time playing this game, you know what else I find that isn't fun? Having to face a full SWF team armed with flashlights and do everything they can to bully me around while one or two of their guys rush gens, resulting in me getting maaaaaybe one or two hooks. Not kills, just hooks. You think that's fun, to feel literally powerless against a full team of survivors who have probably thousands of hours more experience in this game than me? No. Aside from me wanting the matchmaking system to get fixed so it can stop pairing me with rank 1, 2, and 3 survivors while I'm floating around ranks 12-10, I think it's all fair game. Both sides seem to have strategies they can use to bully the other side. It's kind of the point of pvp games though isn't it? To win or at least be a massive pain for the other side to deal with?
Again I dunno, I just had to throw in my two pennies as the resident noob who's still learning the basics of the game. If it ain't an exploit or a cheat then I think it's fair game.
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Yeah. Sure.
And 'good' game design is removing Killer player agency, hopefully in a way that Survivors can abuse?
You still don't get it. Nothing can be done. Anything tired is either easy to abuse, makes it outright harder for Killers to win, or is a spiteful punishment for the sake of being spiteful.
It is a Killer's choice to camp.
Survivors don't deserve that unhook just because they want it.
Camping ensures a death & a 25% decrease in Survivor gen speeds.
All your arguments are a smoke screen for what you, and every other person complaining about 'camping' wants; easy unhooks, Killers forced to 12 hook games, and for Killers to be forced to allow unsafe unhooks.
It's blatantly obvious, given that every suggestion is either abuseable by Survivors, or a spite-filled punishment for the sake of screwing Killers.
And you keep repeating the same things, even after people have told you why, repeatedly, camping can not, and will never, be punishable.
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I'm not your "bro" which begs the question of why do so many of you types that think alike also use the same syntax. I've seen "bro" and "bruh" most often, and a bunch of other Fraternity variations of the same. In any event, I'm here because I enjoy playing Dead by Daylight. If I wasn't enjoying the game, I'd already be gone. It is kind of weird, defective even to keep hanging around playing a game that you clearly think is bad. So...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxFgZdhF9dQ
But returning to my original point, Dead by Daylight is a highly successful game and has been since 2016. The evidence is clear that the DEV must be doing something right. On the one hand we have a team of people who maintain and innovate on a successful video game, and on the other we have you a nameless, faceless hack on the internet with poor syntax. Gosh I mean I just don't know who to trust. :)
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It's not an issue. Be prepared to counter it or improve your ability to avoid the killer so your not on the hook early game. Killer can only stop one Survivor at a time, so do gens or take the risk.
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the devs keep nerfing the ability to avoid the killer and play stealthy because and I quote “it provides an unfun trial for the killer of survivors try to hide too much”
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When did that happen. people can still play stealthy
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Riiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhttttt. :)
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So you are telling me that this person has the same account as you and started the game at the same time that you made a Forum account, but it isn't you?
Prove me wrong.
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Closing up this thread. I am going to remind everyone slugging, tunneling, and camping are not reportable or bannable, and to keep your discussions civil, please! You don't have to agree with each other, just be respectful and not insult one another for their opinions!
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