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A new Dbd style game would wipe this game off the market
I just felt like saying after the release of the trickster its clear the devs are clueless and this game is slowly dying all it would take is for a similar style game for me to switch over too and I could finally Uninstall the waste of space dbd is proving to become on my hardrive.
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If it is successful, then maybe.
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I doubt it but I can tell you this, if DBD did get wiped off the market I don't think a lot of players would be sad to see it go after the way the past 4 years have been. We're dealing with semi-infinites in 2021 lmfao and somehow this is meant to be acceptable map-design.
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How would any survivor actually escape a chase of semi-infinities were removed? It’s already extremely hard to get away from the killer as is.
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Are you kidding?
Use pallets, use windows. You don't need flatout broken loops to buy time from the killer. How do survivors cope on maps without these kind of god windows? quite easily.
Also you don't NEED to escape the killer, just buy time for your team.
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You are not meant to escape chases. This mentality is what hurts the game. You are only meant to delay killer for as long as possible with the resources you got.
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haven't played these myself but:
Home Sweet Home: Survive
In Silence
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I mean... any "new game" could wipe out a niche product that isn't used to competition tbh, and while BHV could CLEARLY use some competition (they are SO slow and afraid when it comes to changes) the fact that the game managed to stand and I'll even arge improve over time is the proof that it has some legs to stand on.
It's always mindblowing that survivors dont get that they are supposed to be part of a team. Their goal is to have the team get out, not THEM specifically. Most dont even understand what a chase is supposed to be about, it's not about trying to lose the killer (can you immagine how unplayable the game would be if surivors could just end any chase by losing the killer?!) but making him was as much time as possible on you while your team works on the gens.
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That's what people have said for the last... five(?) games of this style to come out.
Guess how many still are alive.
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Really? Cause many have tried
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Not just that but some have the mentality that a single survivor should have an equal chance of running the killer for all 5 gens. They always ignore the fact that it's a 4 vs 1, always want the survivor to be able to 1vs1 the killer.
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Eventually this game will die and that's a fact.
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That sounds familiar.... oh yah - they said Last Year and Friday The 13th would kill DBD
Wonder how those games are doing now.....
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I mean use your wits and environment. also you dont have to escape the killer if he dosent start a chase.
on you maybe instead if sitting on the gen until the killer is 5m away from you a bit of stealth could be an option
And if your that unconfident as soon as me looks in the wrong spot run to somewhere good waist their time
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Oh totly. They dont understand that in order for the game to work, the killer NEED to be able to catch survivor pretty fast, otherwise it would be totally unplayable since said killer have to do 4x3 chase to get 4k.
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Game isn't dying at all. There's still plenty of players. And no competition so far has been able to dethrone it. For all of its flaws, DBD has something any upcoming games will never have: A 5 year advance of time and money commitment from a dedicated player base.
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Completely empty statement
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DbD is gonna be a hard game to take down, because of how big BHVR is, the loyal player base and the amount of licenses they have
DbD will fall one day, but it wont be any time soon
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Same thing has been said about WoW for almost its entire lifespan up to now and that's 16 years now. Literally EVERY contestant was hyped, played a little and then died out.
The only exception is FF14, which has established a really solid playerbase and has been changed into a fantastic game, that can easily live right next to WoW for years to come.
But what alternatives are there for an established and "easy to pick up" game like DbD? There have been others and all of them have quickly faded: RE: Resistence, Last Year both had us in high hopes to be at least a worthy competition and what happened? Both died.
The only hope I now have is Home Sweet Home Survive, because even in its Early Access phase, it makes a whole lot of things right, is not overpriced and overall just fun to pick up and play. Will it wipe DbD out of existence? Certainly not, but it has the potential to at least be a worthy competitor and MAYBE make BHVR watch out and, for the first time ever, think about their future desicions and involve the playerbase before they lose them to another game.
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From what i've seen home sweet home looks pretty ######### and janky even for an early access game.
I won't give it a chance as it looks VERY boring.Last Year looked so much better and it still flopped.
Will probably be just another game thrown under the rug and forgotten after a month after all the hype is dead.
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People have been saying this for almost 5 years about every asymmetrical horror game. Spoiler warning: DbD is still here.
DbD has had plenty of competition, it just sucked.
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Clueless enough to bungle through 5 years of running a massively successful game from a midsized two-horse company, I guess.
Don't be so eager to jump on the BHVR sucks bandwagon. There are plenty of DBD clones out there, and they fail to tap into the DBD market. Trickster was a disappointment, yes, and BHVR knows it. Unfortunately, they have a schedule and a pandemic, so they're going to just dump him as is for now, work on a fix later, when they don't have to worry about a strict three-month regiment. Lucky for us, we have 20+ other killers to choose from in the meantime.
Every time something like this happens, people get all of their theatrics out. "I'm uninstalling DBD," *posts picture of uninstalling on Twitter,* "the devs don't know how to run a company," etc. etc. etc. Everybody suddenly whips out their degrees in game design from the University of Reddit.
Nevermind four years of a successful and somewhat fun game in a market that no other game has managed to tap, I'm going to take one action by BHVR, extrapolate to assume it insinuates all sorts of bad stuff about BHVR, act like the Karen at the mall who yells, "You've lost a very valuable customer" when the Nordstrom Rack refuses to take back the pair of socks she tried on, and then gets on the forums to declare a max exodus, BHVR is doomed, the end is near, so on. Everybody just gets so angry for no reason, and lets that anger control them to do stupid and irrational things. This isn't even limited to DBD; World of Warcraft, League of Legends, and even Overwatch see these histrionics every day.
No community has need for these types of peoples. If you feel that this is the train to jump on, adios. The manager is out.
I don't mean to say criticism isn't meet; quite the opposite. But there's a balance between blindly defending BHVR and blindingly attacking BHVR.
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There already are a considerable amount of similar games and all failed. Dbd will always have the lead in this genre because they earned it, we like it or not.
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I sadly don't have high hopes for Home Sweet Home: Survive. Not enough people are covering it, only really smaller DBD fans are branching out and trying to get it out there, and the videos I've spotted in my recommended rarely get traction. Although I haven't played it myself, I've heard mostly negative things about it gameplay and queue wise, though people have told me its a fun game with friends that just gets boring quickly. If Friday the 13th never managed to surpass DBD before it was culled, I don't think this will without some major changes.
In Silence is fun, but incredibly small and has very little coverage as well, along with almost never being compared to DBD.
I always see these types of threads around that completely disregard the absolute genre monopoly this game has, along with a terrifying amount of huge licenses. A game will really need to excel to even be a noteworthy competitor, and they probably would have needed to come 4 years earlier lol. It's only getting more money, more players and more coverage the more content they pump out.
People have been saying this game will die for years. It's been at lower points than this before, and it's only gotten bigger. A disappointing chapter isn't going to do the trick(ster- haha, puns). @/Shamelesspigmain said it best; they have a schedule they need to abide too, and they'll eventually make some much-needed changes. The pandemic isn't helping, and while it's great you're holding them to a standard, jumping on the bandwagon isn't a healthy mindset to join. Be mad at the game, absolutely! But be aware that a game doesn't just die from a poor chapter.
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I saw content and updates cease for Friday 13th. I found that saddening.
If DBD disappeared, I wouldn't be bothered.
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No DBD means no Shirtless Davids, are you sure you're ready to give up on that?
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Every game that has tried, has failed.
Remember that.
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I was going to say I agree with your points but then I saw your username and I need to say that I agree with your username more, 10/10, name a street after it
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Games rise and fall so yeah its probably gonna happen someday
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Just a reminder this is what Dead by Daylight looked like and it never even had early access
In some ways the game isn't even that much better almost 5 years on.
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The game needs competition, and even though some have not lived up to well Home Sweet Home Survive may have the opportunity to be competition. But the problem is people who play DBD don't want to play any other asymmetrical game, and thus therefore the community says there was never competition from so and so because simps can't be bothered to give new games a try.
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DBD has a pretty low turnover rate, so the competition would be for new players, not veterans. Unfortunately, even for new players, Home Sweet Home Survive is pretty ... meh. DBD has already established itself in the corner and it'll be very hard for any other game to come in and take the reigns.
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What you do as survivor when being chased is basically waste the killer's time as much as possible, so that way your teammates can get all the gens done for everyone to escape. I've made it hard on Bubba's to get me because whenever I'm in chase with one, I'll just instantly drop the pallet because I know not to be greedy against Bubba since he can punish you badly for it.
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Honestly DBD wouldn't be where it's at right now thanks to all the licensed characters they have acquired. Like who knows what DBD would turn out to be if they never got Michael Myers, which is still by far the biggest steal BHVR managed to get.
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This brought back painful memories lol.
The game as of right now is the most balanced its ever been.
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Also i think it had early access.
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Ahahaha no it won't, as many problems as BHVR and DBD has Home Sweet Home is one of the worst abominations of a game I've ever experienced. It makes mobile phone games look good, it makes DBD look like a AAA studio game.
It's not going to be any competition, it's not even a blip on the radar.
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It's going to be extremely hard for any other game to compete with DbD since it's been around for nearly 5 years now, has had a bunch of content added to it and many licenses involved. A game to "kill" DbD would have to be pretty damn exceptional right off the bat.
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DbD doesn't have competition because for as many problems as it might have, it is still a good game, and the others that tried to fill the same niche couldn't really compete.
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I'm curious about Home Sweet Home and other similar asymmetrical 4v1s (my friends had mentioned Foglight and Devour), but eh, I already *have* DBD, am used to it, and have fun with it. I'd rather spend $30 on cosmetics for DbD than take a chance on a $7-20 game and possibly not play it ever ever again. (here's lookin at you Phasmophobia)
Besides features, you'll need PEOPLE to be attracted to the game. Whether that's streamers or individual gamers that would be genuinely interested in being part of the playerbase. And people are unpredictable, idk. It would be good for another game to have differences to DbD to be more attractive, but who's to say people will actually LIKE it, much less stick around with it?
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Wish I could up-vote a post more than once. Or give it an award.
Well written, dude. 👏
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secret is to get good
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Ya but fri 13 got sued and stopped all major game production i was giving it a good go the first year it came out. tbh if they didn't get a cease and desist letter and continued adding content i would probly be playing that game rn it had a lot of potential. But sadly it will never be a thing thanks to legal issues. Dbd just got lucky enough to be licensed by some big names in the horror industry and they backpack off it.
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Baby survivor spotted.
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The lawsuit had nothing to do with it.
Look at that data. The lawsuit was announced in June of 2018. By July of 2017, the peak number of players was about 30% of what it had been at launch - a total flop.
The lawsuit was not the reason why the game failed, it's just that most people did not like it.
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ok
dont get me wrong i adore hsh so much but dbd has a firm grip on this market rn.
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It had massive issues that killed the player base before the lawsuit. Don't get me wrong, I loved Friday the 13 (Dirty No-Fear Baseball bat Jenny player) but the developers seemed intent on burying their game as quickly as possible.
Re: Resistance is another example of a fun competitor to DBD that the devs of the game appeared like they wanted to mutate the game into something awful and kill it as quickly as possible. Alex Wesker would have been proud.
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I'd play another one if the environments were more varied and had more interaction, the survivor cast was as varied and interesting, the survivors all had something unique about them or a unique power they could activate once per game to give some individuality, and the killers were as varied and interesting as the ones in DBD.
I would not mind at all if the survivors had a way to fight back or directly fend off and delay the killer in some way other than literally just running circles around piles of junk on the ground.
I would also love for there to be multiple ways to fulfill objectives and escape the map instead of it always being sit on these 5 things for a minute.
I'd also want each map to have a unique event or mechanic that you can build up to and activate somehow that both the survivors or the killer could take advantage of on occasion to shake things up from time to time.
I really enjoy DBD. I love all the characters and killers, I love most of the cosmetics and the designs. Not to mention the fun of having licensed characters like Freddy and Pyramid Head in the game. The bar I have for something that I think I'd prefer to play instead of DBD is quite high.
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this what I been say I don't think any other game like dbd could get these licensed characters with dbd having them.
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Well the flashy licensed characters tend to draw in the crowds more easily, but if they aren't actually interest in the game, they won't stick around for too long. The licensed characters learn cool and all until you realize that Myers is pretty bad and you can hit him with a piece of wood just lying around. There definitely is merit outside of the licensed killers, if the game's following is any indicator.
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Sadly I still play most games on console an was only aware of the single player hsh on the console markets. I wasn't even aware hsh survive was a thing until reading this forum lol. But I'm definitely picking this up on steam tn.
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