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Is Nurse REALLY a high skill cap killer?
Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were 
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.
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She's certainly easier to play on PC due to a mouse having much better precision than a controller plus the maximum controller sensitivity for DbD is garbage.
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But why do people call her the hardest killer in the game? > @MojoTheFabulous said:
She's certainly easier to play on PC due to a mouse having much better precision than a controller plus the maximum controller sensitivity for DbD is garbage.
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Survivors dislike the fact that looping is the least effective method for evading her. New killers find it frustrating to overshoot then lose visual everytime a mistake is made. You got skills, props to you, other people still have to practice.3
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in DBD all game mechanics are plain simple. Nurse has slightly higher skillcap with her blinks, but in general the skillcap is really low in DBD.
It comes all down to map knowledge and startegy basically (the thign called tunneling/camping/proxy camping etc)0 -
Nurse has a high skill cap because it takes A LOT of practice for most people to understand her mechanics. You have to have map knowledge and know where you can and can’t blink. Not to mention that one mistake will make you lose line of sight of a survivor and her painfully slow movement speed forces her to use the blink and if you can’t make a precise blink then it is pure torture trying to catch a survivor. Although if you are good with Nurse and know her mechanics then it is a cakewalk. She ignores loops and can catch survivors easily if you know where to blink.
If you already can maser Nurse on console then that is great...just that most people are awful with her at first especially on console.
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Rank isn't the same since emblems, horrible rank 1s who can't keep a killer busy for 30 seconds exist. Good that you're practicing on those lames lol. Nice people, but haven't earned their rank. Had rank 2 killers falling through the hole in the game etc, rank isn't about skill or knowledge anymore. Og rank ones would've ripped you a new a$$hole on that run.Poweas said:Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.1 -
It seems you didnt face competent survivors, never judge a killer by one game, but by multiple games with a variety of survivor skill levels, solos and swf.3
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
Poweas said:Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.Rank isn't the same since emblems, horrible rank 1s who can't keep a killer busy for 30 seconds exist. Good that you're practicing on those lames lol. Nice people, but haven't earned their rank. Had rank 2 killers falling through the hole in the game etc, rank isn't about skill or knowledge anymore. Og rank ones would've ripped you a new a$$hole on that run.
Thank god I'm not planning on ranking up any time soon lol
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She's considered the most difficult Killer because her power is something you need to really get the hang of to utilize properly. She's the only Killer in the game whose power actually takes skill to use, hence by comparison she's hard to play.
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Billy is harder1
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@Poweas said:
@Dabrownman1812 said:
Poweas said:Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.Rank isn't the same since emblems, horrible rank 1s who can't keep a killer busy for 30 seconds exist. Good that you're practicing on those lames lol. Nice people, but haven't earned their rank. Had rank 2 killers falling through the hole in the game etc, rank isn't about skill or knowledge anymore. Og rank ones would've ripped you a new a$$hole on that run.
Thank god I'm not planning on ranking up any time soon lol
Its not worth it, you dont get anthing for it anyway besides that cheap achievement/trophy for losing your rank 1 virginity^^
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Poweas said:
@Dabrownman1812 said:
Poweas said:Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.Rank isn't the same since emblems, horrible rank 1s who can't keep a killer busy for 30 seconds exist. Good that you're practicing on those lames lol. Nice people, but haven't earned their rank. Had rank 2 killers falling through the hole in the game etc, rank isn't about skill or knowledge anymore. Og rank ones would've ripped you a new a$$hole on that run.
Thank god I'm not planning on ranking up any time soon lol
Its not worth it, you dont get anthing for it anyway besides that cheap achievement/trophy for losing your rank 1 virginity^^
Made me laugh so hard my sides now hurt lol
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"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
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@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
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@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
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Is this a joke?
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@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
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Yea for sure and for several reasons. You need to know the general game mechanics very well, you need to know survivor pathing and you need to know how to accurately blink. It's the only killer I'll consistently get wrecked on playing killer at rank 1.
There's a reason you see so many streamers make up excuses for not playing Nurse. "I refuse to play Nurse, playing nurse is not playing DBD." No, it's because they know they suck as Nurse.
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@MegMain98 said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
Not all psychopaths or sociopaths are killers, doesn't mean I'll hand one a weapon and turn my back. In the same way, I wouldn't trust a Survivor main to be objective about Killers.
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@Orion said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
Not all psychopaths or sociopaths are killers, doesn't mean I'll hand one a weapon and turn my back. In the same way, I wouldn't trust a Survivor main to be objective about Killers.
It’s more on the judgment of the person rather than if they are a “survivor main” or not. I play both, however I play more survivor but I’m objective on killers without letting my personal experience (such as certain killers being notorious campers) get in the way of what killers need changes and which ones do not. Killer mains do more conplaining like “this perk is too OP” while survivor mains do more complaining why they died during the match.
We are not all douches just to let you know.
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In my opinion people tend to exaggerate about her skillcap. She just need a bit of practice with blinks, but once you get it she's the easiest to play for the simple fact that most mindgames can be countered with a single blink. I also find her power gives many "second chances", so unless you make a big mistake you can correct it.
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That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.1 -
see my last post, nurse is dead on console bro, everyone that not play on console says its broken but its not, her movement speed is ######### in a level that hurts, bloodlust was nerfed so she is DEAD
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@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
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@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
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There are people like you who are naturally good at Nurse ; then there are people like me who can't manage to blink through a rock XD
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@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
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Please stop quoting me...
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@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
Killer is still pretty easy I've been improving on Nurse a lot and got Shadowborn, Sloppy butcher, BBQ and chilli and a Nurses calling on her. Games are pretty fun and I feel the control. The healing nerf is dirty lol and with sloppy butcher it's really good. I haven't gave upon survivor and I've regained my skill lol. I was maybe a little mad about the windows nerf except for removing the mindgames to the shack it's really not that bad and easier for killer. The game is in a good state I'd buff Vigil to recover exhaustion while running for 60 secs since that'll be a little more fun for survivor but apart from that the new buffs are fun for both sides. Solo survivor btw.
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Yes...1
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Vigil should be reworked but exhaustion recharge while running invalidates the nerf made. As long as sprint burst exist vigil should never recharge while running. Alternatively buff all the other exhaustion perks so they can be regained whilst running call it fatigued instead. But increase the recharge timer to 60/70/80. That way vigil dosent reduce the perks timer dramatically.Poweas said:@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
Killer is still pretty easy I've been improving on Nurse a lot and got Shadowborn, Sloppy butcher, BBQ and chilli and a Nurses calling on her. Games are pretty fun and I feel the control. The healing nerf is dirty lol and with sloppy butcher it's really good. I haven't gave upon survivor and I've regained my skill lol. I was maybe a little mad about the windows nerf except for removing the mindgames to the shack it's really not that bad and easier for killer. The game is in a good state I'd buff Vigil to recover exhaustion while running for 60 secs since that'll be a little more fun for survivor but apart from that the new buffs are fun for both sides. Solo survivor btw.
As for sloppy butcher healing is hard but now more then ever will survivours need to have a dedicated healer or two. People need to start running autodidact or "well make it" to counter the healing nerf. DBD needs to look at giving survivours a means to communicate the role they will be playing medic, distration, gen repair etc.0 -
@Zarathos said:
Poweas said:@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
Killer is still pretty easy I've been improving on Nurse a lot and got Shadowborn, Sloppy butcher, BBQ and chilli and a Nurses calling on her. Games are pretty fun and I feel the control. The healing nerf is dirty lol and with sloppy butcher it's really good. I haven't gave upon survivor and I've regained my skill lol. I was maybe a little mad about the windows nerf except for removing the mindgames to the shack it's really not that bad and easier for killer. The game is in a good state I'd buff Vigil to recover exhaustion while running for 60 secs since that'll be a little more fun for survivor but apart from that the new buffs are fun for both sides. Solo survivor btw.
Vigil should be reworked but exhaustion recharge while running invalidates the nerf made. As long as sprint burst exist vigil should never recharge while running. Alternatively buff all the other exhaustion perks so they can be regained whilst running call it fatigued instead. But increase the recharge timer to 60/70/80. That way vigil dosent reduce the perks timer dramatically.
As for sloppy butcher healing is hard but now more then ever will survivours need to have a dedicated healer or two. People need to start running autodidact or "well make it" to counter the healing nerf. DBD needs to look at giving survivours a means to communicate the role they will be playing medic, distration, gen repair etc.
Botany knowledge is the best counter returns it back to normal sloppy butcher or not.
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@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
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@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
I've done great actually, mastered and stopped learning Nurse, currently learning Spirit and trying to learn Billy but I'm not used to playing loopable killers
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@Poweas said:
Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were . So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.idk your asking in the survivor area not the killer
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Poweas said:
Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were . So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.idk your asking in the survivor area not the killer
This post is irrelevant now, I've got my results ages ago, she's as hard as Hag. A slightly above average killer can master her. Spirit is the hardest killer.
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Ehh...I say it is platform dependent honestly. The hardest killers to master are Spirit, Nurse, Hag, and Huntress. Huntress is definitely the easiest of the bunch. On PC I guess Spirit would be harder since Nurse is easier to control on PC. Trust me, coming from somebody who is a pretty decent killer Nurse is harder on console than Spirit is.Poweas said:@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Poweas said:
Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were . So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.idk your asking in the survivor area not the killer
This post is irrelevant now, I've got my results ages ago, she's as hard as Hag. A slightly above average killer can master her. Spirit is the hardest killer.
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She has a high skill cap in term of the other Killers. The nurse the the hardest to learn, but not hard to learn, if that makes sense?
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@Killigma said:
She has a high skill cap in term of the other Killers. The nurse the the hardest to learn, but not hard to learn, if that makes sense?Sort of, yeah. But there's so much killers who take skill now that Nurse doesn't look as hard. Take Hag and Spirit for example. To play them in a completely optimal way is very very hard. But Hag is as hard as Nurse. Spirit is wayyyy harder. This is for PC btw. Also how is this post alive again? This is supposed to be dead.
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@Poweas said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Poweas said:
Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were . So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.idk your asking in the survivor area not the killer
This post is irrelevant now, I've got my results ages ago, she's as hard as Hag. A slightly above average killer can master her. Spirit is the hardest killer.
Wait what? You know at high tier play you have to deal with survivors constantly breaking line of sight and movement needs to be done via blink so you have to read your opponents more consistently then spirit. If your in doubt you can always walk to a direction as spirit and you will catch up and then phase when in a better position to guess. Nurse is very easy to lose if the player is still optimizing blink paths and making smart calls on survivor movements. Her mechanics are pinpoint, accurate and demand good reflexes. If as spirit you phase to a good location but are not in range of the survivor you can still probably score a hit before they reach a vault or pallet. I definitely think nurse is hard but when in high ranks blind blinking will be a true test of your skill also baiting dead hard's are tricky on nurse.
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@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Poweas said:
Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were . So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.idk your asking in the survivor area not the killer
This post is irrelevant now, I've got my results ages ago, she's as hard as Hag. A slightly above average killer can master her. Spirit is the hardest killer.
Wait what? You know at high tier play you have to deal with survivors constantly breaking line of sight and movement needs to be done via blink so you have to read your opponents more consistently then spirit. If your in doubt you can always walk to a direction as spirit and you will catch up and then phase when in a better position to guess. Nurse is very easy to lose if the player is still optimizing blink paths and making smart calls on survivor movements. Her mechanics are pinpoint, accurate and demand good reflexes. If as spirit you phase to a good location but are not in range of the survivor you can still probably score a hit before they reach a vault or pallet. I definitely think nurse is hard but when in high ranks blind blinking will be a true test of your skill also baiting dead hard's are tricky on nurse.
As spirit have you tried the tactic where you act like ur about to break a gen, use a Nurses calling to see who's healing in ur TR and I did something really scary because my obsession was healing and I teleported to her and downed her. I'm 99% sure she shat her pants.
As for Nurse, that's just from my personal experiences I found her the same as Hag. Nowadays I think she's a little harder then Hag because of the new map layouts.
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It's way easier to play her on pc compared to console, you have way more control of your movement.
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