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Serious question: Why are killers treated as second class players?
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Again I’ll refer you to @TheClownIsKing antidote guide
Legion was more of a standardisation if anything
Pop got a minimal nerf and thana was a buff
Undying needed a nerf and got buffed for a lot of other totem perks
We got PH blight slinger and twins. All at least B tier killers
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let's be hones, it's a ######### rework, yeah, better than before, but almost nobody tend to use the yellow bottle, because it's not worth most of the times...the real rework were the 3 seconds reload time.
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Oh, woe is me. :')
Literally the majority of balance changes are improvements for killers. the entire last patch was a butchering of a perk (that I didn't use anyway) people abused while not making it actually function for its purpose, with a new killer.
This is a legitimate case of you using a real term in an insulting manner and refusing to git gud.
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I've been playing Clown a lot more lately in red ranks and his yellow bottles are excellent in his anti-looping game. I use them a lot to catch up to survivors during chases if they made too much distance, and the yellow bottles do a great job at helping me catch up to them.
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Like glitchboi said when you combine both bottles on bigger loops (because smaller ones were never an issue with him) he can surprise a lot of survivor either by allowing you to hit them at the loop or catching up after breaking a paller. I'd add 1 bottle basekit tho.
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I had the idea of making the bottle count separate for tonics and antidotes (for example, you throw an antidote for a speed boost, so you now have 3 antidotes and you switch back to tonics and the count of tonics stay at 4)
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That could work too, you'd have to remember how many bottles you have for both. Maybe the yellow (speed) tonic effect could come in faster as right now it's hard to use on indoor map and useless on Lery.
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Solo will hopefully fixed once they roll out their matchmaking rework. *prays*
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The only way in which killers are treated poorly is the fact that every chase QoL change favours survivors, such as trackable movement and hearing footsteps. (Both were removed for no reason.)
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So because BHVR nerfed killer stuff you think you're being treated as a 2nd class player and below everyone else just because you play killer? Jesus Christ...
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It's because you're going against the victim complex hivemind that is killer mains on reddit and the forums. They can't be having that.
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oh I get.
The very idea that somebody could do good with Clown at red ranks without meta perks, when they themselves struggle with Nurse/Spirit/Freddy and meta perks in green/purple ranks, offends them.
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Please don't bring up the solo survivor experience, I already get a headache.
That's why I'm a killer main who plays Nurse, I can only blame myself unless there's keys involved. 😅
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this is a survivor sided game
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I never understood the difficulty of using Clown lol. Whenever I picked him up at rank 1 before they even removed the slowdown on readying up his bottles, I usually got a 3-4k...and I'm average at killer. It's one of the reasons I never regarded him as nearly as bad compared to the rest of the cast as others claim.
And yes, it is sad that people struggle so on those killers, since they basically break the game (with the exception of Freddy)
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Yes but twins blight PH and Slinger are all great
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Us killer mains are not treated like 2nd class citizens. We get a similar number of buffs and nerfs and the game is reasonably balanced. The only legit complaint is that moris got nerfed so long before keys, but it'll get balanced eventually.
If you're a bad player and want the devs to hold your hand and give you a 4k every game, this isn't the game for you.
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You mean "noob killer mains", we don't all complain about every single thing lol. Some survivors are pretty obnoxious too. "Oh no, I can't abuse DS. Oh no, a killer chased me when i didn't want them to. Oh no, NOED is OP" lol.
But yeah, this guy is kinda obnoxious. Plenty of killers like this complain about dumb stuff like "dead hard is broken, DS/UB is broken, survivors did gens too fast, survivors are too good at holding W" etc.
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The pendulum of balance swings both ways. Both sides get adjusted as necessary. This whole "survivors get m ore attention because they're the majority" misinformation needs to just stop. It's just speculation driven by biased circumstantial evidence at best.
Doctor, Bubba, and Wraith were all buffed by their past reworks. Trapper has also been buffed as well.
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They’re strong but they require a bit of a scummy playstyle to do well
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You are in fact wrong. In order to use a key you must do the obj to make the hatch spawn. 2 gens left with 2 survs make hatch spawn, 1 gen for 3, and all 5or 4 survivors
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Lol, no.
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I'm not sure I agree with the framing. The devs need to err on the side of the Survivor.
If it's too easy for the killer, 80% of the players who play DBD have a bad time.
Now, it's obviously bad for things to be too hard or unfun for the killer too... since every game, 20% of the player base doesn't have fun AND the other 80% will have to wait longer and longer to get queues. I can't even play Survivor this time a night since I'd rather play Killer... and play 2x more games.
I agree that before the DS nerf, BHVR went so far in the Survivors favor that everything broke down and got real stupid. I don't think people appreciate just how good the DS nerf is and how big of a quality of life boost it is for killers. Now, it genuinely is an anti-tunnel perk which doesn't randomly punish killers out of the blue anymore.
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BHVR doesn't want to upset their financial balance by doing more things that they're afraid would cause a major drop off of players. Their whole thing atm is just trying to funnel in new people as much as possible with little thought to retention of existing players, hence mobile and graphics reworks to keep the game looking nice for next gen consoles.
The fact they reworked DS prolly got them sweating bullets.
Notice how much the Killer meta has changed over the last couple years several times and how the survivor meta has not changed one single bit.
Rake em in and wait for those auric cell purchases. Got 10$ skins flying out left and right, but got to wait 3-6 weeks for minor game updates. And as long as those cells keep rolling in they don't have to do a darn thing other than line those pockets.
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Do you prefer 0k consistently and pip? Because perhaps survs get pips because they can't escape and devs need to give them something
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That's a nice way of looking at things. Issue is, If I know that the survivor team are using strategies or just generally playing in a way to intentionally ruin my fun. Then why would I take pleasure in the idea that these selfish, inconsiderate people are having fun? It'd be like if someone came up to you in the street and spat in your face and then laughed about it to their friends. They've been blatantly disrespectful so why should I care that they enjoyed it?
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no they ######### up trappers traps now they get out even on first try
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except before DS nerf 9 times out of 10 that DS was from a survivor that was working on a gen.
clearly wasn't tunneling
It is bullshit their friends can heal them though, I wasn't tunneling then
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They are not.
It just happens, that you have 4 survivors in a game and everyone could be a dick. The chance increases if you do something they don't like, like tunneling and camping.
Either live with it, because you can't change other people over the internet or stop playing. The devs won't do anything about camping / tunneling or t-bagging.
Somehow, it's a group thing. If you play survivor and always see people waiting at the exit gates, you maybe start doing it as well. I don't tease any killer, i am not a child, but many people are, hence their age.
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After the "three" deliverance escape you still feel like you need to add more bait to this forum
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I meant 2 not 3.
Get over it already
ez mistake
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The survivors' objective is to do 5 generators, open an exit gate, and leave through it. Removing any steps from that fundamentally ######### with the game balance.
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If keys aren't as Worthless as Mori's are now then its not really going to be fair. And I don't think it will be.
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