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Serious question about facecamp
what do you think about facecamp when all the generators are done, the killler is losing, and to guarantee at least 1 kill ?
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I think it's boring and pointless unless there's people there going for the save. 1 kill means nothing.
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I mean it is just the killer trying to secure at least one killer, I don't mind it.
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It's the only time that I actually think it's fair.
There is nowhere else to go. So at the very least you are securing a 1k.
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There is nothing left in the game for killer to protect. The least he can do is protect his one kill and trade hooks. Trying to go for more survivors is completely pointless since if you hit them, they will get speed boost and get out. Unless you have NOED or you are an intadown killer, then you can try getting more people.
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It's all fair in love and EGC!!
If a person is mad at a killer for trying to secure 1 kill during EGC then they have a very biased view of things.
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As survivor, I of course don't like it, but at the same time what else is the killer going to do? Their options are limited, and sometimes they can turn that 1k into a 2k+ depending on the other survivors.
Using BT, I've managed to rescue survivors who were being facecamped but were close to the exit gates, so even a 1k isn't guaranteed when the killer does that.
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Thats like saying one survive is nothing so just stand still and die.
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Facecamping at the end with STBFL 8 stacks and either the obsession is the one hooked or the last to try the unhook <3
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It is nothing. Except the survivor gets 5k bloodpoints and a facecamping killer gets... I think it's less than 2k?
If someone wants to facecamp for a petty kill, whatever. I'd rather go interact with the other side.
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If all the gens are done and he knows the door is open or 99'd then there is no point leaving the hook to go to an exit gate when everyone will just escape as soon as you get there and then you lose the hooked survivor to.
Camping to secure the kill is the smartest thing to do in endgame plus survivors trying to save can result in another kill as well.
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My opinion on this is kind of nuanced:
- I don't begrudge any Killer choosing to camp and try to secure 100% that last Kill.
- But at the same time, I don't think it is the best use of resources.
- I'd rather still try to get more of them. The gamble of the few points I'd get is worth the potential reward.
I think Killers benefit more from trying, as MadLordJack put it, interacting. At the very least, I don't suggest the Face Camp (what I call Squatting) because it discourages a pretty good percentage from even trying for the rescue. At the very least you should be Lurking (camping hidden nearby) or Proxy Camping as you try to intercept. If you have one Survivor, you have a honeypot. The last thing you should be doing is guarding it so closely that you can't use him/her as bait. Do you follow?
New Killers in particular should hook and then go hunt. They need practice more than the paltry few points that single hook is going to give them. Hell, they might make more than that in chases, hits, and potential downs even if everyone escapes. So either hook and hunt, or hook and honeypot.... but don't Squat.
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Not trying to come at you or sound rude but what’s the point of a 1K? I’ve never understood that.
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What's to understand? The Killer is trying for whatever they can get. Nobody asks the last Survivor why they don't lay down and die. :)
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Killing survivors is just satisfying in this game, without getting any kills, it feels like you just lost terribly as killer. Securing at least one makes you feel a little better.
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But like at that point you already lost, if you’re camping someone on hook and you’re not bubba or Billy and at least ONE person has BT they’re most likely going to get unhooked and escaped ultimately leading to NO KILLS. Also I said I wasn’t trying to start anything and it sounds like you are.
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Did you not read the chapter in the rule book about having to leave the last survivor during EGC so you can watch a survivor tbag at the exit gate while another gets the save so they all get to escape. It's rule number 678 in the book if you want to give it a quick read. I'm just looking through the book now so I know how I'm allowed to play this game.
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I'm not trying to start anything either; I merely commented on why I think it is an odd question. The last Survivor has, in all probability, already lost too. In fact, the minute the game became a 3K the Killer has already won. At this point they are trying to ice the cake. Why is that pesky last Survivor so intent on getting out? Do you see my point yet?
I don't think Face Camping is a productive strategy for the Killer either, but that doesn't mean I can't CLEARLY understand why he/she is doing it. They are trying (just like everyone else) to get the most points they can in whatever way seems the safest at that point. The Killer doesn't owe that one Survivor an escape anymore than the last Survivor owes it to the Killer to just give themselves up.
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What else is he supposed to do?
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They are just trying to secure 1 kill. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with that.
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It is the only objective the killer has.
He has no gens to defend. Defend gates are futile. Chasing survivors means nothing when they can just run straight line to escape.
So it's acceptable.
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I don't mind it But if the killer already killed a survivor or he had NOED it's pathetic to facecamp/proxy camp
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If all gens are done, I dont even call that facecamping lol. Regardless if its happening to me or teammate, killer has nothing else to do so its natural to guard that one kill or try to trade hooks at least.
Fully healed survivors with BT and taking hits can rescue anyone from that hook anyway if the killer is M1 basic one and gates are 99% no matter how far they are.
So no problem here with that, and actually surprised you are calling it facecamping ngl
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They don't always get one kill, especially Bubba.
I saw a lot of them finding other survivors on the gens and gets 3 kills at the end. i don't know how killers find facecamp fun.
I really dislike this type of game 'mechanic' and i find it like cheating.
They don't use their skill and game sense to find other survivors while leaving the hook.
They find it easy to use BBQ with free auras reading.
If we would have a survivor 'mechanic' who camp something, like hatch or gate, and having the ability to stun the killer over and over and the killer can't hit them or stop them.
There is no difference between them.
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I think they should play how they want.
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If you know the survivor can easily escape when you hit them once, its useless to chase a healthy survivor. So its ok when the killer stays on the hook. It makes the game more interesting.
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Sure it's boring if the killer just stands there and guards their only remaining objective.
It's also boring if survivors rush gens and then wait in the exit gate.
Boring =/= bad play, its literally the best move the killer can make, just as genrushing is the best move survivors can make. Waiting in the exit gate to teabag though...
Really, if you see the killer is camping the hook while the exit gates are open, your best move is to just leave. The best you can do when trying to gamble on a rescue is trade hooks. Sure that's gonna get you some altruism, and if you have enough hooks in you, you can maybe farm a few unhooks between you all and come out with some more points, but someone is still dying and it could end up being more than one.
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