Tricksters perks: xoes starstruck just make mad grit worthless?

loopsahoy

Exposing people for almost 50 seconds is really good(while carrying a survivor+when you hook them/ a survivor leaves the terror radius.) Mad grit is not worth maximum 50 seconds of exposure. Really, its highly avoidable because the killer has a speed penalty for carryong a survivor. Mad grit revisits?

[Deleted User]

It was already pretty much worthless.

Another perk being added didn't change that. It's just a better option.

Also they are similar, but still very different in effect.

LordRegal

I would argue it makes Mad Grit better. I farmed the achievement to down people while holding someone else 30 times with a Trapper build of Agi, IG, Mad Grit, and Starstruck. The combination allowed me to twice (different games) pick someone up in the lower floor of Coal Tower, carry them up to the gen up there, down the person working on the gen, and then fall out the window and slam dunk them on the hook.

Had a Rotten Fields game where I was bringing person 2 to the basement as person 1 was saved. Didn't have starstruck up. Hit person 3 trying to flashlight save once and hit them again as they assumed I'd respect shack pallet and I did not. Hit the saved person who clearly had BT stalling for time and to refresh Mad Grit's no wiggle time, and Starstruck came up just in time to instadown the saving survivor who assumed if he took a hit my backpack could wiggle free (despite not having been able to wiggle for most of this time).

It's a meme build, but it does work scarily well sometimes. Starstruck definitely does not invalidate Mad Grit.

TAG

Disagree. Mad Grit:

1) Ensures you still have enough time to hook the person you are carrying after Starstriking someone down

2) Still enables you to do the taxi stuff while Starstruck is on cooldown

Kebek

But those perks don't have the same use.

Mad grit exists to help you get to places, you wanna go to basement and not lose any distance due to body blocks. Mad grit is for that.

Starstruck is an exposure perk for killers with strong chase or mobility. You don't get hits on people when you carry but after you hook, then you go chase them down. And you can be body blocked with starstruck due to cooldown and sometimes even with it active, it would be very rare but can happen.

One is a kind of a chase perk, other is for improving carrying. You can combo them with other perks or together but they both have reason to exist. Yes, starstruck is better overall but MG isn't completely worthless because of it. It could use some buffs to better compete with SS but it's not a bad perk.

GoodBoyKaru

Mad Grit gets you accused of hacking and for that it will always be the better perk