SWF is fair and balanced.
fair and balanced.
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You know the majority of people don't actually struggle against SWF. The ones that do just seem to congregate on this forum and create a huge echo chamber, I would suggest putting more hours into killer, it's not that hard.
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It's a necessary feature in this game, without it many people would stop playing this game.
The only solution to this is to buff solo survivors as close as possible to the level of swf survivors via information, kindred as base kit and a totem counter being the main contenders here. And then buff the majority of killers that aren't top tier yet.
But I do also sometimes feel like some people exagerrate a bit how much stronger swf is. There certainly is a fair share of killers in this game now that can deal with good swf teams as well.
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One can't deny that swf survivors certainly have their advantages though, that at the very least some killers can't hold up to. The information they get allows them to be potentially very fast with gens, and that's something not every killer can hold up against.
But the balance gap also tends to get exagerrated as well in my opinion.
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SWF is not problem. SWF that abuses comms are the problems such as healing at the secluded place together while they 3 gen themself, one person took OOO(Thanks for the perk change BHVR) and told the others all the time where the killer is and etc... This kinds of SWF is what I hate and I dont enjoy facing againts them nor enjoy if I win or lose againts them. Other than that the normal group that want to play with their friends or a group survivor that teamed up due to their skills and play clean are fine. They are more competent and I enjoy play againts them because unlike solo they dont leave men behind, they try to be more assertive and they are playing more competent which is nice. They dont use comms to gain huge advantage nor they abuse the exploits, glitchs and etc... This kinds of SWF should be more for better experiences.
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You act like all SWFs are deathsquads/bullysquads on their way to bully every killer into oblivion they come across.
Most of them are just a bunch of people that play with their friends to have fun and are pretty ok to verse.
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my guy you gotta spice it up a bit im getting bored
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It's far easier to blame something in game than admit you might not be very good at it, which is something a lot of people that play this game lack, the ability to admit they had a bad match.
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be bored then, I'm not your personal entertainment
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considering your threads and comments seem to either be so submerged in bias you gotta soak it off for days or just bait, theyre generally pretty entertaining. but it's the same stuff over and over, cmon man, put some variety into it!
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right the sweaty SWF I come across in red ranks sure does feel like friends trying to have fun and not an optimized team that only cares about winning with meta perks and using comms to call out my location
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not your personal entertainer
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How are you Tony
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happend to me today, i went against a SWF(3 people), 2 of them were 3-4 red rank, and 1 rank 13 (with good addons), and yeah, it was extremely painful and unfun(...was using a trickster with 3 bad perks...).
SWF is unfair, because this game isn't balanced at all and it can't be competitive due to many, many problems( such as lightining that changes when you lower the graphic, and putting it on the lowest setting, the game becomes very bright, and not everyone knows this thing, so, if you play a sa killer without knowing this, you basically get a minor handicap.....)
remove SWF? no....but make an option that allows the killers to avoid SWF players.
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SWF only provides a greater capacity for coordination via communication.
It's still up to players to use their skills and utilise that coordination.
While they have an unfair advantage over solo survivors, it doesn't make them "overpowered" unless all 4 SWFs are also tryhard PC players running gen rush builds with all the second chances thrown in.
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Record your games and upload them, I'm genuinely interested in seeing how you play.
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Situation is opposite of what you're saying. There is couple of nurse/spirit mains or players who play at lowest server density time with terrible matchmaking who thinks SWF is fine. And they're making it look like they're majority
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Agreed.
A lot of people lack the ability to see their own mistakes and like to blame other things for it.
The only thing that it does is preventing you from improving yourself.
Quite a dangerous mindset.
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I don't watch any nurse or spirit mains.
I'm a huntress main that runs 0 slow downs and I ready up before everyone in lobby letting them take whatever they want, I still 4K the majority of my games.
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Is this like, the third SWF complaint thread you've made today?
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comms are essentially a 5th survivor perk and is equivilant to over 10+ survivor aura reading perks
and it completely ruins stealth killer strategies as comms will constantly expose where the stealth killer is also completely negates several killer perks like knockout.
that communication is overpowered.
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i mean, yes? she has broken hitboxes and pretty easy to win if she's skilled. Play some legion and tell me the same
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Then show some gameplay footage of you going against those groups.
I'm sure we can spot some mistakes you did in those matches
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I actually have a very good friend who main Legion and 4Ks consistently, try again.
You can check him out here - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/989473781
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"The killer's over here!"
"Where?"
"Here by me!"
"Where are you?"
"By the thing... you know... with the trees!"
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"######### I thought you said the killer was by you!"
"Well he was when I said it!"
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What time can I find those games? Getting sick of sweating my ass off just to pip.
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maybe that's your team but the average competent SWF isn't like that.
I don't see how your experience represents SWF as a whole
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welp lmao
First game I watched you camped basement and missed almost 60 knives on a dwight going around in circles, you could definitely do with some practice.
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Yeah i can 4k with him consistenly too, until i get good SWF so footage of dude winning some games is not an answer. Also this could be low server density time when survivors are super bad and swfs are rare
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How did you record my conversation with my friends ? 😲
I'm gonna sue you 😡😡😡
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Thats me and my friends when I'm playing.
Friend: I'm doing the gen here don't bring the killer to me.
Me: ok
A second later proceeds to bring killer over to gen.
Me: Oh right sorry I forgot.
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This isn't even his final form!
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It's different for each server. Usually when majority of players is asleep so night time players are usualy play solo without their friends. Also because there is not so much players matchmaking starts to form a match with greens/purples which are easy to beat. But even red rank survivors are much easier to deal in that time
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You're gonna have to give me some evidence that SWFs 'as a whole' are this elite commando squad.
Meanwhile other people are corroborating my anecdote. While it's not empirical, it does seem to have consensus.
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So you 4K until you lose and then just assume it's SWF without any proof? gotcha.
If killer want to be buffing the game around the 1% of death squads then they also need to accept that the game needs to be buffed around the the fact the majority of players 4K, but killers ain't ready for that conversation lol.
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not my fault trickster sucks
I rarely miss with huntress and deathslinger
but with trickster yeah it's easy to miss
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Or you're not very good with him?
I think you're just jaded, watched another match where you tunnel bill, immediately complain about "SWF" in end game chat, one of the players came to your stream and told you they weren't SWF and you still complained, even when told you're not going against SWF you ignore that and continue to say it is, I'm pretty sure nothing here will change your mind and you'll always just blame your losses on SWF.
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why are the devs catering to "1%" of the game population then?
it's only 1% so if you nerf deathsquad SWF only 1% of the game population will leave, no big deal,
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Then don't play Trickster problem solved???
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How do the devs cater to them? What has specifically been added to cater to SWF, from what I can see they're nerfing OoO which is a perk that some competent SWFs run so...??? try again?
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Signed: A survivor main. LOL
Yeh... right... sure baby... whatever you say.
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SWF isn’t a scapegoat for your losses. Sure matches can be harder but that are always winnable
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Well,i watched 1 match of you playing Spirit on Dead Dawg Saloon (The VOD from 14 days ago).
And from what i can tell,you seem to do quite a lot mistakes
E.g
-Falling for Sprint burst baits/Dead Hard
-Kicking gens without any perk for it like Pop Goes The Weasel
-Poor power usage
-Rather poor decision making and game sense
So just from watching that 1 match i can already tell that there are a lot of things you can improve upon.
I can give you some advice and tips if you want to.
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and now you know why killers only play nurse and spirit.
the only 2 killers viable enough to compete
RIP trickster because I was told not to play him. Can't wait for his random ass nerf in a couple months like they did to the twins.
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I'm 100% sure that you were not able to tell who was in a SWF in the majority of your games.
This low quality thread is personally, entertaining. Not as good as Sluzzy though, at least they're self aware.
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to be fair gen regression needs to be buffed and gen tapping for survivors needs to be looked at,
3 seconds to kick a generator for weak ass gen regression and survivors can completely halt the regression by 1/60th of an animation frame and can do it in chase
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I actually dont mind to see Nurse and Spirit as a survivor, if you recognize their weaknesses and learn to play against it. Seems to me that you complain when you cant get that easy 4k consistently? Yes, the Trickster makes you work harder to get the wins but holy hell dude just work harder. Dont complain the recoil is crappy, adjust for it,,,dont complain he is slower (which has been buffed anyway) pressure the players better. I play solo survivor every night and always come across a Trickster and most of those killer mains are very deadly.
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