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Should Quick Switching Be Removed? 🤔

Zesty
Zesty Member Posts: 380
edited April 2021 in Polls

I have always been confused to why this is still in the game... It is very annoying to just be in a chilled lobby and all of a sudden there is 2 keys 2 flashlights and a 4 legacy Claudette's… Like, if killers aren't able to switch while in lobby, why should survivors... The amount of times I have seen my team do this, and the killer just DC's is unreal... I think it promotes a toxic environment, especially at the end game chat... 😑

To fix this all what you would need to do is do the same thing to survivors as killers, so the killer will have enough time to adjust their loadout and think about how they are gonna go about with the match?

Anyway what are your thoughts on "Quick Switching"

Should Quick Switching Be Removed? 🤔 52 votes

Yes! It is "Toxic" and promotes a "Toxic" environment!
42%
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Not sure as never do it/Never see anyone do it.
7%
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I like the idea you said!
26%
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Not I high priority issue!
21%
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Its fine as is
1%
[Deleted User] 1 vote

Comments

  • Zesty
    Zesty Member Posts: 380
    I like the idea you said!

    Well Yeah lol... Also Option 4 is supposed to have A instead of I!

  • Kirkylad
    Kirkylad Member Posts: 1,927
    Yes! It is "Toxic" and promotes a "Toxic" environment!

    They should lock survivors chosen and their items in at the 30 second mark so at least the killer has chance to rearrange their build if they feel the need to.

    That way survivors could still rearrange their perks but just not give themselves an item at the last second.

  • selflessnea
    selflessnea Member Posts: 580
    Not I high priority issue!

    The killer is set due to them wanting to implement mmr in the future

  • selflessnea
    selflessnea Member Posts: 580
    Not I high priority issue!

    No it will never be re enabled unless the completely ditch the idea. Each killer will get an assigned rating based on how well/bad you do with them and matches you with survivor s of a similar skill lvl. Obviously if you start with your lowest skill killer then switch in lobby it would result in bad mmr.

  • Beelzeboop
    Beelzeboop Member Posts: 1,306
    Yes! It is "Toxic" and promotes a "Toxic" environment!

    The issue is more that they can switch to different items at the last second so that the killer doesn't even have time to open the loadout menu.

  • RivalJ
    RivalJ Member Posts: 19
    Yes! It is "Toxic" and promotes a "Toxic" environment!

    Its annoying and although it wouldn't be wrong to say its not a high priority issue its been a low priority issue since the game came out tbh so i kinda wanna see bhvr do something by now

  • PabloLovesMC
    PabloLovesMC Member Posts: 163
    I like the idea you said!

    They Should lock which item they use and the character they're using. Allowing Addon and Perk Changes is fine. I'm tired of a key appearing in the last 5 seconds of the lobby timer because it doesn't allow me to change up my perks and strategies.

  • PabloLovesMC
    PabloLovesMC Member Posts: 163
    I like the idea you said!

    It is toxic because by a survivor switching a character they can have a whole new loadout in seconds and do so before the killer has time to plan around it. a big part of a killer game is noting what kind of items the survivors bring EXPECIALLY when keys are involved. Survivors being able to switch like this is a massive FU to the killers.

  • notstarboard
    notstarboard Member Posts: 3,903
    Not I high priority issue!

    This almost never happens in my experience, so I don't think addressing it needs to be made a priority. Plus, I don't see this bothering people much once keys get reworked, so I'm expecting it to resolve itself.

  • selflessnea
    selflessnea Member Posts: 580
    edited April 2021
    Not I high priority issue!

    Ahh. Yes. Because people totally change there build around when they see 4 items in a lobby. You must really love it when I last second switch/ready up to a brown med kit because I was spending blood points on someone else. Because you were totally going to bring Franklin's for that item they last second switched too or light born because they switched to flashlights.

    Since your argument is based on keys. What if they didn't change characters to a key and just put it on last second because they thought hmmm maybe I should bring a green key just for memes.

    If you don't like this you can always just leave the lobby, but you should probably get over it because

    1. It doesn't happen that often to matter.

    2. It doesn't effect gameplay often enough to matter

    3. You still have 5 sec to realize hey I have to play like this because they brought that.

  • bm33
    bm33 Member Posts: 8,266

    I think they should just skip pre-match lobby entirely. When you ready up to look for a match, once a lobby would be full everyone loads into the match instead of second lobby.

  • PabloLovesMC
    PabloLovesMC Member Posts: 163
    I like the idea you said!

    You cant peave the lobby because when quick switching occurs it happens before you get the chance to leave without penalty. I get wanting to switch your character and items but its easily abusable. Perhaps BHVR could make your equipment locked when you ready up or when theres 15 seconds left on lobby timer so the killer has at least 10 seconds to switch up their build as needed

  • selflessnea
    selflessnea Member Posts: 580
    Not I high priority issue!

    You know you can close the game on the loading screen. No dc penalty for that.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,622
    Not I high priority issue!

    There is no other option in the poll,

    but my two cents on this is simply this

    lock in survivor choice and item choice at the 30 second mark

    that way survivors have leniency on character choice and item choice because when they get into a lobby is random and some people level other survivors

    Killer has ample time to see what items the survivors will have and can plan accordingly in the last 30 seconds

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,714
    Not I high priority issue!

    I mean it may not happen so often but it is super toxic. I tunneled someone for doing it until they DC'd which felt pretty satisfying.

  • selflessnea
    selflessnea Member Posts: 580
    Not I high priority issue!

    I wouldn't say it is toxic. You have no idea why it happened. Maybe they were Lvling a different character and just happened to switch last second. Them changing to a different item, for the most part, does nothing to affect the final outcome of the game. If it gets you riled up just quit out before the match starts, there is no penalty for taking such actions.

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,714
    Not I high priority issue!

    I do wanna point out they also had a hatch offering so there's no doubt the key switch was intentional.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,023
    I like the idea you said!

    I think the ability to switch items and the survivor you are currently playing should be locked. You can still swap your add-ons and perks, just not your character and item.

  • selflessnea
    selflessnea Member Posts: 580
    Not I high priority issue!

    Didn't make it toxic behavior though. Just because you don't like something does not mean it should be labeled toxic. Now weather or not it is an issue... I still think it is a non issue. I think there are far more important issues to fix then this. I would rather the team focus on other parts of the game.

    Also some people may forget this but there is a pre game chat feature. Maybe a solo is trying to figure out what to bring to help better the team and understand what they are running. For this reason I would say they should never implement a system like op described or even put a lock in system at 30 sec like others have described.

  • PabloLovesMC
    PabloLovesMC Member Posts: 163
    I like the idea you said!

    I like this idea better than OPs suggestion.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,520
    Yes! It is "Toxic" and promotes a "Toxic" environment!

    I don't think it's toxic, but this was the only yes option.

    They just need to make it so survivors can't switch characters in the lobby like killers. There's almost no reason you would need to switch characters in the lobby screen outside of using the last second switch to put the character with the item you didn't want to give the killer time to see and decide if he wanted to bring something to deal with it.

  • RoboMojo
    RoboMojo Member Posts: 1,326
    Yes! It is "Toxic" and promotes a "Toxic" environment!

    I really don't think it's 'toxic' to last second swap. Nonetheless, it does need to be addressed. Perhaps there could just be a thing in place where by the 30-25 second mark on the lobby timer, all survivors are locked into their current character and loadout. So there's no last second swapping into two keys and a map or something of that nature. If they want to use a strong item then they must accept the fact that the Killer may choose to change their build to appropriately respond to it.