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Rank Reset every month is stupid
As the title says, it truly is. So, as a brand new player at Rank 20, I tried to play tonight and there were far too many lobbies where the Survivors popped in with Bloody Clothing. Yeah, it's nice: The vets could derank to Rank 15 and then get the reset into the grey ranks by being lowered to Rank 17. Easy matches and bloodpoints.
Or, even without reset, they can easily be Veteran Killers who decided to spend bloodpoints to level up a Survivor and Prestige them before changing sides.
Either way, nothing like balance, even balance for an obviously casual game, where folks can be in the grey ranks with new players with complete Perk, Add-On, and Offering loadouts already established.
I'm all for chewing glass and learning a new game, but this set-up is completely asinine. I can't believe a Game Development Studio would have actually sent a game live, never mind live for 2+ years, with this kind of stuff allowed.
And yeah, I know: Just don't play for about a week and let all those folks climb back up. But when a new player has to not play because the Game Development Studio designs in such a ######### way, there is a problem. Nothing like sending new players off to play someone else's game for a spell. Never mind doing so every damned month.
This is truly one of the most new player unfriendly games I have played in a long time, and I've been gaming a long time.
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Git Gud
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@CornChip said:
Git GudNo thanks at this point. When a studio has stuff as unbalanced as they do against new players, where the Vets can so easily abuse the system, it's best to just shelve the game and go play something else. Which is pretty much what I'm considering.
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I like the rank resets honestly. I feel more liberated to do silly things. Use perks or add ons I usually don't touch. As far as the impact to low rank players, that will sort itself out very quickly. God forbid you go up against a challenging opponent or two. If bloody clothes scare you then you can always dodge the lobby.
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@Kilmeran said:
As the title says, it truly is. So, as a brand new player at Rank 20, I tried to play tonight and there were far too many lobbies where the Survivors popped in with Bloody Clothing. Yeah, it's nice: The vets could derank to Rank 15 and then get the reset into the grey ranks by being lowered to Rank 17. Easy matches and bloodpoints.Or, even without reset, they can easily be Veteran Killers who decided to spend bloodpoints to level up a Survivor and Prestige them before changing sides.
Either way, nothing like balance, even balance for an obviously casual game, where folks can be in the grey ranks with new players with complete Perk, Add-On, and Offering loadouts already established.
I'm all for chewing glass and learning a new game, but this set-up is completely asinine. I can't believe a Game Development Studio would have actually sent a game live, never mind live for 2+ years, with this kind of stuff allowed.
And yeah, I know: Just don't play for about a week and let all those folks climb back up. But when a new player has to not play because the Game Development Studio designs in such a ######### way, there is a problem. Nothing like sending new players off to play someone else's game for a spell. Never mind doing so every damned month.
This is truly one of the most new player unfriendly games I have played in a long time, and I've been gaming a long time.
It wouldn't be if they bothered to add a bp/Ishards reward at the end of the season based on your rank. It's not hard but they just won't do it.
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I suggest mastering survivor first and using those bloodpoints to get the killer perks you would like to have and for some insight on certain tricks that they may be using on youKilmeran said:@CornChip said:
Git GudNo thanks at this point. When a studio has stuff as unbalanced as they do against new players, where the Vets can so easily abuse the system, it's best to just shelve the game and go play something else. Which is pretty much what I'm considering.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of rank reset too, the first days after it are quite obnoxious for various reasons. I suggest you to wait a couple days, so that people settle to their ranks, before jumping again into the fray.
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People reaching rank 1, who then do nothing for months, and who then come back to still be rank 1 is also kinda stupid.
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@Kilmeran said:
As the title says, it truly is. So, as a brand new player at Rank 20, I tried to play tonight and there were far too many lobbies where the Survivors popped in with Bloody Clothing. Yeah, it's nice: The vets could derank to Rank 15 and then get the reset into the grey ranks by being lowered to Rank 17. Easy matches and bloodpoints.Or, even without reset, they can easily be Veteran Killers who decided to spend bloodpoints to level up a Survivor and Prestige them before changing sides.
Either way, nothing like balance, even balance for an obviously casual game, where folks can be in the grey ranks with new players with complete Perk, Add-On, and Offering loadouts already established.
I'm all for chewing glass and learning a new game, but this set-up is completely asinine. I can't believe a Game Development Studio would have actually sent a game live, never mind live for 2+ years, with this kind of stuff allowed.
And yeah, I know: Just don't play for about a week and let all those folks climb back up. But when a new player has to not play because the Game Development Studio designs in such a ######### way, there is a problem. Nothing like sending new players off to play someone else's game for a spell. Never mind doing so every damned month.
This is truly one of the most new player unfriendly games I have played in a long time, and I've been gaming a long time.
DBD was developed for casual players. I believe the devs didnt simply think about players trying to play competitively, and thats basically the reason for all the problems of DBD.
The whole rank system is a big joke and the monthly resets are part of that
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@Boss said:
People reaching rank 1, who then do nothing for months, and who then come back to still be rank 1 is also kinda stupid.First of all, it shouldnt be so easy to reach rank 1.
Imagine playing a competitive game and casually grinding yourself into the highest leauges (grandmaster or whatever) in a single week.
LOL,Dota, csgo and all other players would laugh at you
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Boss said:
People reaching rank 1, who then do nothing for months, and who then come back to still be rank 1 is also kinda stupid.First of all, it shouldnt be so easy to reach rank 1.
Imagine playing a competitive game and casually grinding yourself into the highest leauges (grandmaster or whatever) in a single week.
LOL,Dota, csgo and all other players would laugh at you
Yeah, it shouldn't be that easy indeed.
And you shouldn't be able to stay there by doing nothing either.4 -
@Boss said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Boss said:
People reaching rank 1, who then do nothing for months, and who then come back to still be rank 1 is also kinda stupid.First of all, it shouldnt be so easy to reach rank 1.
Imagine playing a competitive game and casually grinding yourself into the highest leauges (grandmaster or whatever) in a single week.
LOL,Dota, csgo and all other players would laugh at you
Yeah, it shouldn't be that easy indeed.
And you shouldn't be able to stay there by doing nothing either.Yeah it would be nice to have a proper ranking system like other competitive games, but then they would need to offer a casual mode too.
But assumign they would do this, we would have a serious problem. The problem is that only the good survivors would be able to rank up, they would actually need to tryhard, play SWF etc.
Those games would be very annoying/frustrating to play as killer (except nurse).I guess most players would abandon the ranked mode soon because of the balance issues and play casual instead (pretty much like now)
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Rank reset would make sense if we would get rewards at the end of a month
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And this is excatly what that "casual mode" everyone is asking for would be like.White_Owl said:Yeah I'm not a fan of rank reset too, the first days after it are quite obnoxious for various reasons.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Boss said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Boss said:
People reaching rank 1, who then do nothing for months, and who then come back to still be rank 1 is also kinda stupid.First of all, it shouldnt be so easy to reach rank 1.
Imagine playing a competitive game and casually grinding yourself into the highest leauges (grandmaster or whatever) in a single week.
LOL,Dota, csgo and all other players would laugh at you
Yeah, it shouldn't be that easy indeed.
And you shouldn't be able to stay there by doing nothing either.Yeah it would be nice to have a proper ranking system like other competitive games, but then they would need to offer a casual mode too.
But assumign they would do this, we would have a serious problem. The problem is that only the good survivors would be able to rank up, they would actually need to tryhard, play SWF etc.
Those games would be very annoying/frustrating to play as killer (except nurse).I guess most players would abandon the ranked mode soon because of the balance issues and play casual instead (pretty much like now)
Geez, is this what it's like to try and make a sort of competitive, asymmetrical, multiplayer-only videogame?
Almost makes me feel bad for the devs.
Almost... remembers the Howling Grounds patch2 -
I think the resets have more to do with their data collection than the ranks. Wouldn't be surprised if the resets get spaced out more when the game is further along.0
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@HellDescent said:
Rank reset would make sense if we would get rewards at the end of a monthThis. Why else would you continue to get to rank 1 outside of the achievement? Its such a headache and deranking by dc or suicide as a survivor screws others over, and dcing as killer is just dirty bc of the loss of offerings lol
I don't feel like splitting the queue would help the game. In fact, making it competitive would possibly kill it.
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The frequency of rank resets should be inversely proportional to the difficulty in ranking up, regardless of rewards, for the sake of matchmaking.
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@shasta said: I suggest mastering survivor first and using those bloodpoints to get the killer perks you would like to have and for some insight on certain tricks that they may be using on you
Problem is, I found Survivor very boring. If I do go that route, though, I'll probably just Survivor in the evenings as part of StreamDad's Open Lobbies for SWF that he runs throughout his nightly streams. No way I can do it solo and stick with it.
@DeadByFlashlight said: First of all, it shouldnt be so easy to reach rank 1.
Imagine playing a competitive game and casually grinding yourself into the highest leauges (grandmaster or whatever) in a single week.
LOL,Dota, csgo and all other players would laugh at you
That is precisely what happened many seasons ago in Overwatch when people used the original Mercy (before her reworks) and boosted to the top ranks. People have done it more recently using the broken-as-hell Brigitte.
And they are laughed at and loathed.
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I switch between survivor and killer. When ranks reset I will play survivor for a bit to give people a chance to rank and not be matched with them.
I am level 81 and got to rank 7, I didn't like it. The games became far less enjoyable and more tedious at low tanks imo. I am happy the my rank reset because of that. However, it also sucks because I want to P3 one of my killers and have to wait until the toxics are ranked out of my matching.
I get what you're saying though, there are a lot of I'm balances in this game. Both for survivors and killers (more killers but that's imo again). Its definitely fun to play if you stick it out and learn ways around dealing with the toxic killers and survivors.1 -
As someone who has been playing dbd for a long time and who has been following the game since beta. I really love the game but god does it suck to be forced into the low ranks.
I'm a killer main because I like to keep my ranks high on survivor so I can actually enjoy playing with friends and frankly because it's extremely frustrating to have to rely on strangers on low ranks who don't even seem to know how to play the game.
The fact that you're forced into lower ranks is good in theory, it's not fun to go against players who have significantly higher skill than you, but the system doesn't work. It promotes sticking to characters you've already leveled up and not trying out new characters.
This is even worse on the killers side of things. You're forced to play top tier killers because you get destroyed whenever you attempt to play some of the weaker killers and it's extremely frustrating. I'm forced to de-rank so I can actually play new killers and have a fun time because whenever I go back to the killers i'm good with. I pip up extremely quickly.
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I like going to lower ranks (as Killer, at least) because people are just better sports there, but Rank 1s go down to like 8? That's just setting up a straight week of curb-stomps, meaning an average 50% of people won't be having fun.
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@LazyPayday and @Captain_Doomsday Did you two just necro a thread I made from way back in 2018? Seriously?
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did not realize how old this thread was
yes, it's terrible
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If a problem is still relevant, I ENCOURAGE necromancy. It highlights the history of the issue, and ideally brings back a thread that actually provided useful feedback on it.
And rank reset is still happening, with most people still not liking it.
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If it is still relevant, you make a new thread. Necrobumping is generally frowned upon across all forums.
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@Captain_Doomsday Make a new thread? Enough time had passed. I no longer have an issue with rank reset. I actually would stop playing and allow reset to happen so I didn't rank-up too far before I had perks unlocked and was ready.
My 2018 thread doesn't reflect my stance by summer 2019. Someone with the issue in the current climate should make a thread about it.
Plus Necro'ing is a no-no.
@Peanits can a mod simply delete this old thread?
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Just counter it then. Play toxic those matches if there bullying and taunting you and you can't do nothing. When rank reset hits, I'm not gonna lie, I play with leather face to counter those type of players. When I know or figure out I'm facing a SWF toxic group, I start camping to bait them in. There always gonna go for the save because toxic SWF groups always expect to all escape together. Run insidious, and find a dark spot around the hook, and just wait. If you believe, they will come. Annnnd then the butt hurt that follows...
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Locking it for you @Kilmeran as you are the OP
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