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What is the best Bubba build?
Ive been running 2 different builds and experience different flaws in them, either i'm just bad or i'm using the wrong perk combos
Build 1- BBQ- Spirit Fury- Enduring-Pop
Helps me get my first downs, but once survivors realize i have spirit fury enduring they would just pre drop pallets. Also very weak against gen rushers
Build 2- BBQ-Ruin-Pop- Bamboozle
A decent build but i can't seem to find any value with bamboozle, are there any perks to replace it? Doesn't have to be a chase perk.
Im thinking about running Ruin Pop Spirit Fury Enduring, but the lack of bbq is gonna make my tracking weaker
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I personally despise the ruin/pop combo, everytime i run it ruin either goes immediately or ruin never gets cleansed, very poor synergy that is up to RNG.
I would recommend just ditching ruin, and go for Corrupt, BBQ, Pop, tinkerer.
Chase perks arent really necessary on Bubba his chainsaw is threatening enough when you get really good with it.
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Interesting build, never thought about running tinkerer on him. I think bamboozle isn't good on bubba, but spirit fury enduring are definitely insane
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Bamboozle is honestly one of his best perks. Combine it with something like beast marks / chilli and shack becomes a deathtrap without pallet (as do quite a few other tiles). My build is BBQ, pop, bamboozle and tinkerer. Works very well.
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I would not quit on using BBQ unless you replace it for another information perk.
Ruin and Pop makes for a good gameplane and is a much safer bet then Ruin + Undying. If you want you could opt for Pop and Surge as Bubba can get good value out of this: Hit one area with surge, see the survivors with BBQ and dash off to get a Pop on that gen. It is a bit of work but it is a fine one.
Of course there is Tinkerer which works nice on Bubba like it does on Billy, Infectious Fright for snowballing or Discordance to get more information. As said: One information perk is very helpful on Bubba BBQ is the most used on him because he just comes with it but Tinkerer and Discordance work very good too.
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yeah but a majority of survivors would just leave the loop as soon you vault the window, so it never works
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I feel like your builds are pretty decent. Bubba is a killer who I feel like you can have fun with the perks you run.
Here's my build:
Corrupt, Pop, BBQ (only for the points otherwise it would be Bamboozle) and Tinkerer.
Corrupt helps get rid of some pallets or get a few downs before far away gens can be worked on. Tinkerer on a 1-hit down killer is excellent.
One build I haven't run but I'd really like to try out is.
Ruin, Undying, Hex: Crowd Control and Corrupt/Pop/Tinkerer
Neither of your builds are bad it just depends on how you want to play.
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Surge is not good for Bubba. It only works with a basic attack. So there are matches where you dont get enough value.
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Seriously try tinkerer, its technically a chase perk in some situations because it can give you the down on the survivor before the chase even starts.
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Not in my experience (even at red ranks), because for a start I don't run the loop in a way which they can just immediately run to the adjacent tile. The key is to force them into a position where they can't make distance before blocking the window and that's before even factoring in a large number of maps have huge deadzones between tiles. At that point, they aren't getting away easily (unless it's something like Lery's, The Game, Hawkins to a degree or just conceding the pallet). Now if it's an L T wall then block the T wall and force them clockwise around the L, you'll get a hit either way even if it's not a chainsaw one.
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I run usually BBQ, Pop Bamboozle & Infectious. Very high snowball potential and Bamboozle plays windows out which are kryptonite to Bubba.
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I don't main Bubba but he's got a great kit and I enjoy playing him.
My build on him is Ruin, Undying, Retribution, and Crowd Control. Heavy snowball potential with this build. Crowd Control is amazing on Bubba. Retribution for info, Undying for support and Ruin for slowdown.
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Bamboozle, Infectious Fright, Corrupt Intervention, Whispers.
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Leaving a loop against Bubba is risky unless there is another one close by. When huge amount of pallets are gone, it becomes deadly to you leaving a loop
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Nah, windows are playable, Bamboozle just makes the killer way easier because playing windows as Bubba is like playing Spirit without Stridor and a good headset. Perfectly doable, but why bother?
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Without Bamboozle good survivor can loop you for minutes at T/L wall. With Bamboozle just vault one window and survivor gets caught. I've been being chased many times against Bubba without Bamboozle and they quit chasing or spent too much time at T/L wall. Good for you if you can down them easily. Maybe they aren't that good survivors.
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PWYF, Nemesis, BBQ, Pop
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Insidious, Iron Grasp, Agitation, and Monstrous Shrine
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Imagine using insidious and camping in the basement.
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Um, LT walls are one of the weakest tiles against Bubba. The survivors, at the absolute worst, have to consistently win 50/50 mindgames, and that's assuming the bubba doesn't know much about their power. I was more talking about jungle gyms and 4-wall tiles.
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Bamboozle, cruel limits, crowd control, undying
Show those windows you mean business
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I would not forgo using Bamboozle. Leatherface melts away pallets, and with Bamboozle you often force survivors to have to play pallets. Plus with how his chainsaw first has to accelerate, windows often make it difficult if not downright impossible to land chainsaws on survivors, whereas you can usually pre-rev on pallet loops and still catch up fast enough such that the survivor will have to drop the pallet to avoid the saw at latest on the second rotation.
Enduring and Spirit Fury are really nice on Bubba. Good survivors will try their best to stun you with pallets because if they don't you just saw the pallet and they barely make any distance. With Enduring however, it doesn't matter if they manage to stun you. And Spirit Fury can obviously grant you free downs. But these perks are not nearly as essential as Bamboozle. They are nice to have and fun to play with, but their impact is not reliable enough, especially considering what you said about survivors dropping pallets early and the fact that as Bubba you can also play around pallet stuns rather well, all the more so if you have good add-ons. So given that they are not essential and would occupy 2 perk slots, I'd recommend not using these unless you are playing in cruise control chill mode.
And unless you are really keen on the Barbecue Bloodpoints, my suggestion for a tracking perk would be Tinkerer. It not only helps you keep track of generator progress but can also result in free or at least easy downs. Tinkerer pairs magnificently with Ruin of course, so that's the next perk. Fourth perk is then debatable. I usually go with Undying since Ruin is just that valuable, but you can go with Pop if you prefer that. I'd advise against using Corrupt with Ruin since that is just a recipe for survivors that are then running around in the early game to find that Ruin, so unless you also have Undying and/or Haunted Ground, not something I'd wanna do.
So there: Bamboozle, Ruin, Undying, Tinkerer.
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Enduring, pwyf, nemesis, tinkerer
Double beast marks
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My one is Pgtw/Corrupt/Crowd Control/BBQ.
You can obviously replace CC with Bamboozle if you want
Add-ons I use Speed Limiter + Vegetable Oil but if you actually want to play seriously may I suggest Primer Bulb + Chili
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I use BBQ, Whispers, Corrupt, Pop
Mainly focused on finding people since I zone them away from windows and bubba melts through pallets already so I don’t see the need to equip spirit fury
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Sloppy butcher, Franklin’s, save the best for last, Hex: The Third Seal
All Bubba players please run this
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You're a horrible person.
I like it.
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Oh boy, it's Basic Bubba
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His chainsaw will give him away so quickly even with Tinkerer lol
I like Corrupt/BBQ/Surge/Infectious Fright. I find Pop to be a waste sometimes as people rush to not waste it. Surge does it automatically with less control. When you down a survivor, you regress gens and then trigger IF so you can slug and go for next chase or be aware of potential flashlight saves. If nothing goes off, then you hook and look for next survivor.
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Youd be surprised with how many survivors will be caught off guard by tinkerer
Also interesting build, surge is quite controversial on him but if it works it works.
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PGTW vs. Surge have different playstyles. I find when I run PGTW i usually find next survivor on a gen. Do I just chase them off to kick it or do I initiate chase? The latter is usually a better option given the fact that I have 1 person on hook. If I down them 20s later, Surge will go off since it has a cooldown of 40s (assuming 20s between downing previous person and finding next person). It can help tremendously if you have a strong 3 gen.
Even on other M1 killers like Doctor I enjoy Surge. Its a lot more chases and less kicking
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Im collecting stats playing survivor, and this Bubba build is the best.
You can guess his build.
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3 perks are enough:
Agitation, Iron grasp, Insidious
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If ruin never gets cleansed, then you won the game. The point of Ruin+Pop is that ruin has potential to provide more value than corrupt intervention and requires survivors to waste time cleansing it to remove it. Generally, if ruin lasts for at least 60 seconds, it provided more value to you than CI if you actually pressured gens.
Now, on that note, it is not great on killers that don't have map control.
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Pre dropping pallets is what you want with Bubba so the downside to Build 1 isn't a downside. Bubba chews through pallets faster than any other killer and his chainsaw is near unavoidable without one.
Replacing BBQ with Bamboozle would quickly remove all survivor resources, even from Gideon.
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Huh i never saw it that way
I dont think ill run it, but that definitely makes some sense as to why people run it.
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What would be the best fourth perk for that basement build? Bamboozle to end chases fast, or Franklins to deal with keys etc?
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You don't need to deal with keys, because you will guard them in the basement. Franklin also does not work with chainsaw.
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