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Survivor-side game
Have been consistently going against survivors with full loadouts, survivor-side map offerings and constantly bragging how they "escape" through hatch on last hook with a key. How many add ons and offerings do you guys need? Then they blame the killer for using yellow add ons, a majority of killer add ons aren't even a game changer.
People who say this game is balanced/ killer-sided, why? Have we been playing the same game? I'm a decent looper but will often only depip against a spirit or a god nurse. Most maps favor survivors more: Red forest and purgation have loads of safe pallets, coldwind has the worst lighting, haddonfield with god windows and tall bushes that do nothing, macmillan maps can have the worst rngs at times.
I understand that as killers, you're not supposed to always 4k everyone, but it's so much more difficult to earn pips as killer. You don't have to be a god looper to reach rank 1 surv, all you need is good add-ons and common sense. Devs are too scared to buff killers and nerf survivors because a majority of the playerbase just doesn't get it
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Why are we talking about balance and pips in the same discussion? They don't really have anything to do with each other.
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eeeeehehhhhh
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Should I start naming killer advantages when u already started naming survs one or we gonna save ourselves of unecessarry discussion? This game is neither sided everyone have chance to either win or lose there's half of maps that favors killers and there's half thay favors survivor shocker you just mentioned surv sided map.
By statistic game is killer sided but I'll call it equall because I don't think it's killer sided it's skill sided if u have no skill whatever role u play you'll think ur role is underpowered and that's why many solo queue survs think this game is killer sided... Because they lack of teammatez with skills and opposite if surv has skills more than killer than surv is over powered no itz not they just had more skills and probably more practice put in the game
Conclusion everyone can win or lose saying that let's not forget balance is 2 kills 2 escapes not 4k or 4 escapes
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I dissagree when you say the game is skill side because im a ######### survivor but because my friend carry my ass in most of the game im in the red rank to give you an example i dont even try to loop i press w and vault window that all. Perk, power, item and addon all that are fine most of them anyway i have a couple i have an issue with for both side and a lot of the perk need a massive rework but its ok i understand that the dev are lazy. What is not fine are the map 85% of the map are survivor side and the map that survivor say are killer side its because they play them wrong like hawkins at this point i think they should put all their focus on the map and try to make them balance i should never have to say to myself i need to break this pallet because this loop is an infinite if i dont break it and its like that for all the map they should allow the killer to have the ability to hit the survivor with some mind game
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But u do objective while he loops right? That's what most of solos lack of they have allergy on objective so skill is everything in this game not perks or anything else even tho they are helpful no doubt in that
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The game is SWF sided, killers and solos are on the same level.
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Because they told me too not because im good its easy to hit the gen skill check. What solo lack is communication in solo the other survivor have no way to know if im chase unless im the obsession. But with all that i still believe the game is survivor side because if the lobby is 2 duo or a 3 man swf and up survivor have a massive advantage call communication. But lets say we have no way to communicate with the survivor we play no discord no chat nothing then the game would be killer sided 100% of the time no doubt about it
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If ur friend was able to loop killer for 5 gens killer lacks of skill and mindgame or they were higher rank good killer vs good survivor =equal chances most of experienced killers knows how to shorten chase to minimum just like survs are trying to mindgame killer as well killer need to mindgame the surv we may disagree after all that's normally everyone have different opinion but mine is that it depends of skill of opposite side and using brain
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The game is killer sided until the survivors really learn how to game the system and play optimally. Once survivors learn how to REALLY play right, the game becomes insanely survivor sided.
So yeah, in a way, we are playing a different game. Newer/less skilled survivors think it's killer sided because they're too inexperienced and/or not good enough to take advantage of all their advantages where killers playing against experienced/skilled survivors think it's survivor sided because the game gives the survivors so many tools to extend chases an insanely long time and survivors who know what they're doing know how to take advantage...
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This game is very balanced actually. Get good.
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Big picture is mine is that map and comm ruin the skill the game have to offer because i know im a ######### survivor and because i can press w and hit gen skill check im in the red rank as a survivor so my opinion is on my experience as a player.
Btw nice opinion i rarely see someone that polite on the forum i love it
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I never used comms so I can't speak in name of that I do believe it's not fair for opposite side but we can't stop them for using phone call... And yes if it's full swf with comms and co-ordination it's definitely survivor sided game but in general I think it's fair play for both sides you were talking about swf with comms while I was speaking about solo queue that's why we misunderstood but yeah I agree in thay case absolutely survivors sided
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I laughed out loud at this response. XD
In my experience the game is more difficult as the killer, at least unless you're playing as one of the simpler ones and / or until you unlock the better perks.
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can't even provide a good argument, your average dbd player
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so in general, still survivor sided
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Yellow (or green) are killer’s best add ons more than higher rarity though
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Anyone who tells me the game is killer sided I just bring up this fact.
Ruin+Undying took 3 months to nerf. DS took 4 years /mic drop
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It is not survivor sided. Its actually pretty balanced. Killers are the power role in the 1v1. Survivors need to work together. That is how the game is designed to be.
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You would've hated 2017 DBD then.
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This game is RNG sided.
But, overall, it is killer sided until you get to the top level of play. Then 4 competent strong survivors will mostly have the advantage
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Eeeeeeehhhhh. I mean I know I did one thing very killer-sided once. The only reason I see the game as being slightly killer sided is because survivors forget how to be good teamates.
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Killers do very well against solo players and the game can actually become a fun experience. As a rank 1 killer I can say how rare it is that I run into this and more often than not SWFs literally ruin the game experience. Yes a ton of maps are made for survivors and I'm not biased since I'm a rank 4 survivor. When I get my squad for survivors it's basically an easy 3-4 man escape every time. It's a problem that the developers don't care to fix.
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There's no need to. I'd be listing at least 75% of everything in this game if I listed everything balanced. However, I can count on one hand the number of unbalanced things.
1.) Spirit.
2.) Spawn Locations.
3.) The disparity between SWF and Solo Queue.
4.) Gen speeds with an efficient team.
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If you think regular spirit is unbalanced you do not want to see what I was running on her.
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I meant Stridor Spirit mostly, but regular Spirit also has too little interactions with survivors.
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I wasn't even running stridor. I was just like alright what's the most bullshit build I can put on this character?
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So basically slugging?
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Is the game that survivor sided anymore? Anything pre 2018 dbd definitely seemed survivor sided
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They’ve been catering to killers for months now. Stop.
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It still is.
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Uh no. Haunted grounds, Devour Hope, Ruin and Rancor.
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Interesting.
Although I don't think that's as bullshit as a slugging Stridor Spirit
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What advantages precisely? The game is absolutely survivor sided in so many aspects considering how I play killer and survivor I prefer killer for sure, but how many second chances do survivors get? How many ways can they get away from the killer using perks or items? Aren't there infinite loops? The only thing the killer is supposed to have going for them is that they can kill survivors and even then that doesn't work out sometimes please tell me what killer advantages there are and why they make the game balanced as you say. The games far from balanced.
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You can count on One Hand the number of unbalanced things, one of that things is gen speed, the most important problem in DBD and the rest of problem's epicentre.
Yeah, seem that you know a lot about how balanced the Game is :).
If as killers, players MUST have gen regression perks, the Game is not balanced. I have 6 perks pages and I MUST use 2 of my 4 slot on PoP and Corrupt, or Undying + Ruin or Ruin + Pop. WoW, so having 50% of your perks slot to make a build due to gen rush is balanced?
Nice One sir, we play different games
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Whatever I say you'll say opposite so let's save ourselves from never ending discussion, offical statistics are out, stats that players did on their own game are as well posted her on forum from time to time and every each statistics so far has higher kill rate than escape rate literally any stats both officials by bhvr and player base stats now do with what u want and pls don't come to me with "but they dc'd" excuse
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Killers don't need regression.
I don't use any slowdown on most of my killers, and I haven't lost in 8 months.
And 50% is a bit much. You shouldn't be using more than Corrupt at the very most. It sounds like you aren't very good as killer, which isn't necessary something to be ashamed of. I'd recommend practicing more.
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The game is balanced if the killer knows what they are doing, and this is coming from a killer main.
So yeah, the game is mostly balanced, as I said. The only time gen speeds are an actual problem is with a coordinated, efficient team.
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I dont think its sided either way. My feeling is its balanced around a weak link or two even. As it is a 4vs1, I dont think BHVR ever thought teams would be this good. The best experiences ive had as killer is mixed usual. Maybe 2 reds 2 purples or something of that nature. The game feels balance with mixed teams with the conclusion being equally fun for both sides. I've been at rank 1 killer most of the time depip to rank 2 occasionally. Playing against a group of rank ones solo q or squads is not balanced. The amount of 2 chance perks, gen speed, body blocking, all of this is fine i understand its part of the game, but when you are in a 4v1 scenerio this becomes overwhelming to the single player. When all survivor tricks and perks are happening at once. Can i get a win against a good 4 man or solo q team? Yes, but it is based on cocky behavior or small mistakes on their part. Thats the biggest problem with this game is its dictated by the survivor team how well the killer can do.
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Thanks for your advice, Mr 8 months without loosing a Game xDDDDDD this forum is awesome
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SWF > Killer > Solo to be accurate
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Second chance perks aren't a problem, DS and OoO were broken af and they're now much better. The problem is killers are always expected to drop the chase and look for the weak link, but that's not possible in a solid SWF when everyone knows what they're doing. Most maps also favor survivors, meaning luring survivors to a deadzone is very hard to do. RNG favours survivor more than killer, and the game constantly adds new reworked maps and breakable walls to favour them
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How so? Sure we've got our DS and OoO nerf, definitely broken and had to be nerfed asap. There hasn't been a major rework for a single killer, sure wraith is decent now, clown has no improvement and the two top killers are nurse and spirit. Reworked maps favor survivor, Gideon with all the pallets, coldwind with the lighting, macmillan with the thinnest grass and very rng reliant. Wonder how they're gonna rework red forest, already a huge map with 30+ safe pallets next to each other.
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That's exactly my point, SWFs are way too strong and majority of maps favor them. Even if everyone says it's SWF sided, it's still survivor sided in general.
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don't forget OoO, 'not overpowered according to the statistics as the users have a low escape rate'
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im saying that winning/pipping as a survivor requires so much less skill, you don't have to do anything when you're carried by broken maps, add ons and the random rng
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Talking about general balance is pointless. In my opinion at red rank here's how things match up.
- Killer vs solo q? Killer is stronger
- Killer vs baby swf? Killer is stronger
- Killer vs average swf? Draw
- Killer vs good swf? Swf is stronger
- Nurse vs good swf? Nurse is stronger
This games balance is too awkward to call. If someone says the game is balanced then killers will say "a good swf is op" but will ignore the "but vs a good nurse they will lose".
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Nurse vs good SWF? Watch a few dbd tournament matches, the recent hexy one will show you how weak a god nurse is against the best survivors
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It is coordinated 4 man SWF sided. These teams are rare, and yes, they do need a nerf because of their potential. However, as I said, these teams are rare. You can't call this game survivor sided because of games that take place less than 1% of the time.
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Kekw saying that killers and solo are on the same level
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Yes SWFs who are very good are hard to come across, however u don't need to be a very skilled SWF to outmatch a killer, all you need is map offerings and have full loadouts to turn the game in your favor from the beginning
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