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Wraith is apparently the new Freddy

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  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    I’ve never like Wraith because he doesn’t chase survivors normally, he’s hit and run. It’s the same process “cloak, uncloak, free hit, cloak, uncloak, free hit.” He gets free hits due to his super sonic speed, 100 meter lunge, and the fact that he has better invisibility.

    He’s is very average. Not amazing. But his gameplay is so monotonous and stale because it’s all the same. Hit and run killers are so damn boring because there are rarely any true chases involved.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    I think new Wraith is only quite strong with add ons. At the end of the day, base kit Wraith is just old Wraith with a widdle speed boosty.

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    That's because many people appear to have already made up their mind about what the character is, and / or should be, and don't seem to want to appraise his new buffs objectively.

  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 892

    I main Wraith and i don't think that's true. Most of the time it's a 50/50 situation and not a save hit. And even the 50/50 situation counts only for very unsafe loops. If you can see him or the wall is a bit longer it's not easy to hit survivors.

    He is much more fun to play right now, he is stronger as i said in various other threads but i'm sure he is not OP or something. Everyone has different tastes and it's ok not to like to go against him. But many people just don't want to adapt as you have to be very aware against him. Once he is starting to chase you normally, he is the weakest killer in the game.

  • Toblerone007
    Toblerone007 Member Posts: 598

    Want to scrim? I'll play Wraith for unbiased data at unsafe structures and upload here?

    I'm not saying he's not fun to play. This only decreases the playing against aspect. Since his buff of 0.25s extra sprint out of cloak he gains an extra 1.5 metres of distance. There is no cooldown to this. I can assure you this is more than enough distance to guarantee hits regardless of survivor input on unsafe pallets. This is not a comment on Wraith's balance 1v4 but rather a loss of micro interaction relationship between Wraith and survivor.

    Safe pallet gameplay is exactly the same but that's not what I stated before you chimed that in.

    Please understand I'm not calling Wraith overpowered! This is simply about how fun it is to play unsafe structures against current Wraith (1.5 metres extra is without addons too).

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    Whats bad about hit&run killers?

    Why do people always complain about killers that don´t run in circles?

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919
    edited June 2021

    Because the fun part of playing survivor is the chases. It’s the same reason everyone hates Hag, she doesn’t chase. You step in a trap and you die.

    Wraith doesn’t chase. He bings his bong slaps you then leaves then proceeds to catch you off guard and down you most of the time thanks to a very long lunge which covers a lot of ground. What is the fun in that? There is no chase interaction. You barely have any chases with Wraith.

    I like Oni. I like Plague. I like Billy. I like Bubba. I like Demo. Ya know why? They chase and have threatening powers you have to play around. Killers like Wraith and Ghostface just hit you and run away and don’t commit to chases. It’s not about running the killer in circles, it’s about chase interaction and there is never any with Wraith.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    I never said it was a problem. I just personally don’t like the hit and run style or 2 of the 4 stealth killers. It’s a very very boring playstyle to me because I like the chase interaction not getting hit with Sloppy Butcher then snuck up on and having no chase interaction.

    Not everybody is going to like the same thing. Just because I don’t like hit and run killers doesn’t mean I’m asking for them to be changed, it’s just extremely boring to me.

    And the fact that I’ve been facing an influx of Wraith and Ghostface isn’t exactly warming me up to them either. It’s the same monotonous playstyle over and over again with no variety. The reason Myers is typically regarded as the most enjoyable stealth killer to play against is because he has a lot of different builds and playstyles. Wraith is the same bland playstyle no matter who is playing him.

    Are we all supposed to like the same thing or something?

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,005

    He becomes completely helpless if any of the survivors has a flashlight. Imagine if you could stop Bubba from using his chainsaw or the Deathslinger from shooting by just pointing at them with a flashlight.

  • WexlerWendigo
    WexlerWendigo Member Posts: 1,867

    He’s not too strong, just boring to play against and the best counter is to bring a flashlight which lol

  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 892

    Myers is regarded as the most enjoyable stealth killer by many survivors because he is barely a threat when he is not using some of his stupid OP add ons. I remember Wraith before the nerf was regarded as one of the weakest killers in the game and survivors made fun of him as most Wraiths don't know how to play him (most still don't) and just chase for 5 pallets. That hit&run playstyle you mentioned i only see at higher red ranks (and there i usually don't see Wraith that often)

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    Is the fun part of playing survivor not the chases? I don’t think fixing generators and holding down the button is the fun part of playing survivor. Sure I like my downtime and doing other things rather than only getting chased. But I don’t play survivor to hold down a button, I play for the interaction with the killer. You ever played against an AFK Wraith? Yeah. That’s not enjoyable at all. The interaction with the killer is usually the main “fun” part of survivor.

    Which is why when I play killer I don’t understand when survivors play immersed all the time, that gets so boring and so old quick. Just like getting downed with no chase interaction.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    Myers isn’t that strong but he’s an enjoyable killer to play as and against and sometimes the “fun” aspect is just as important.

    Wraith was weak. Now he is pretty damn good. And that’s great. But I’ve never liked Wraith. Even when he was awful. Just don’t like the hit and run 😭.

    And lucky you. All I see are Wraith, Ghostface, Huntress, and Nurse.