borrowed time is o.p and unfair
a survivor can literally be rescued with borrowed time every time they are unhooked . this makes the killer have to chase the survivor all over again if they don't camp them . I do not camp but borrowed time needs to be nerfed as it makes the survivor to strong . as a killer main I get that I need to chase survivors but I should'nt have to chase a survivor constantly because they keep on getting borrowed timed of the hook . the borrowed time should only activate once per survivor meaning if they are in borrowed time and they are hit after they are hit in borrowed time if they are taken of the hook again by a survivor with borrowed time it would not activate if they are hit .
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Borrowed time lasts what 12 seconds? If you're not camping why are you going for the person that's just off the hook again? You people obviously never play solo queue survivor. The absolute joy of getting "rescued" off the hook by a teammate without BT for you to immediately go down again because the killer is proxy camping. Unironically get good.
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if you don't tunnel it wouldn't be an issue, as someone who plays a lot of killer, I rarely find borrowed time being that much of an annoyance. But if you feel like you still feel this way, the best killer to counter BT with is leatherface as you can hit them twice quickly with the chainsaw.
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Agreed,
12 seconds of BT effect can only affect campers/tunnelers. This is EXACTLY BT's purpose, counter tunneling and camping.
So if you think this is OP and annoys you, just play well and go get the other surv, because as what I semm to understand, you are playing in a way to ruin the hooked surv's playing experience.
If you ever tried playing solo queue survivor, you will see that if you get hooked once, then unhooked and downed right away, you will think your game is really unfun, expecially if you play with bad mates who unhook you in front of the killer.
Also, the right manner to play usually is to go for the survivor who unhook someone in front of you (killer). Just make him learn a unhook in front of the killer is punitive.
So I absolutely disagree for a disable/nerf. It is very good as it is.
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BT is fine
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In general I agree, but I do kinda want BT's endurance to remove collision so there's no bodyblocking. If I catch a survivor going for a rescue and target them, it feels really bad that I get punished for -not- tunnelling.
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Oh please... BT is fine as it is.
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Also, if they try to take a protection hit for their teammate they revoke their right to not be tunneled. I'll gladly wait the 12 seconds and put them back on the hook. If they run away? I'll chase the rescuer. But, if they run at me with BT they are getting tunneled.
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This. I would be 100% cool with removing collision in exchange for making it 15 seconds duration again. BT bodyblocking doesn't really have a counter in a lot of situations. BT should protect against tunneling, not make a survivor an unstoppable meat shield for 12 seconds
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The only change I want to BT, and it'll be perfect.
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thats the thing the killer has to deal with BT as well as body blocking which is something survivors do now its just not fair for the killer they have to much time to escape of hook/do gens . and I can't just "chase another survivor" by the time I hook a survivor 2 gens will have been done unless I have the ideal perks as killer which rarely happens and I can hook them by the time 1 gen is done if lucky . survivors are getting to constantly get borrowed timed and are body blocking the killer after the survivor is unhooked and this needs addressing by the devs . if they are borrowed timed twice thats 22 seconds plus being body blocked thats a lost 3 seconds for every body block hit that amounts to 28 seconds plus any pallets that are left thats almost 30 seconds for every unhooked survivor that is unfair for the killer .
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Not really. It's not. I'm a killer main and I'm fine with bt
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It's not unfair, it just works like old DS on a shorter timer:
Complete invincibility in almost any scenario, and the killer doesn't know you have it until it's too late. Being easily abusable is just how that perk functions.
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bt is fine, camping and tunneling are not, you could never increase your skills since camping and tunneling only works for solo survivor, you would easily destroyed by SWF
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Borrowed Time is fine.
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I wish BT was basekit honestly, you can make up some lore reason for it to be basekit because getting tunneled off of hook when your team mate isn't running it is the worst. And it really limits what builds you can run because it does feel that BT is a necessary perk slot.
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BT is completely fine the way it is
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Hey, at least they devs destroyed DS! It's probably why you're going to be seeing even more Borrowed Time than ever before, at least from any halfway decent survivors. But yeah, it is sad that you can't camp and tunnel a person out of the game without them even having a chance to keep playing :) :)
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BT is free +300 for hit without downing unhooked survivor:)
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Borrowed time OP? Now that is funny.
Borrowed time is there to give you a chance against campers/tunnelers and in my view Borrowed time should be part of the survivor base kit.
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This. I may play killer mainly, but i understand how horrible this is and just turn it into a slug, not a hook usually.
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easy strategy if you want to tunnel the unhook survivor that effected with BT. Chase him/her for 12 scs and then you M1 him/her. simple. dont get quickly hit them after they unhook. waiting for 12 sc. they will get panic wkwk
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As someone that literally just had this happen to me against a Billy on Hawkins... killed my mood for the game for the night. I got sandbagged by a teammate when I saw the killer coming. He went to chase the two that saved... because over altruistic is awesome... and heard me groaning so he turned and went right after me. Needless to say. Killed the fun right out the gate. I don't run DS because... well it doesn't do anything for me ever. Timing is never right.
Short of it. If we're wanting to keep new players coming back and enjoying the game, don't punish them for the poor decisions of their team mates. Don't try to yet them out of the game quickly for the sake of that 4K. It kills the game right off the bat and blows their chances of "getting good" out of the water.
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Tunneler revealed
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As a Killer Main BT is fine
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I don't mind BT, Its a good perk.
However I am not a fan of BT body blocking. I want that rescuer, not to tunnel / hit the unhooked person.
Sometimes when I get mad and tired of it during the match I will decide to "Okay, you wanna get the hit so hard? Fine, back on the hook you go." :-)
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it's better for the survivor to take the BT hit than not to. unfortunate for the killer, but true.
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Excatly. It means sprint burst for u, the rescuer has more time to leave, and killer has a stop on hit animation. It´s a very fair response for tunneling. However, real tunnelers will probably continue the tunnel following the unhooked guy.
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it's kind of stupid, but it's a necessary evil for the most part.
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