Wraith needs to be NURFED?!
Playing against a Wraith is an automatic L.
He's to fast, his lung hits coming out of being cloaked is ridiculous. He be hitting me like 20 miles away coming out of his cloak.
Now that the Trickster is buffed, playing survivor isn't fun anymore.
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Wraith is weak to predropping unsafe pallets and playing every other tile relatively normally, though clearly with considerarion to his lunge.
Basically, if an m1 killer can get you there after the pallet is thrown, Wraith can get you before it's thrown.
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some addons need to be nerfed yeah but his base kit is fine
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Wraith is fine, he’s right where he needs to be. They might need to increase the rarity of his All Seeing add-on, but that’s about it.
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This. Wraith has aot of really strong add-ons but you almost never saw them because windstorm was mandatory to ron on him. Now that this isn't the case you actually see these add-ons in action. He defiantly needs an addon pass.
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He's fine.
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No
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He's fine.
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I think he is in a good spot right now.
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He's super easy to use and stronger than people gave and give him credit for. I'd slap a nerf on some of his addons (make the yellow clapper the pink and remove the silent pink from existing, nerf or change the aura reading ones as well) and see if that helps calm him down against solos and the casual SWFs.
Not sure why you are onto Trickster though, his buffs haven't even came out and actually came with nerfs as well...
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I can screw around with him and get a 3k. He’s dangerous for survivors who don’t know how to deal with him. I don’t like going against him myself.
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No, you just need to adapt to his lunge. He’s in a great spot right now.
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Technically, he was already nerfed because he was given an uncloak movement speed nerf to compensate (in which I disagree with the nerf). Old Wraith with Windstorm is stronger than Wraith's current base-kit because you're able to hit the survivor more consistently since you could move slightly faster while uncloaking.
Other than that, All-Seeing Blood needs a rework and that's about it. He's a very balanced killer with decent chase, solid mobility, and counterplay.
His lunge is exactly the same btw.
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Maybe a L for you but I make plenty of escapes against him, and I'm solo.
If you aren't having fun with survivor switch sides, or don't play and take a break.
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Yeah mostly all seeing and his iri clapper
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Im assuming you're going to provide some gameplay soon?
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Yikes! Wraith is my favorite killer to play and to face. He's not even close to needing a nerf. Spine chill counters him from far away
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Not even.
Wraith has been trash for several years and still isn't a true threat to any competent survivors. Potatoes at high ranks give the illusion of this killer being better than he is.
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You ever run spinechill, sprintburst? That counter him hard, just hold w lol and pre drop pallets, his addons are fine as well. Maybe play wraith yourself and learn from better survivors
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What about him feels like cheating though? The lunge speed?
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Probably nothing, but they're to admit they are the once making to many mistakes.
So they blame him because they can't adapt
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I’m with you. He is my least favorite killer to go against at the moment. I didn’t even like playing against him before he was buffed. His snowballing potential has Hag nodding her head in approval.
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Bone Clapper is no where near an Ultra rare addon. He's finally in a good spot.
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Wraith can easily zoom around unsafe pallets with his newly discovered Formula 1 acceleration. Just uncloak, zoom and hit.
And this is kind of funny, because unsafe pallets were something a lot of killers wanted because they require "mindgaming". But the bing-bong F1 racecar doesn't need mindgames at unsafe pallets. Uncloak, zoom and hit.
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Wraith is... weak?
I dunno how people can lose to wraith in this day and age..
for new people i understand but people generally should have an idea on how to loop properly.
Wraith against decent / good survivors is a automatic L even with his ultra rares,
He's fine the way he is. No nerfs needed,
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He can only do that if he was given control of the pallet before it was dropped. Once it's down, the survivor has the same play as normal - fake it, or vault.
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No Wraith is not that good.
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,,abusers"
Sure.
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Then play killer and wraith is fine as he is now
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Yeah sure he is definitely OP as well as his add ons 🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/oFG7uPFWmhc
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Listen i've been playing a lot of wraith lately(since even before he got windstorm basekit), im at rank 1 I win the majority of my matches and the games I lose are usually because I didnt play well and yeah some are because wraith does just have limitations, but there are only 2 killers in the game that can handle "competent" survivors with bad rng maps so by this metric every killer should be as strong as nurse and spirit when that would ruin the game. Nurse and spirit are so unbelievable overkill for the vast majority of games that only tournament teams are able to do anything about them when played correctly and well.
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Nerf him into the ground for all I care. I don't consider him strong by any means but I hate facing the Wraith.
The less of a chance I have of facing him, the better.
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wraith is one of the best pubstompers in the game. that's really it.
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Survivors need to learn how to play around Killer powers instead of demanding every Killer that wins be nerfed until they can't win anymore. 🤷♂️
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I agree, he needs an overheat mechanic =)
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how would that work
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He was literally just nerfed…
They added free windstorm base kit but took away the uncloak lunge…add-ons are required to negate the negative effects before or after. Wraiths used to be required to bring windstorm, now they gotta bring swift hunt, same outcome really…add-on reliant.
The only actual buff he received is not being able to be seen from half-way around the map. IMO, previous Wraith was stronger.
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It is only an automatic L because you are not good at countering him. I am willing to bet, based on your exaggerations and poor spelling that your understanding of his play is lacking. You can easily counter wraith. You're whining and looking for easy killers to bully, that is sad. Put that energy into getting better. Learn how to judge his lunge and where to go when he is after you to counter his power.
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new and bad players do not understand what they are doing or how to counter him. 85% of players in red ranks have some idea.... even if they cant do it consistently, but 1in5 or so can counter him for a bit. I personally rarely get hooked more than once by a wraith... and its not fast. so much counter to him. He is strong, sure, but he is not THAT strong, people are just lacking in skill or knowledge. Most gamers just run from tile to tile with hopes stuff is there.... its easy money for any killer facing people like that.
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Well yeah.
I rate Wraith Low B tier. in terms of going against actual survivors,
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It is arbitrary to throw letters out when talking about a random tier list... even top level players use the tier list system differently. C is pretty much universally trash tier... so B- is far too harsh. He is solid middle of the pack. Against low tier survivors he is as boring as slinger, because they cannot ever outplay it, so he looks far better.
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No, he's currently balanced has good perks synergies, good add-ons, good hit & Run, not nearly as map dependent, good mobility, a lunge that helps at short unsafe loops. Best stealth killer in the game. Yet, suffers from healing perks, Med-Kits, exhaustion perks, open maps, strong loops, and flashlights, He's a perfectly balanced killer.
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I ran a rank 1 sweaty ass wraith for 3 minutes in a 1v (team got obliterated) and I'm not the best Survivor in the world. He's fine. He's strong but you can play around him.
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After being a bottom rung killer who was forced to rely on one specific add on to even be playable, he's fine as is. Start running Spill Chill and Sprint Burst. You can never go wrong with that combo if you're having trouble in chase with him. I will admit certain add-ons make him quite strong, so maybe a look into those would help.
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I go by S A B C and F.
B is very... generous,
F is for trickster, he stays there.
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Wraith was OP a few patches ago, but they nerfed him and that ended the Wraith meta.
He's fine right now.
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Lol what? I dont think ive ever lost a match to a Wraith. Literally vault a window or bring a flashlight and you win.
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Wraith is C tier now. Not good, nothing to complain about.
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Not everyone is a god of DBD like you are.
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B tier on my tier list of S,A,B,C,F.
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F is reserved for Legion, Myers, and Trapper
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