Killer Perk Tier List
I did this for the survivor perks the other day, so thought I'd do it for the killer side as well. This is after the proposed changes that were in the PTB, although I'm a console player so they're mainly based on how I feel they'll land. For example, no way out sounds extremely strong, especially if a survivor or two is already killed, and combined with other endgame perks, maybe I'm missing something but it sounds insanely good?
Also, I am a survivor main, but an ex killer main, so my opinions here may not be as accurate as my survivor tier list.
I added S+ exclusively for the killer tier list, as I believe tinkerer is the only perk in the game right now that is too strong, and does way too much for high mobility killers, as well as synergising so well with other meta perks. I think it needs a cooldown, or to only activate once per gen, etc just something to make it stop being so amazing on blight, nurse, etc. Although obv a great nurse doesn't need it.
But yeah I'd say overall both killers and survivors have way too many perks in the bottom two tiers, and I wish BHVR would buff some of them.
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I’d say Play with your food could maybe be a tier higher. It’s not good on most killers but on the killers who do benefit from it it’s not bad.
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Coulophobia is definitely not terrible imo. Even on normal 32m TR killers it can have some use and will interrupt heals pretty consistently
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Tinkerer is good perk but by itself it doesn't do that much. It becomes as strong as you see it only if paired with the other stuff that makes it work like ruin and high mobility killers. But I understand why would you see it that way.
Other then that, pretty reasonable list. I wouldn't put DH and NWO so high but that's also debatable.
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I don't know what you could do to Tinkerer without reworking it entirely.
Give a cooldown? Not gonna help. They'll regress the gen and you're back at square 1.
Once per gen? Definitely a big nerf, but during a clutch match, especially against Blight and Nurse? Yeah, you're still dead.
The fact it warns you when a gen hits 70% alone makes it one of the best perks in the game. Combine that with literally EVERYTHING else about it? Solid meta. I just find it funny how people didn't give much attention to it post-buff until after Blight came out.
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PWYF is not terrible, IMO. Its really good on some killers.
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I just don’t think it’s favoured in the current meta at all, cannibal doesn’t need it anymore, and neither does wraith
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Tinkerer overrated as hell
It works only on specific killers and the perk alone doesn't do anything
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No Way Out, Haunted Grounds and Enduring are overrated here, those should drop a tier. And PWYF is a solid B, it's amazing on Ghostface and Wraith.
I also agree that Tinkerer was overbuffed.
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But does wraith really need the extra 15% now? I don’t think so.
I still think haunted is fine where it is, as if you give on average 1 down because of it per game + time wasted, it’s getting value.
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15% extra speed is basically free bloodlust 3 on Wraith. It helps a ton on long loops on which his lunge isn't that good.
Haunted is not a bad perk, but putting it into A tier for me is a stretch. It can blow up on really bad times (like if everyone is injured or hiding) or not even blow up at all if survivors are smart.
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It's hard to do a killer perk tier list, because perks work differently for different killers.
I don't think Tinkerer is OP. Once you figure out they have it, you can plan around it.
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I agree with tinkerer. I run it on any killer that I want to have a strong build, even including stealth killers and doctor. It has the best tracking hability and the stealth is just a plus.
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Tinker is an A at best since it won't work with killers such as huntress. If anything ruin is S tier since it works with any killer.
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Tinkerer best killer perk? Lol
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I’m not ranking as an average on all killers
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My power is surprisingly high
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Pwyf still helps at loops that he has to play normally though
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Here's mine. It's probably really bad because I haven't even used like 60% of these perks
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Honestly that is a pretty reasonable list, though I would say you've underrated PWYF and Coulrophobia, and overrated Tinkerer.
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It’s not the best killer perk, it’s the best perk in the game period
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Tinkerer is easily #1, no other perk in the game handholds a player in the game as much as it does.
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Tinkerer is not that good. And Devour Hope is another Unbreakable can be a game changer but mostly you get no value at all out of it and perks like that can't be A-tier if you ask me.
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You hate this perk because of Blight, are not you? 🙃
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No, I hate that all blight’s use it, not on him specifically. It’s much worse on Nurse, although they rarely seem them to use, tinkerer nurse who is good is gg
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Tinkerer is definitely not the best killer perk in the game.
I also don't think Infectious Fright is S tier. It's good don't get me wrong, but you can really only make it "amazing" on Oni and Nurse.
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Just like everyone else here pointed out, Tinkerer is not that good. First of all, it still has the same flaw that its very first version had: not every killer can use it. Not to mention that the perk by itself does nothing except giving you information.
And besides, once survivors realize that you have it, it is very easy to play around it.
Tinkerer is not the best perk in the game. It never was.
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Yeah, killers that depend on their terror radius like legion and spirit make tinkerer a trash perk on them. Also it’s easily counter by spinechill, prove thyself, splitting gens, any toolbox, or just hide when the gen almost done. Even in solo q tinkerer only give you 1 free hit before anyone realize you have it.
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Myers gets a good amount of use out of it too, a decent amount
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This just shows that only regression perks are mandatory for killer.
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You can not play around tinkerer, it activates with no if, or buts. It’s not like discordance, BBQ, etc where there is counter, there is none.
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My disputes on the tier list. (omissions basically implying I'm either agreeing, or the difference in opinion is so minor it's not worth bringing up)
Tinkerer is not overpowered, and belongs with the other S-tiers. All Tinkerer really does is give the killer awareness of how the match is progressing. In reality, spread gens when there's a lot of gens left hard counters it early game (what's the killer going to do with 3 tinkerer procs?), and 2 survivors on a gen greeding it typically results in the gen getting completed if it's super vital. I think the only killers that could save a gen worked on by Duos after Tinkerer activates is Iri Tag Blight, Billy, Or Oni if his power happens to be up. Even then, it's more likely it just turns into a slugging opportunity.
BBQ I'd probably put in A-tier. It's good info, but in terms of info, it's often just on par with Bitter Murmur or just slightly above if the game's not going quickly.
In it's current state, No Way out should be C tier. Once it's reworked, it may very well belong in S.
Undying should be B-tier. The truth is that if your RNG on totems is bad, it's going as well, and you might as well have brought another hex perk like Haunted or Retribution. Undying is only truly great with Devour.
NOED and sloppy should be B-tier. NOED shouldn't be that impactful on survivors that aren't greedy. It only really has insane potential with endgame builds. Sloppy is good for tempting survivors to stay injured, which is useful on killers that have stealth or anti-loop while dealing damage with M1. Either that, or it acts as minor slowdown. Outside of that, it's not that great.
Thrill belongs in C or arguably D. It doesn't do a whole lot.
Deerstalker could potentially belong in B. Keeping track of slugs if you're engaging in that sort of playstyle could be useful. For instance, if you know where the slug was, and they were picked up, you know where you can pressure 2 survivors. It does mean you must commit to hard slugging though.
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I'd put Tinkerer in S tier. It's only OP on particular killers because of how reliant it is on mobility, and is also only OP with the right perks, like Ruin or PGTW.
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Think i might be the only one who sometimes likes using dying light on my plague with thana haha.
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I see Tinkerer on the top tier and I am already done reading sry, I cant take that sirously xD
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Guess it’s your loss not to use such a strong perk
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You spread on gens. Done.
There is absolutely nothing a killer can do against 3 Tinkerer procs at the same time. He can get one of you, if he is lucky.
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Damn you are right
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I mean agree it is strong but its definatly not op or the top perk, it can be very easily countered, maybe you never really played against decent survivors who do that but only cuz you never meet them doesnt make this perk godly you know.
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Omg great advice, I’ll just tell my solo queue teammates to do that…
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Yeah I am
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Not every single solo queue teammate is terrible. I've seen solo players spreading on gens before, especially in the past.
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Little iffy on Tinkerer while it is devastating on say Billy or Blight best mobility killers in the game. With perks. It needs other perks for true devastation one of them gone quite quickly. As well, it’s meh on 4.6 killers and garbage on 4.4 killers.
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Well, I suppose this aspect of Tinkerer has never changed. It never was a perk which every killer could make use of.
Its original effect with add-ons was very powerful on Billy and Huntress, yet mediocre on everyone else. If I am not mistaken, literally none of Old Freddy's add-ons were affected by it.
It is interesting how some things do not change.
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Coulrophobia is an awesome perk, I use it pretty frequently. They say it's only good on doc, but combine it with Sloppy + Distressing on almost any killer and you'll find it to be an excellent slowdown build.
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The sad thing about half of the bad perks is that they could be good if they didn't have tacked-on limitations (IE every Deathslinger perk, Blood-Favour, ToT)
BHVR really hates the idea of simple perks being left alone
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Let’s hear about this magical counter to stop tinkerer from activating, I’d love to hear this
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It doesn’t matter ultimately, the blight mains have ruined the perk.
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Tbh I am too lazy, look up a guide, I am not beeing rude just abit lazy.
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There isn’t a guide because there is no counter to tinkerer lol
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